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New World Order 10-13-2015 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 11798993)
I am sure it didn't help. That really doesn't change the fact that KC held the leads at the very end of those games, and the defense couldn't maintain the leads. There is simply no way around that.


If the offense puts up 14 points vs denver (while taking care of the ball) and 12 against Chicago we are 3-2.

The Franchise 10-13-2015 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 11798993)
I am sure it didn't help. That really doesn't change the fact that KC held the leads at the very end of those games, and the defense couldn't maintain the leads. There is simply no way around that.

Yeah...it has nothing to do with a QB who can't ****ing put points on the board because he routinely misses throws and shits down his leg when he has time.

We could be leading 6-3 and you would blame the defense if they gave up the winning TD.

Baby Lee 10-13-2015 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11798948)
The Bears had the ball for over 33 minutes in that game. The Bears loss is entirely on Smith and his inability to throw the ball accurately and keep this defense off the field. How many passes did he completely ****ing miss on? How many 3rd down conversions did he **** up because he couldn't throw an accurate ball when he had a perfectly acceptable pocket around him? You could swap defenses with the Broncos unit and this team would be right where it's at because defenses get ****ing tired when they have to continually go up against an offense with no ****ing rest.

Don't oversell it. Alex had a bad game, but there were still at least 5 perfect 3rd down throws for first down that were flat out dropped, and Maclin's bobble on the last play in FG range was Bowe-esque.

I can understand wanting a better QB. But this fanbase seems insistent of somehow getting a QB so good the rest of the team doesn't even have to show up, nor the fans, nor the coaches. Just throw super-QB out there and every game is a blowout, never in doubt, win.

Reerun_KC 10-13-2015 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 11799000)
If the offense puts up 14 points vs denver (while taking care of the ball) and 12 against Chicago we are 3-2.

And that falls squarely on the shoulders of Reid and Smith...

Mother****erJones 10-13-2015 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 11799010)
Don't oversell it. Alex had a bad game, but there were still at least 5 perfect 3rd down throws for first down that were flat out dropped, and Maclin's bobble on the last play in FG range was Bowe-esque.

FG range? That catch would've made it like a 60 yard FG instead of 66 lol.

Discuss Thrower 10-13-2015 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11798974)
This team needs to dump worthless players and start ****ing over.....AGAIN.

As it is right now....we've got $35 million in cap room next season.

CUT:

Alex Smith (June 1st)
Josh Mauga
Paul Fainaka
Marcus Cooper

RETIRE:
Tamba Hali
Derrick Johnson

RE-SIGN:

Sean Smith
Eric Berry
Jaye Howard

Probably time for KC to give up the 3-4 too...

jonzie04 10-13-2015 10:14 AM

If we draft a 1st round QB next year, I have to wonder if it wouldn't be better to just have a fire sale right now. By the time that QB can develop into a good QB (if he ever does) most of our core guys now will be pushing 30 years old. That being said though that's very risky for a GM to do.

The Franchise 10-13-2015 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11799030)
Probably time for KC to give up the 3-4 too...

What do you do with Houston? Put his hand in the dirt? SLB?

I think you stick with the 3-4. You re-sign Howard and put him at NT. Poe is moved to DE opposite Bailey. Ford and Houston are your OLBs. Wilson is one ILB and hopefully they found a gem in March.

RealSNR 10-13-2015 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 11798972)
You're just a lazy fan who wants nothing more than for the Chiefs to have ONE problem to fix.

For ****'s sake. You can't be this stupid.

The Chiefs have MANY problems to fix.

Close to the top of that list in terms of priority is the QB.

QB has to get fixed REGARDLESS of how many other ****ing problems there are.

Discuss Thrower 10-13-2015 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11799038)
What do you do with Houston? Put his hand in the dirt? SLB?

I think you stick with the 3-4. You re-sign Howard and put him at NT. Poe is moved to DE opposite Bailey. Ford and Houston are your OLBs. Wilson is one ILB and hopefully they found a gem in March.

I just think the 3-4 is too hard to staff with any sort of depth. There's only one OLB capable of rushing the passer in Houston when you need three. None of the ILBs are worth a snot either.

Chiefnj2 10-13-2015 10:22 AM

KC's 4th Quarter Offense.


