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Mecca 07-12-2019 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 14344748)
He could have decided not to contest the charges while maintaining his innocence. He didn't do that. He admitted guilt.

If that is what you are going to hold to then I guess all those people that were wrongly sent to prison should shut the **** up huh?

You can sit there and say that fine, if you were in that spot you can't tell me you wouldn't have taken that deal.

rabblerouser 07-12-2019 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 14344716)
IIRC, didn't he sign a statement that only admitted guilt to putting her in a headlock as he was trying to remove her from the apartment?

Yeah, and he ran out of money, so he took a plea deal that actually got the charge expunged...so in reality, it's like it never actually happened.

So for anyone who doesn't understand what that means, it means that, according to the letter of the law, he never plead to shit.

Marcellus 07-12-2019 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 14344749)
Hill is not going to be punished for the 2014 incident. It’s over and done with and won’t come into play despite the continued assault on Hill from the media. So we are back to just the recent stuff, which really isn’t much, hence the reason they are bringing up the 2014 stuff again. They are trying to justify their overall bad reporting.

Very valid point.

Mecca 07-12-2019 08:10 AM

2014 is being brought up repeatedly because it's a deflection, the initial shit they reported has nothing left to stand on so they have to do what they can to still prove "hey we're still right because he's a bad person"

rabblerouser 07-12-2019 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 14344748)
He could have decided not to contest the charges while maintaining his innocence. He didn't do that. He admitted guilt.

It was expunged.

According to the letter of the law, he did not.

He took a plea to get that shit expunged from his record.

I know, that's not a very "newsworthy" part of the story...

RollChiefsRoll 07-12-2019 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 14344748)
He could have decided not to contest the charges while maintaining his innocence. He didn't do that. He admitted guilt.

You say that as though you know for certain the local prosecutors in his case were willing to offer a no-admission plea. Do you know that?

Marcellus 07-12-2019 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14344760)
It was expunged.

According to the letter of the law, he did not.

He took a plea to get that shit expunged from his record.

I know, that's not a very "newsworthy" part of the story...

No shit.

"All I have to do is go 3 years without getting in trouble and it gets legally expunged like it never happened vs taking a chance at a trial?"

"Where do I sign?"

OnTheWarpath15 07-12-2019 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by RollChiefsRoll (Post 14344763)
You say that as though you know for certain the local prosecutors in his case were willing to offer a no-admission plea. Do you know that?

Beat me to it.

Mecca 07-12-2019 08:15 AM

If you were him, would anyone here trust the legal system and jurors to do right by you?

DJ's left nut 07-12-2019 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 14344632)
i said in another thread that i cancelled my subscription (over 20 years) and sent my first e mail to let them know exactly why.

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 14344641)
/the90s

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 14344642)
The Star has been a liberal turd for years i wouldnt even use it to catch dog droppings

Y'all say that, but all of you read Terez. I bet you still read Mellinger and were even reading Prior's nonsense.

No more - it's time for us to stop giving them clicks, stop giving them pageviews. Chiefs fans need to get their Chiefs coverage - ALL of it - from somewhere else.

Let these guys know that their news isn't getting anyone's attention and it's the sports page that has been keeping them afloat. If they want to continue to antagonize the people that have been providing them that revenue, it's their prerogative.

But their bottom line won't appreciate their efforts.

Cut 'em out entirely. There are enough independent sources of information these days that you can get anything from them that you'd have gotten from a gamer from Prior or even the occasional 'insight' from Mellinger.

Be done with these assholes because it's the clicks that are enabling them to do this.

rabblerouser 07-12-2019 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14344770)
No shit.

"All I have to do is go 3 years without getting in trouble and it gets legally expunged like it never happened vs taking a chance at a trial?"

"Where do I sign?"

Exactly.

Mecca 07-12-2019 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14344776)
Y'all say that, but all of you read Terez. I bet you still read Mellinger and were even reading Prior's nonsense.

No more - it's time for us to stop giving them clicks, stop giving them pageviews. Chiefs fans need to get their Chiefs coverage - ALL of it - from somewhere else.

Let these guys know that their news isn't getting anyone's attention and it's the sports page that has been keeping them afloat. If they want to continue to antagonize the people that have been providing them that revenue, it's their prerogative.

But their bottom line won't appreciate their efforts.

Cut 'em out entirely. There are enough independent sources of information these days that you can get anything from them that you'd have gotten from a gamer from Prior or even the occasional 'insight' from Mellinger.

Be done with these assholes because it's the clicks that are enabling them to do this.

We should, and the Chiefs should do all they can to pull back from the Star also. The damn beat reporter made racist remarks about a player and said "there's something off about him" yet they are saying he's the bad guy, uh huh.

mr. tegu 07-12-2019 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14344759)
2014 is being brought up repeatedly because it's a deflection, the initial shit they reported has nothing left to stand on so they have to do what they can to still prove "hey we're still right because he's a bad person"


This is exactly correct. After the full audio was released my first post was to suggest people be happy he likely wasn’t a monster in 2014 as portrayed but to leave it be at that because I could see that discussion distracting from the recent allegations, which look better and better for Hill.

The initial cut of audio was to make the recent stuff look worst for Hill, which we shouldn’t forget because that’s the only reason they cut it that way. The full audio clearly doesn’t support what they wanted people to believe initially so now the 2014 stuff is all they have. The 2014 is no longer really important though, therefore they have basically nothing to justify how bad they have made Hill look.

DJ's left nut 07-12-2019 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 14344729)
Need DJ or one of the other resident Legal Eagles to respond:

Are there other possible reasons for a prosecutor to offer a plea bargain OTHER than because they don't have a terribly strong case?

I mean, if his guilt is so obvious, why are they offering him anything?

Sincerely,

Legal Dummy

Caseload.

Even a strong case takes time/effort/resources to make if the guy on the other side wants to dig his heels in and make you go to trial. Even a fairly straightforward jury trial takes a day to conduct and several days to prepare.

Meanwhile, you can plea that thing out and draw up the paperwork in an hour. Now you've bought probably 16-18 hours you can throw at someone who WON'T accept a plea or who's engaged in even more damning behavior.

It's all about volume.

RunKC 07-12-2019 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14344759)
2014 is being brought up repeatedly because it's a deflection, the initial shit they reported has nothing left to stand on so they have to do what they can to still prove "hey we're still right because he's a bad person"

2014 event should absolutely be brought up because it is very relevant after hearing the extended version of the tape.

The problem is that the Star won’t do what’s right and report that Tyreek might actually be innocent due to this new information. They are just sticking to their agenda to paint him as a bad person despite evidence of the contrary.

I seriously hope Tyreek and many other players don’t talk to the Star or KCTV5 in the locker room.


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