Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12712244)

Yeah, I've messed with several mock sites and MANY of them have every damn QB on the board gone by 12.

If Mahomes is gone by 12, we simply don't have the ammunition to get up that high. We can start knocking on doors around 16 but getting up higher than that is talking about a 1st this year, a 1st next year, a 2nd this year and maybe even a 2nd next year. We're gutting the top half of 2 drafts to take a flyer on a guy that would've been the 5th best prospect in next year's draft class.

And I hate hate HATE that rationale - it seems that it's always 'next year's class is better' until that year gets there and suddenly it isn't anymore. But I don't think you can justify that kind of draft capital.

If we could include Smith or Foles to ease the sting and perhaps provide value to a QB needy team that doesn't love what they see in this year's prospects, that would make it tenable. But I just don't know that we can pull it off otherwise.

And that. Would. Suck.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12711959)

Pundits have been getting Dorsey wrong since he got here. They all act like he's going to reach for need.

They were doing it with WR in the Peters draft when they were sure he was going to take Cameron Ervin or Jaelen Strong. In the Ford draft they had us on Bitonio and Kouandijo. Last year it was Boyd or Alexander.

Dorsey would obviously prefer it when need meets BPA, but he's shown repeatedly that if he doesn't see a 'value' at a position when he picks in the first day or two, he's just not going to go with that position. He's very much a BPA general manager. And while that includes fit/need, those aren't his overriding concerns.

McMillan will not be the pick in the 1st round. He just won't do it. McMillan isn't a 1st round talent and it would be a massive departure from Dorsey to reach for him just because of his position. I could see Davis as the pick but there's also a chance he doesn't last that long. Personally, I still see him as being taken about 15 picks too early there but others almost certainly disagree and Dorsey could be among them.

He will not reach for need.

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 12712450)

At this point I think that Foster and Cunningham are the only ILB prospects that go round 1.

Originally Posted by gonefishin53 (Post 12713197)

Using Walter's 1/26/17 mock, I think O.J. Howard, TE Alabama, is the best value available for the Chief's pick. AR loves multiple TE sets and AS11 likes to target his TEs. I believe it would make the Chief's offense more consistently effective if AR and AS11 had 2 really good TEs. I don't think there is any question that the Chief's offense needs to be more consistently effective.

Originally Posted by gonefishin53 (Post 12713197)

Using Walter's 1/26/17 mock, I think O.J. Howard, TE Alabama, is the best value available for the Chief's pick. AR loves multiple TE sets and AS11 likes to target his TEs. I believe it would make the Chief's offense more consistently effective if AR and AS11 had 2 really good TEs. I don't think there is any question that the Chief's offense needs to be more consistently effective.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12712515)

If all the QB's are gone in the first round, I think you look at the best pass rusher on the board.

Charles Harris, Caleb Brantley, Ryan Anderson, Montravious Adams, Jordan Willis, etc

If you can't find a QB, pass rush is he next important piece and we all know it was a problem last year.

Then you have to scout the field and see if Nathan Peterman, Jerod Evans, Davis Webb etc would even be worth taking in rd 2.

Originally Posted by Dagnabit (Post 12713122)

Sucks that this year's QB offerings are going to be inflated. Mahomes will be overvalued, and there's no way Dorsey is going to package a deal to reach for him. I wouldn't, and I want a QB more than anything else.
Chiefs are just damned when it comes to QB's.

Originally Posted by MephistophelesJanx (Post 12713634)

I'm guessing that Mahomes could very well fall to KC at #27. In fact, I could see either Mahomes or Deshaun Watson being available when KC picks.

I hope that if it comes down to either Mahomes or Watson... that we pick Mahomes.

Originally Posted by MephistophelesJanx (Post 12713634)

I'm guessing that Mahomes could very well fall to KC at #27. In fact, I could see either Mahomes or Deshaun Watson being available when KC picks.

I hope that if it comes down to either Mahomes or Watson... that we pick Mahomes.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12714257)

There is absolutely no way Watson is available at #27 and with as much buzz as Mahomes has been receiving lately, it's not even assured that he'll be there at #27.

Watson will be off the charts at the Combines. If Mahomes throws well and checks out, he'll rise as well.

Originally Posted by MephistophelesJanx (Post 12714768)

I don't disagree. The lowest I've seen Watson go in a mock draft was 25. Would just take one team passing on him (based on that one draft... I know) for him to be available. That said... I doubt he will be there.

I'm still crossing my fingers for Mahomes at 27 or a small trade up to go get him.