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OnTheWarpath15 11-20-2017 05:47 PM

The QB can't beat Cover 2, a defense that little league and High School teams use as a base because of its simplicity.

Let that sink in.

pugsnotdrugs19 11-20-2017 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 13229732)
The QB can't beat Cover 2, a defense that little league and High School teams use as a base because of its simplicity.

Let that sink in.

Cover 2 is literally daring an offense to go deep. As most probably know, it's designed to take away all underneath lanes.

Kelce is indirectly pointing right at the PumpCuck.

Easy 6 11-20-2017 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13229750)
Cover 2 is literally daring an offense to go deep. As most probably know, it's designed to take away all underneath lanes.

Its not all about underneath lanes

BossChief 11-20-2017 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13229750)
Cover 2 is literally daring an offense to go deep. As most probably know, it's designed to take away all underneath lanes.

Kelce is indirectly pointing right at the PumpCuck.

Not really. The cover 2 is designed to prevent the deep pass by keeping 2 deep safeties. It’s weakness is the midrange throws Alex has been struggling at.

pugsnotdrugs19 11-20-2017 06:42 PM

Guys, cover 2 is meant to stop underneath throws. It leaves the two safeties alone up top to cover halves of the field. Cover 2 means it's a 2-deep shell. Just as cover 3 is 3-deep, leaving one safety and the two corners to cover thirds of the deep field. And cover 4 is 4-deep, leaving two safeties and both corners to cover quarters of the deep field.

I'm not meaning to sound like a smart ass, but it's a lot harder to cover deep parts of the field with 2 high players than it is with 3 or 4.

Hammock Parties 11-20-2017 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13229934)
Guys, cover 2 is meant to stop underneath throws. It leaves the two safeties alone up top to cover halves of the field. Cover 2 means it's a 2-deep shell. Just as cover 3 is 3-deep, leaving one safety and the two corners to cover thirds of the deep field. And cover 4 is 4-deep, leaving two safeties and both corners to cover quarters of the deep field.

I'm not meaning to sound like a smart ass, but it's a lot harder to cover deep parts of the field with 2 high players than it is with 3 or 4.

I'm guessing teams are playing Cover 2 and Cover 4 in equal amounts, and disguising the corners in Cover 2 so it looks like they are playing Cover 4 at the snap.

Smith doesn't know whether to get ready to load up (since he predetermines deep throws so much) or look for the underneath route.

His little robot QB brain is just sparking and misfiring all over the place.

TribalElder 11-20-2017 06:50 PM

but the Gigabits

OnTheWarpath15 11-20-2017 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 13229966)
but the Gigabits

LMAO

Reerun_KC 11-20-2017 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 13229966)
but the Gigabits



And cloud storage.

The Franchise 11-20-2017 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 13229966)
but the Gigabits

The gigabits that runs in the middle of the field to get tackled with 8 seconds left and only one timeout. Those gigabits?

OnTheWarpath15 11-20-2017 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13229984)
The gigabits that runs in the middle of the field to get tackled with 8 seconds left and only one timeout. Those gigabits?

Holy ****, that's almost as bad as throwing OOB on the last play of the game - or snapping the ball with 10-15 seconds left in a playoff game where you're shitting the bed and keep putting the defense on the field in the 2nd half.

There's more, but **** it.

OnTheWarpath15 11-20-2017 06:58 PM

Alex Smith:

http://media.giphy.com/media/hvPwjjB7cOyXu/giphy.gif

Best22 11-20-2017 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 13229917)
Not really. The cover 2 is designed to prevent the deep pass by keeping 2 deep safeties. It’s weakness is the midrange throws Alex has been struggling at.

Cover 2 weakness is the outside "gap" between corner and safety, and the deep middle seams. The first requires a strong arm, the second requires the attitude of "I wanna destroy this defense." Smith has neither. But Mahomes...

pugsnotdrugs19 11-20-2017 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 13230012)
Cover 2 weakness is the outside "gap" between corner and safety, and the dep middle seams. The first requires a strong arm, the second requires the attitude of "I wanna destroy this defense." Smith hasn't neither. But Mahomes...

Basically this.

Does anyone else remember the play against Seattle during the preseason where Mahomes stuck one on the sideline to Jehu Chesson about 20-25 yards down field? That was cover 2. And that was an arm that can beat it with ease.

Best22 11-20-2017 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 13229732)
The QB can't beat Cover 2, a defense that little league and High School teams use as a base because of its simplicity.

Let that sink in.

To be fair, all the NFL base coverages are used at all levels. Cover 1, Cover 3, quarters, 2 man-under, and Cover 2. The NFL just has a lot more creativity with how they implement it.

Lots of high schools run a 4-3, but they aren't NFL level 4-3 defenses.


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