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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 11863048)

Lot of similar players to Gordon in that corner outfielder market. That will drive price down.

Down by 40%?

Infante's contract screws so many potential things this offseason. The question is: Is David Glass willing to go negative to try to compete for a title again next year and bridge the gap to the new TV contract?

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11863049)

Down by 40%?

Heyward and Upton will get major bucks. Cespedes the next and Gordon behind that.

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11863046)

Hamas brought it up in another thread and i'd never really correlated the two, but do you think Gordon takes a deal that much less than what Werth took?

It's too early to tell, really. I think he would take 80-85 percent of his best deal to stay in KC.

I've seen anything from 4/60 to 5/100 floated for him. If the market stays in that range, I think KC will make him an offer strong enough to keep him in KC.

Not sure the Werth deal will be on the table for him, though it wouldn't surprise me if it was (teams being smarter about recognizing Gordon's value even though he never has hit 30 HR in a season, like Werth had a few times when he signed the Nats deal).

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11863005)

He's also a massive outlier post-PEDs.

Totally agree. I realize that's an extreme example. I don't know if Gordon would reach those offensive WAR numbers either.

But, Gordon keeps himself in amazing shape. He came back from a severe groin pull quickly. He has the best work ethic on the team too. He's relentless. And as Duncan said he's a smart player too.

I'm curious to see what they do with him. It's not the smartest long term move, but I think him leaving would be a bigger PR hit than many of the other guys. As long as they put a winning team out there that won't matter though.

When can they renegotiate their (horrible) TV deal?

mlb.com reporting Zack Greinke has opted out and will become a free agent. No link yet.

Here's another question that's important:

How high does the payroll go? Glass allowed Moore to push it higher last year and this year than we anticipated.

I'd still be a little shocked to see it pushed into the $150 range, but considering the extra million in attendance (which can be really conservatively estimated at an extra $75 million in revenue, maybe as high as $100 million, plus all the merchandise revenue), it would make some sense.

Glass seemed pretty happy hoisting that trophy. If he can afford it, I think the payroll goes pretty high.

You've got two more seasons to limp through the current TV deal before you have an idea what's going to be in place for 2019 and beyond (and I'm just guessing they rework 2018 when they re-negotiate the deal), and then that's a significant bump, too.

If salary is kept at the status quo, I think KC is left signing one of Zobrist/Gordon, and then plumbing the secondary market for fill-in pieces in the rotation (not sure they could afford a Mike Leake-type at that point).

If Salary is increased into the $130 million range, I think you can find room to re-sign one of Gordon/Zobrist AND add a Mike Leake type. Or re-sign both Gordon and Zobrist.

Get into the $150 million range, and all of a sudden, you have the payroll room to add Gordon/Zobrist/+ a really good starting pitcher.

They have about $80 million currently committed in 2016 salaries, without including the arb guys (who should add about another $25 million).

Going to be fun to watch, I think.

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Originally Posted by Archie F. Swin (Post 11863330)

mlb.com reporting Zack Greinke has opted out and will become a free agent. No link yet.

I would laugh so hard if he wanted to come to the Royals after him saying he wanted to go to a "winner".

I believe DM said recently the goal in a small market is to bring up the following each year:

1. Position player
2. Starter
3. Reliever

He has done that most years. last year he didn't unless you include Orlando. He will have to do it this year tho. Guys like Eibner, Zimmer, Almonte almost have to come up because Madson + Young are surely gone and we are really maxing out payroll.

What happens to Vargas' contract? I read it's all covered by insurance if he doesn't pitch. That's a big game-changer (8m) in terms of payroll.

The team did go 26-16 or something like a 97-win pace without Gordon. Something to thjnk about if he really wants 90-100M.

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Originally Posted by Three7s (Post 11863354)

I would laugh so hard if he wanted to come to the Royals after him saying he wanted to go to a "winner".

I'd take him with open arms provided Glass will cough up the coin needed. Won't happen, but goddamn it'd be nice.

The Royals have declined their mutual options with Guthrie and Rios. Both are now free agents.

Rios will be paid a $1.5MM buyout, and Guthrie will get $3.2MM. This money must be paid by the Royals regardless of who they sign with.

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 11863384)

Good. Dyson should take his spot in the rotation. We have Gore for all of our speed needs

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 11863146)

When can they renegotiate their (horrible) TV deal?

After 2019, unless FOX decides to let us renegotiate earlier.

They may decide to talk about an extension to keep the Royals from testing the open market, but that won't be until after next season at the earliest, and maybe not until after 2017. Right now we're still 4 years out, we'll need to use our playoff and record-breaking attendance money to bridge the gap.