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alnorth 11-04-2015 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 11863460)
And, not sure what I'm missing, but why couldn't both teams playing in Europe be playing 'road games'?

It is not mathematically possible to avoid taking a home game away from someone when a game is played overseas.

alnorth 11-04-2015 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Valiant (Post 11863940)
People just need start putting their wallet where their mouth is and quit spending money.

actually all the fans of each club needs to.

quit going to games and buying gear. Cities also need to tell them to get bent when they want new stadiums.

especially when you have franchises like the chiefs. An owner who likes money over championships.


personally i would love to see a new league take them on. Start out with 8 to 10 teams and a minor league system.

What is the weather like in fantasyland? Is it near the ocean?

KCTitus 11-04-2015 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Valiant (Post 11863940)
People just need start putting their wallet where their mouth is and quit spending money.

actually all the fans of each club needs to.

quit going to games and buying gear. Cities also need to tell them to get bent when they want new stadiums.

especially when you have franchises like the chiefs. An owner who likes money over championships.


personally i would love to see a new league take them on. Start out with 8 to 10 teams and a minor league system.

You're missing one big piece of the revenue puzzle...the TV contracts. If you want to try to 'boycott' every NFL sponsor, good luck.

ChiliConCarnage 11-04-2015 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 11863548)
The Patriots have never given up a home game to play in London.

and it wouldn't make much sense for it to happen. Clark and every other owner gets more $ from Patriots tickets sold than from tickets sold at some small market that's charging half as much per non-premium ticket.

Mile High Mania 11-04-2015 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 11863943)
It is not mathematically possible to avoid taking a home game away from someone when a game is played overseas.

That's that part where I get lost...

I realize that divisional games wouldn't go over, then you have the games vs the set division based on order of finish, those shouldn't go over and you have what 2 games per team that are really just there, right.

So, with those 2 games per team, there's got to be something that can be done to make what we send over more interesting.

Maybe that's a way to drive "sell outs or ticket sales". If you're the Jags or a club like that and your not selling out home games, guess what - we ship 1 off every other year.

There's no way one of the big teams would just say yes to shipping a home game and why would they do it?

Mr. Flopnuts 11-04-2015 03:32 PM

This has been mentioned before, and maybe even in this very thread, but it is worth repeating infinitely. At some point, cities are going to push back against this. When you lobby, and demand public tax dollars to fund stadiums for a tax exempt league all in the name of job creation, and stimulating local economies, you better be careful how many of those limited events you take away from the very people who fund your stadium, then turn around and pay for parking, tickets, concessions, and merchandise. I'd like to see cities take a hard line stand and demand x amount of dollars back from those funded stadiums for every game lost to this gigantic expansion effort. ****ing douchebags...

Mile High Mania 11-04-2015 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 11864087)
This has been mentioned before, and maybe even in this very thread, but it is worth repeating infinitely. At some point, cities are going to push back against this. When you lobby, and demand public tax dollars to fund stadiums for a tax exempt league all in the name of job creation, and stimulating local economies, you better be careful how many of those limited events you take away from the very people who fund your stadium, then turn around and pay for parking, tickets, concessions, and merchandise. I'd like to see cities take a hard line stand and demand x amount of dollars back from those funded stadiums for every game lost to this gigantic expansion effort. ****ing douchebags...

That's why I'm thinking this needs to be positioned as an incentive for fans to buy tickets... not sure how you would do it without making it look clumsy or come off as a "buy tickets or else", but seriously... they have to figure out a way to make the games worth a damn if they're going to do this more.

I just don't know what the end game is, having a team in London? Why? I don't get the point.

What have the ticket sales been like game over game the last few years? Are they buying tickets because it's a rarity or is there actually a burning desire to see more games?

RealSNR 11-04-2015 04:01 PM

I don't have a problem giving up away games to go to London. Do it all you want

wazu 11-04-2015 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 11864087)
This has been mentioned before, and maybe even in this very thread, but it is worth repeating infinitely. At some point, cities are going to push back against this. When you lobby, and demand public tax dollars to fund stadiums for a tax exempt league all in the name of job creation, and stimulating local economies, you better be careful how many of those limited events you take away from the very people who fund your stadium, then turn around and pay for parking, tickets, concessions, and merchandise. I'd like to see cities take a hard line stand and demand x amount of dollars back from those funded stadiums for every game lost to this gigantic expansion effort. ****ing douchebags...

I would argue there is a huge benefit to having your city name promoted internationally. Giving up a home game every other year or so is no big deal.

Toby Waller 11-04-2015 04:07 PM

the wealthy person did what the wealthy person wanted to do.
Tough tooty on you

TLO 11-04-2015 04:11 PM

As long as the Royals don't have to give up any games, I don't give a shit.

alnorth 11-04-2015 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 11864087)
This has been mentioned before, and maybe even in this very thread, but it is worth repeating infinitely. At some point, cities are going to push back against this. When you lobby, and demand public tax dollars to fund stadiums for a tax exempt league all in the name of job creation, and stimulating local economies, you better be careful how many of those limited events you take away from the very people who fund your stadium, then turn around and pay for parking, tickets, concessions, and merchandise. I'd like to see cities take a hard line stand and demand x amount of dollars back from those funded stadiums for every game lost to this gigantic expansion effort. ****ing douchebags...

I strongly disagree with this. The cities are not going to do a damned thing, stadiums will continue to be built and renovated, and even if we get to the point where EVERY team plays a game overseas and EVERY team loses a home game once every two years, fans will adjust and get used to it.

alnorth 11-04-2015 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 11864074)
That's that part where I get lost...

I realize that divisional games wouldn't go over, then you have the games vs the set division based on order of finish, those shouldn't go over and you have what 2 games per team that are really just there, right.

So, with those 2 games per team, there's got to be something that can be done to make what we send over more interesting.

Maybe that's a way to drive "sell outs or ticket sales". If you're the Jags or a club like that and your not selling out home games, guess what - we ship 1 off every other year.

There's no way one of the big teams would just say yes to shipping a home game and why would they do it?

Not sure, I was just answering your question on why we couldn't just have it be a road game for both teams. That is not possible.

alnorth 11-04-2015 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 11864095)
What have the ticket sales been like game over game the last few years? Are they buying tickets because it's a rarity or is there actually a burning desire to see more games?

Tickets sales have been terrific for every game, even when its between two shitty teams. I do not believe London can support a local team, but I do think there's interest in the NFL as an occasional novelty a few times a year with many different teams barnstorming through. The international series is being expanded because its been very successful.

007 11-04-2015 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Otter (Post 11863675)
Were season ticket prices at least 15% (3% for inconvenience) lower than the previous year? If not, I'd be figuring out a way to give the Hunts a big old middle finger.

They charged STH for 9 home games but raised the prices enough that you still paid more than last year.


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