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Shields68

11-07-2017 05:23 PM

On the positive side our schedule to date has been pretty tough. Think all of the non conference teams were .500 or better except for Houston. Houston was very dangerous when we played them. Ne, Phil and Pitt are probably right at the top to win the whole thing.

The second half the non conference Buffalo, Miami, Jets and Giants really should not put a lot of fear into a team. Having the Chargers and Raiders at home should make a touchdown favorite in those two games and the Broncos will not be playing for anything the last game of the season. So yeah he should hopefully pick it up, if not probably should go with West and look to throw every down come playoff time.

jspchief

11-07-2017 05:38 PM

And on one of those runs he was one broken tackle away from going a long way.

Hunt isn't Charles. 13 carries per game isn't going to allow him to make an impact. Like bad clock management, not committing to the run is one of Andy's shortcomings.

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ToxSocks

11-07-2017 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 13205517)

Hunt isn't Charles. 13 carries per game isn't going to allow him to make an impact. Like bad clock management, not committing to the run is one of Andy's shortcomings.

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Remember the, "Are we running Hunt too much" thread from a few weeks ago?

Fans' opinions change so much from week to week. Fickle, i believe, is the word most often used.

PAChiefsGuy

11-07-2017 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 13205523)

Remember the, "Are we running Hunt too much" thread from a few weeks ago?

Fans' opinions change so much from week to week. Fickle, i believe, is the word most often used.

Yep. Fans love to use hindsight... You never heard any complaints about Sutton after that Steelers playoff loss. It was all Alex Smith's fault. The defense/Sutton was great all season and carried the team was all I heard before the season started this year. Now the defense sucks and Sutton needs to be fired halfway into the season...

Got to love it.

jspchief

11-07-2017 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 13205523)

Remember the, "Are we running Hunt too much" thread from a few weeks ago?

Fans' opinions change so much from week to week. Fickle, i believe, is the word most often used.

I don't remember that thread. But "fans" aren't a single hive mind. Unless you're seeing people specifically contradicting themselves, I'm not sure it's relevant.p

My personal opinion is that Hunt's running style may expose him to more injury possibilities. I still believe a balanced offense is important and 20+ rushes should be standard

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cooper barrett

11-07-2017 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 13201584)

There has never been any back nor team in league history that broke off 60-80 yard runs/receptions every game. You overrated him based on an extremely small sample size.

I have been saying this about Alex11 first 3 days set his averages up, now their tanking back to something better than Alex 16 , 15, 14, 13. The difference is we only allowed 17PPG back then.

He's still a good player, but he's not going to be the best back in the league, ever. He'll be a perfectly reasonable starter though.

Don't underestimate him with an OL and Smith throwing 350-400Yds; Hunt would be dangerous to any team.

jspchief

11-07-2017 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 13205524)

Bullshit.

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ARROW2

11-07-2017 05:53 PM

Must throw to open up the running when the line is stacked. thought that was common knowledge but apparently not on CP. Also thought that a decline of 10 ppg from the offense and only an increase of 2 ppg from the defense in the last 4 games would open some eyes. I guess not. the offense is hot gahbage right now because of ALEXIS!

cooper barrett

11-07-2017 06:00 PM

we are missing a bad ass "make tunnels out of cracks of daylight" running back. You know we needed to get A. Peterson instead of AZ. Someone like him would break things open.

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 13204203)

It is a lack of "road grading ability" when needed regardless of who we have in there. We do not have physical o-linemen who can throw d-lines aside when needed like Dallas' o-line did us especially at the end of the game.

We haven't had a "mauling o-line" since 05. The beauty of our o-lines in the early to mid 90's and from 02-05 was that regardless of defenses stacking the box against us we still ran at will successfully while chewing up the clock to win. We can't do that now.

Once KH's talent was legitimized after the first few games, very physical talented defenses like PITT,DENVER and DALLAS keyed in on KH knowing they would not have to stack the box because our o-line cannot "smash mouth run block" at will. Thus can afford to set back in zone and throw us around like a rag doll keying on KH. However, if we had "road grading capability" in our o-line then it would force these talented defenses to stack the box and play more man to man that would play into our offense's hands.

And please spare me the argument of finesse vs brute strength because you can have both if you build it that way because we had that from 02-05, very athletic but very physical as well.

Shields68

11-07-2017 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 13205517)

Just not going to get the carries if you go 3 and out most of the time and the carries are getting you into long yardage.

Romo was probably right the Cowboys in the first half out schemed the Chiefs by making it look like the Chiefs needed to run it to a specific area and then slanting the line hard to that area.

Sandy Vagina

11-07-2017 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 13205479)

Hunts running into two walls right now

1) the heavily used rookie endurance wall

2) the literal wall of defenders our line cant do shit about

If you had to put a % on it.. how much do you think is the OL.. and how much is it that defenses are starting to predict and diagnose our plays pre-snap?

Anyone have thoughts on that?

Chiefshrink

11-07-2017 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 13205472)

O-line was pass protecting pretty damn well against Dallas. Certainly had clean pockets on several occasions. NFL clean, at least.

Schwartz got owned all day by Lawrence and by the end of the game Schwartz actually false started because you could see he was intimidated. Just saying.

Easy 6

11-07-2017 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Vagina (Post 13205567)

If you had to put a % on it.. how much do you think is the OL.. and how much is it that defenses are starting to predict and diagnose our plays pre-snap?

Anyone have thoughts on that?

Trying to put a percentage on it is pointless, but the offense as a whole has clearly regressed

Musical chairs O line finally caught up to us, even with rusty LDT back

Smith starting to manager up again because of that, reverting back to his comfortable default mode

Reids propensity for becoming inexplicably predictable at the worst times, after extended fits of sheer genius is well documented

Its on every member of that staff and team

Chiefshrink

11-07-2017 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 13205619)

You really saw this big time in the Denver game, where as soon as the TH HB pass failed, Andy's butt puckered up i.e. to the play calling from that point on.

srvy	11-08-2017 11:47 AM

I dont take SI anymore did he make a cover or anything.

Lot of things injuries at o line and wideout teams have decided to stop the run first and play tight coverage make Alex beat you over the top.

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