Kansas City Chiefs at 13:04
1-10-KC 26
(13:04) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass short left to 35-C.West to KC 31 for 5 yards (49-S.Acho).

2-5-KC 31
(12:26) 11-A.Smith sacked at KC 30 for -1 yards (99-L.Houston).

3-6-KC 30
(11:41) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass incomplete short right to 87-T.Kelce (59-C.Jones).

4-6-KC 30
(11:36) 2-D.Colquitt punts 45 yards to CHI 25, Center-41-J.Winchester. 80-M.Mariani to CHI 38 for 13 yards (30-J.Fleming).



Kansas City Chiefs at 09:25
1-10-KC 44
(9:25) (Shotgun) 34-K.Davis up the middle to KC 48 for 4 yards (90-J.Ratliff).

2-6-KC 48
(8:45) 34-K.Davis left tackle to KC 46 for -2 yards (52-L.Reynolds).

3-8-KC 46
(8:04) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass incomplete short right to 13-D.Thomas.

4-8-KC 46
(7:58) 2-D.Colquitt punts 42 yards to CHI 12, Center-41-J.Winchester, fair catch by 80-M.Mariani.


Kansas City Chiefs at 03:05
9-R.Gould kicks 65 yards from CHI 35 to end zone, Touchback.
1-10-KC 20
(3:05) 35-C.West right guard to KC 22 for 2 yards (59-C.Jones).

Timeout #2 by CHI at 03:01.
2-8-KC 22
(3:01) 35-C.West left guard to KC 24 for 2 yards (49-S.Acho).

Timeout #1 by KC at 02:15.
3-6-KC 24
(2:15) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass incomplete short right to 19-J.Maclin (21-T.Porter).

4-6-KC 24
(2:11) 2-D.Colquitt punts 43 yards to CHI 33, Center-41-J.Winchester, fair catch by 80-M.Mariani.


Kansas City Chiefs at 00:18
9-R.Gould kicks 70 yards from CHI 35 to KC -5. 13-D.Thomas ran ob at KC 14 for 19 yards. PENALTY on CHI-52-L.Reynolds, Face Mask (15 Yards), 15 yards, enforced at KC 14.
1-10-KC 29
(:11) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass deep middle to 19-J.Maclin to CHI 48 for 23 yards (21-T.Porter).

Timeout #2 by KC at 00:06.
1-10-CHI 48
(:06) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass short right to 19-J.Maclin ran ob at CHI 39 for 9 yards. The Replay Official reviewed the pass completion ruling, and the play was REVERSED. (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass incomplete short right to 19-J.Maclin.

Timeout #3 by CHI at 00:02.
2-10-CHI 48
(:02) 5-C.Santos 66 yard field goal is No Good, Short, Center-41-J.Winchester, Holder-2-D.Colquitt.

Baby Lee 10-13-2015 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 11799050)
For ****'s sake. You can't be this stupid.

The Chiefs have MANY problems to fix.

Close to the top of that list in terms of priority is the QB.

QB has to get fixed REGARDLESS of how many other ****ing problems there are.

You're severely misreading your supposed allies.

There's a shitload of difference between 'a lot of things need to be fixed, and the QB is one of them' and 'nothing else matters if Alex is QB'

TEX 10-13-2015 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 11798987)
Alex could do what Peyton's doing this year with Denver and they'd be just a good.

Belichick could be coaching this team with Alex on it, and they'd be in SB contention.

Alex isn't be the best or worst QB, but he's far from the organization's biggest problem.

I agree - even with point # 3 to a point. Or rather I agreed with point # 3 more last season. However, its clear that Smith has regressed in the situation he's in now and can't be fixed. So, he now becomes a major problem (maybe not the biggest one) - perhaps the easiest major one to resolve, and it needs to be done before moving forward. Hope the "brain trust" has learned something and drafts a young QB EARLY, assembles a real NFL OL, and goes in a different defensive direction this off season.

vailpass 10-13-2015 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11798779)
I worry about Peters.

Are you also concerned with Dix?

TigeRRUppeRRcut 10-13-2015 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 11798737)
We're going to London so other teams can come to Kansas City and play for a championship. Get with the program.

The sad, sad truth.


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