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CoMoChief 03-13-2019 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by arrwheader (Post 14155373)
Tired of hearing this shit. We were in the AFCCG with a 31 ranked defense LOL. We improve to MEDIOCRE and we are still favorites.

Brows yada yada Raiders yada yada.

They don’t have Mahomes and they don’t have Reid.

People need to **** right off with this shit. What did you want them to do? Keep this shit hole D in tact? Have Berry and his spirit on the sidelines?
Not sure what this means...other than meaning the Chiefs will choke away their SB hopes in the postseason.

htismaqe 03-13-2019 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 14155351)
Yep. I was on board with releasing all the old guys on defense with the expectation that Veach would be aggressive in replacing them with better players. The fact that that hasn't happened is extremely disappointing.
Free agency officially started 3 hours ago. :facepalm:

arrwheader 03-13-2019 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 14155382)
Not sure what this means...other than meaning the Chiefs will choke away their SB hopes in the postseason.


Haha well that argument could be made. However, the linking of the two clearly is a big advantage.

htismaqe 03-13-2019 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by nychief (Post 14155339)
They were talking about this guy getting 13 million a year... and he is 4 months out of an ACL... I don't ****ing get it.
The projections for corners were high. Nelson got $4M per year less than was projected. Darby probably goes for 9-10M per.

Conversely, the projections for safeties were WAY low. It changes the approach pretty significantly.

ILChief 03-13-2019 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by arrwheader (Post 14155373)
Tired of hearing this shit. We were in the AFCCG with a 31 ranked defense LOL. We improve to MEDIOCRE and we are still favorites.

Browns yada yada Raiders yada yada.

They don’t have Mahomes and they don’t have Reid.

People need to **** right off with this shit. What did you want them to do? Keep this shit hole D in tact? Have Berry and his spirit on the sidelines?
I agree. Do people want us devoting 50-60 million cap space to two broken down guys and a one year wonder?

arrwheader 03-13-2019 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 14155390)
I agree. Do people want us devoting 50-60 million cap space to two broken down guys and a one year wonder?


Exactly. We scored 50 mother ****ing points in a game AND STILL ****ING LOST.

Really actually let that sink in. Think about that. Everyone of those assholes deserved to be shipped the **** out after that.

chiefzilla1501 03-13-2019 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 14155351)
Yep. I was on board with releasing all the old guys on defense with the expectation that Veach would be aggressive in replacing them with better players. The fact that that hasn't happened is extremely disappointing.
We've cut 3 good players (though it's hard to count Berry anymore because he doesn't see the field). In the process freeing up something like $38M. Chiefs have so far signed Matthieu, Quartey Jones, Damien Wilson to what I'm guessing is < $18M. I'd bet Darby puts us at about $30M so still $8M to spare.

We're going to add a lot of players on D. All young, and we won't be handcuffed to any of them.

YontsRBake 03-13-2019 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by arrwheader (Post 14155373)
Tired of hearing this shit. We were in the AFCCG with a 31 ranked defense LOL. We improve to MEDIOCRE and we are still favorites.

Browns yada yada Raiders yada yada.

They don’t have Mahomes and they don’t have Reid.

People need to **** right off with this shit. What did you want them to do? Keep this shit hole D in tact? Have Berry and his spirit on the sidelines?
Im fine with cutting Berry and Houston. Trading a guy coming off a 13 sack 8 FF year to end up spending close to the same money to sign Ronald Darby irks me beyond belief though, and I really don't understand how anyone else can have a different opinion.

Tanoh Kpass and Breeland Speaks are our staring DEs rn. There is nobody in this FA class or draft that is going to replace Ford and Houstons production in 2019, a must win year for us.

CasselGotPeedOn 03-13-2019 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 14155351)
Yep. I was on board with releasing all the old guys on defense with the expectation that Veach would be aggressive in replacing them with better players. The fact that that hasn't happened is extremely disappointing.
There's no way your parents weren't relatives.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-13-2019 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by YontsRBake (Post 14155425)
Im fine with cutting Berry and Houston. Trading a guy coming off a 13 sack 8 FF year to end up spending close to the same money to sign Ronald Darby irks me beyond belief though, and I really don't understand how anyone else can have a different opinion.

Tanoh Kpass and Breeland Speaks are our staring DEs rn. There is nobody in this FA class or draft that is going to replace Ford and Houstons production in 2019, a must win year for us.
They don’t have to replace their production. They have to upgrade the team production.

A big part of being a good NFL defense is having a unit that trusts each other to do their jobs and focuses on that individually. They also need to play with a certain fire and intensity. That’s what they’re working to build. Let’s see where they’re at with the roster come May.

arrwheader 03-13-2019 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by YontsRBake (Post 14155425)
Im fine with cutting Berry and Houston. Trading a guy coming off a 13 sack 8 FF year to end up spending close to the same money to sign Ronald Darby irks me beyond belief though, and I really don't understand how anyone else can have a different opinion.



Tanoh Kpass and Breeland Speaks are our staring DEs rn. There is nobody in this FA class or draft that is going to replace Ford and Houstons production in 2019, a must win year for us.


Ford was suspect, in a contract year and had one good year and the rest meh to worse. Houston just wasn’t worth the money. Also there must have been other things there the new staff doesn’t like.

Have faith. Let’s see what happens and talk about during the season. See how the draft goes and what other trades/ acquisitions we make before camp. I bet most that feel bad about this are feeling a lot better then.

htismaqe 03-13-2019 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by YontsRBake (Post 14155425)
Im fine with cutting Berry and Houston. Trading a guy coming off a 13 sack 8 FF year to end up spending close to the same money to sign Ronald Darby irks me beyond belief though, and I really don't understand how anyone else can have a different opinion.
Would you have traded him after 4 years and a paltry 17.5 sacks? Because that's where he was at before his magical season.

To think he can just repeat 2018 like snapping his fingers...well quite frankly, I really don't understand how anyone could believe that.

YontsRBake 03-13-2019 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14155435)
They don’t have to replace their production. They have to upgrade the team production.

A big part of being a good NFL defense is having a unit that trusts each other to do their jobs and focuses on that individually. They also need to play with a certain fire and intensity. That’s what they’re working to build. Let’s see where they’re at with the roster come May.
and it will no doubt improve with the change of Sutton to Spags alone. However, how can trading a top 10 pass rusher in the league then signing an injury prone shitty CB with close to the same money possibly make us better?

DenverChief 03-13-2019 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by YontsRBake (Post 14155425)
Trading a guy coming off a 13 sack 8 FF year to end up spending close to the same money to sign Ronald Darby irks me beyond belief though, and I really don't understand how anyone else can have a different opinion.
Two different positions, our weaknesses were in the secondary, not the pass rush....as mentioned by Andy, the speed of the passing game makes edge rushers almost obsolete. The pass rush of the future comes from the interior line (faster path to QB).

htismaqe 03-13-2019 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by YontsRBake (Post 14155449)
and it will no doubt improve with the change of Sutton to Spags alone. However, how can trading a top 10 pass rusher in the league then signing an injury prone shitty CB with close to the same money possibly make us better?
Ford is not a top 10 pass rusher. He had one great year, that's it. He's also injury prone.

As to your question, it really doesn't. Then again Darby isn't shitty, he's actually quite good. The question is whether or not he can stay healthy. If I were GM, I wouldn't sign him but that's just me.


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