Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14795457)

named Braden.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 14795499)

I don't buy that he tanked on purpose except for the Jets game where he looked like he had finally given up. Haley gets blamed for throwing palko out there. But keep in mind that the reason palko was #2 is because Pioli refused to put a backup qb on the roster who would dare threaten cassels starting job. Haley did ask for different backups and was denied.

And I don't think 8-8 is the best he could have done. He led a 9-7 team behind shitty Matt Cassel, a qb he didn't want. Our defense and running game during those years were good enough that we could have been decent with a simple qb change.

But yeah, he's earned his way out of the NFL. And he's probably at best an average coach. But I really buy into the idea that our problems were a hell of a lot more about Pioli than they were haley.

Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 14795587)

Two weeks ago the Chiefs won the Super Bowl, yet here we are, all bunged up over shit Todd Haley did 10 years ago.

I love this place. LMAO

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14795238)

Derrick Johnson was a chronic underachiever until Haley benched him and challenged his manhood.

Dwayne Bowe was shit before and after Haley.

Haley screamed Matt Cassel to 27 TD throws and 7 INTs, which actually resembles an NFL QB on paper...

Haley won the division in 2010 and had the team in contention to win in 2011 when he was fired. It was a "disaster" because of Pioli. The 2012 season, the season after Haley left, is the worst season in Chiefs history.

Looking at it in context, one understands that Haley actually made chicken salad out of total chickenshit, and it looks as if his heavy handed "my way or the highway" was what was needed at the time. Romeo "Play Good Football" Crennell won exactly 3 games with the same team after he took over.

Originally Posted by KCTitus (Post 14795584)

Marty lost the team, Gunther lost the team, Haley lost the team, Crennel never had the team...regardless the front office, you lose the team, it's over as it should be.

I dont absolve Pioli of anything, I just dont remember anything good about those seasons with or without Haley.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14795690)

Haley is an asshole that nobody likes. The Chiefs got sick of it, the Steelers got sick of it and the Browns got sick of it. Looks like the other 29 teams said “nah we good”.

If he was a great coach he’d still be in the NFL