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In58men 01-21-2019 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bricks (Post 14061934)
**** Dee Ford. Piece of shit cost us a superbowl appearance.

Eric Berry should have turned around.

-King- 01-21-2019 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14061938)
Aaron Donald is in a different scheme with Suh next to him....in this scheme Chris Jones is a huge reason the run D sucks.

And the Rams run defense sucks too. So...

Marcellus 01-21-2019 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 14061941)
And the Rams run defense sucks too. So...

You just made the case against Donald and Jones.

Only reason Rams are on the way to the SB is a terrible non call on an obvious PI, just like KC was one play from the SB. :shrug:

FringeNC 01-21-2019 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 14061802)
So the cost to franchise Ford is $16 million. Yeah **** that.

Isn't that also about Houston's number for next year?

O.city 01-21-2019 06:07 PM

You can get run stuffers easier. Problem is teams get you in situations where you can’t rush the passer

Having interior dl that ran rush the passer is super rare. I’d keep Jones over ford and try and put some better guys around jones

Mecca 01-21-2019 06:07 PM

Personally I think Chris Jones could play the run if the coaching staff would get in his ass about it.

O.city 01-21-2019 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14061938)
Aaron Donald is in a different scheme with Suh next to him....in this scheme Chris Jones is a huge reason the run D sucks.

How many snaps are the chiefs actually in a 34 set?

-King- 01-21-2019 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14061946)
You just made the case against Donald and Jones.

Only reason Rams are on the way to the SB is a terrible non call on an obvious PI, just like KC was one play from the SB. :shrug:

That's my point. If Chris Jones is a complementary player and expendable then Aaron Donald is too.

petegz28 01-21-2019 06:08 PM

Dude got a penalty that snatched defeat away from the jaws of victory. But the fact is, we aren't even playing in that game if it wasn't for Ford this season.

O.city 01-21-2019 06:10 PM

The current defensive coaching staff has made remarks about not emphasizing stopping the run

I think that’s a big part of the problem

Marcellus 01-21-2019 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 14061955)
That's my point. If Chris Jones is a complementary player and expendable then Aaron Donald is too.

I wouldn't say expendable, but I might say he isn't worth the $ he will demand.

It all depends on how the team is built. We have other pass rushers so do you need to pay a DL $20MM to rush the passer?

Rams don't have any real outside pass rushers so they can deal with it. You don't pay 2 OLB and a DL to do the same thing. We drafted Speaks to rush the passer, he is either Ford or Houstons replacement.

We have 2 guys who can rush the passer and not defend the run, and another guy who can do both, Houston. I say keep Ford and get another run stuffing DL.

BossChief 01-21-2019 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14061540)
Chris Jones is also a one trick pony, a legit coach would be in his ass about the way he defends the run.

Remember the way Derrick Johnson was treated when Haley was here...Jones needs some of that.

I’ve mentioned that before about both Jones and Ford.

They need someone to legit push them.

bricks 01-21-2019 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14061960)
The current defensive coaching staff has made remarks about not emphasizing stopping the run

I think that’s a big part of the problem

Its why they’ve lost the last 3 playoff games.

Steelers, Patriots rammed it down our throats and sustained long drives that dictated the tempo of the game in their favor and beat us. How the **** is this problem ongoing and not fixed throughout the years? Its such a ****ing shame.

bricks 01-21-2019 06:15 PM

When was the last time the Chiefs had a good run defense? 20, 25 years ago?

Marcellus 01-21-2019 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 14061966)
I’ve mentioned that before about both Jones and Ford.

They need someone to legit push them.

Where is Todd Haley when you need him.


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