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HemiEd 01-16-2018 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by rico (Post 13364169)
Wonder how the presence of Berry would have changed things this season... man, that guy is a crucial piece.

I would say this is probably the point that Sutton brought up to Reid in order to keep his job.

If only I would have had Berry!

Baby Lee 01-16-2018 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by rico (Post 13364780)

Jesus the halflife on crippling insecurity is LONG

crayzkirk 01-16-2018 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 13364576)
Clay:

He dead.

You can stop killing him now.

It’s over.

For reals.

^^^^ This. Do we really need another Let's bash Alex Smith thread?

It's just a game, someone has to win and someone has to lose. Unfortunately, it's been the Chiefs that have been losing.

Move along, nothing to see here.

Coochie liquor 01-16-2018 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 13364825)
Lol at the Alex Smith haters. First it is 'team wins games not QBs' now it is 'QBs win and lose games by themselves.'

You guys contradict yourselves in your own arguments. Idiots.

It’s def a team sport. But within that team you have to have a qb who can lead you late in a tight game (most of the time). Not one who gets happy feet and runs into sacks, when he needs to be clutch. You need defense to win, but if you’re in the game with time running out.... down by only a few.... do you really want Alex Smith as your qb in that situation? How many times has he shown us he’s capable of overcoming that situation? Aside from Alex’s family that’s on here, I don’t think too many people thought we REALLY had a shot when it came down to that situation against Tenn.... at home.... in the playoffs... I had no doubt in my mind, once we got the ball back and had to drive down to win, it was over. Haven’t seen Alex prove he can be that guy with any consistency to think otherwise.

Edit And I know our defense would have got torched by Pitt the next week and we’d have been out then. Our defense wasn’t near championship level this season.

Baby Lee 01-16-2018 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 13364844)
It’s def a team sport. But within that team you have to have a qb who can lead you late in a tight game (most of the time). Not one who gets happy feet and runs into sacks, when he needs to be clutch. You need defense to win, but if you’re in the game with time running out.... down by only a few.... do you really want Alex Smith as your qb in that situation? How many times has he shown us he’s capable of overcoming that situation? Aside from Alex’s family that’s on here, I don’t think too many people thought we REALLY had a shot when it came down to that situation against Tenn.... at home.... in the playoffs... I had no doubt in my mind, once we got the ball back and had to drive down to win, it was over. Haven’t seen Alex prove he can be that guy with any consistency to think otherwise.

The thing is, most people aren't pretending that Alex a savior of inadequate teams.

But 'the TN situation' is something that ONLY happens to Chiefs teams. The Steelers kept coming back on the Jaguars because they're the Steelers and are loaded with offensive talent.

The Chiefs are not only the only team in the playoffs, but perhaps the only team in the LEAGUE that the Titans can come back from a 20 point deficit on, and that's because they can't run the ball and play defense when it's actually called for, even when they have the lead.

And the contingent that is obsessed with the QB position doesn't give a single shit about that 'part' of football. It's just a fluke, defense is luck, excitement over a QB will fix all of that, blah, blah, blah. They tune out completely unless the ball is flying through the air, which is the only 'part' of the sport they give a shit about.

Sure, there will always be situations where you are forced to rely on a desperate drive by the QB to come back from the verge of defeat, but just as much as Alex might not be that guy, the Chiefs are the only team for which that need arises from double-digit leads forfeited in the playoffs.

So now we have this mindset in the fanbase that actually fielding a quality team is 'too hard and complicated.' Better to field one good player and hope he's good enough to make an inferior team competitive.

Rasputin 01-16-2018 07:56 AM

At least games will be fun with Patrick Mahomes II and we have a greater chance of winning Championships each year he is at the helm because each year we can tweak the teams needs and make it a Super Bowl caliber team.


Our offense will put up points that the defense will get to defend and give the ball back to the offense to score more points.

Baby Lee 01-16-2018 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 13364859)
At least games will be fun with Patrick Mahomes II and we have a greater chance of winning Championships each year he is at the helm because each year we can tweak the teams needs and make it a Super Bowl caliber team.


Our offense will put up points that the defense will get to defend and give the ball back to the offense to score more points.

That's because you only define fun as throwing the ball into the air.

There are tons of sports involving throwing balls long distances and catching them at the other end.

Football can ALSO be fun when the people on the defense are actually skilled as well, and NO their spectacular plays are not flukes.

Best22 01-16-2018 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 13364860)
That's because you only define fun as throwing the ball into the air.

There are tons of sports involving throwing balls long distances and catching them at the other end.

Football can ALSO be fun when the people on the defense are actually skilled as well, and NO their spectacular plays are not flukes.

Yep. We blew an 18 point lead to a team that just lined up and ran the ball

Terrible

Rasputin 01-16-2018 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 13364860)
That's because you only define fun as throwing the ball into the air.

There are tons of sports involving throwing balls long distances and catching them at the other end.

Football can ALSO be fun when the people on the defense are actually skilled as well, and NO their spectacular plays are not flukes.


No that's not it. I define fun by winning in the post season and fun by being a dominant team on both sides of the ball and running the ball in the fourth quarter to cement the win. Now the problem again is Andy Reid stepping on the offense dicks if it comes to running the ball.


I like watching Hunt run the ball I think he is fun to watch. I think a balanced attack is the way to go. With Patrick Mahomes II teams have to respect the deep ball to Tyreek Hill and at the same time have to keep Hunt from running over them up the middle and breaking off huge gains. This team is going be fun to watch with Patrick Mahomes II at the helm.


Get past the learning curve and growing pains this year and I think we will be contenders for years to come but we need team growth on both sides of the ball and special teams contribute. We need to work over the refs obviously so maybe we can get some calls our way.

Reerun_KC 01-16-2018 08:42 AM

Welcome back Baby _Lee. We’ve missed your meltdowns after you disappeared when alex started tanking the season for us.

Rasputin 01-16-2018 08:46 AM

OP is right we need to revamp this defense so that's why trading Alex Smith this off season for draft picks we can use on defense, that's a great idea :thumb:

Sandy Vagina 01-16-2018 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 13364857)
The thing is, most people aren't pretending that Alex a savior of inadequate teams.

But 'the TN situation' is something that ONLY happens to Chiefs teams. The Steelers kept coming back on the Jaguars because they're the Steelers and are loaded with offensive talent.

The Chiefs are not only the only team in the playoffs, but perhaps the only team in the LEAGUE that the Titans can come back from a 20 point deficit on, and that's because they can't run the ball and play defense when it's actually called for, even when they have the lead.

And the contingent that is obsessed with the QB position doesn't give a single shit about that 'part' of football. It's just a fluke, defense is luck, excitement over a QB will fix all of that, blah, blah, blah. They tune out completely unless the ball is flying through the air, which is the only 'part' of the sport they give a shit about.

Sure, there will always be situations where you are forced to rely on a desperate drive by the QB to come back from the verge of defeat, but just as much as Alex might not be that guy, the Chiefs are the only team for which that need arises from double-digit leads forfeited in the playoffs.

So now we have this mindset in the fanbase that actually fielding a quality team is 'too hard and complicated.' Better to field one good player and hope he's good enough to make an inferior team competitive.

This post is awesome... especially the final sentiment, in which you worded far better than I have been. So reiteration!


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So now we have this mindset in the fanbase that actually fielding a quality team is 'too hard and complicated.' Better to field one good player and hope he's good enough to make an inferior team competitive.
:clap:

chiefzilla1501 01-16-2018 08:53 AM

If you're going to manage games or rely on a good defense, you better be able to close the door. The second half offensive performances in our 4 playoff losses have not only been bad, they were downright embarrassing to watch.

Baby Lee 01-16-2018 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Servant_KC (Post 13364897)
Welcome back Baby _Lee. We’ve missed your meltdowns after you disappeared when alex started tanking the season for us.

I didn't 'disappear' I left. I left because this place largely isn't an entertaining or enjoyable place to be any more.

The Chiefs are depressing enough in themselves. Arguing with people more invested in their board squabbles than the team is not productive and doesn't foster any of the remaining affection I have for the team.

You know it's true that people are more invested in fighting on CP than any interest in the team, or you wouldn't be so put out that I declined to participate.

But mostly I left for reasons completely unrelated to this QB petty squabble, that I won't get into because it's not worth the grief and recriminations.

Baby Lee 01-16-2018 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 13364908)
If you're going to manage games or rely on a good defense, you better be able to close the door. The second half offensive performances in our 4 playoff losses have not only been bad, they were downright embarrassing to watch.

And the lack of running, the playcalls and the defense were just fluky things that happened to happen.


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