Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15450520)

Again, you're not thinking this through.

Brady had a top-5 defense nearly every SB season. ditto a top-5 OL, running game, and a pair of top-10 receivers between the numbers. Whenever he didn't have one of those things in his back pocket, he lost or didn't make it to the SB. Heck, if he didn't have a bye week he lost.

Mahomes has proven already that he doesn't need all of that. He barely needs a defense. or a running game. Give him a NFL average OL and a couple of top-tier receivers and he will get you into the playoffs, with a better than even chance to go to the SB.

And greatness is about accomplishments, which I was never talking about. Brady obviously is the most accomplished QB ever, which speaks to his greatness.

But he's never been the best QB. He's immobile, has never had more than a slightly better than average arm either in strength or arm talent. He's the epitome of a system QB. Once he has to improv though, he's less than average.

And the question wasn't who is the greatest QB, but who is the best QB to take you to a SB or something like that. The question is all about potential, not what a QB has already done.

And under those constraints, there's no other choice but Patrick Mahomes II. Give him two really good receivers and average everything else and he'll put you in position to win championships. Brady never did anything like that.

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15450420)

You're obviously not thinking this through. If you take Brady, you have to have a great top-5 defense, a top-5 OL, a top-10 rushing offense, and a pair of top-10 between-the-numbers receivers, at a minimum to win championships. The minute you don't have one of those things, Brady's effectiveness drops off.

With Mahomes, all you need is a middle-of-the-road defense at best, a middling OL, an average running game, and at least two top-10 receiving threats to win championships. Lose one of these things and Mahomes will still get into the playoffs and has a better than even chance of getting to a SB.

There's no real comparison between the two in terms of potential. Mahomes is clearly the better choice to build a team around for a SB run.

Originally Posted by daquix (Post 15450376)

Brady.

Without a second thought.

If Mahomes keeps doing what he’s doing over a decade, then the answer will switch to Mahomes.

But after only 1 Super Bowl, Mahomes can’t hold Brady’s jock (yet).

Originally Posted by Pointer19 (Post 15447707)

Looking forward to some trickery.*

* preferably after we have a 21 point lead.

Originally Posted by daquix (Post 15450360)

If the mods vote to have me not here, i’ll never post again.

Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 15448425)

Thanks a lot “BigRedChief”... Now I can’t leave my desk because of my big red erection. :) Nice post!

Originally Posted by daquix (Post 15450403)

I listened to all 11 minutes. He said it.

Back to talking football.

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 15451482)

If you heard it then you know he was completely innocent.

Originally Posted by daquix (Post 15448190)

I really wasn't baiting.

I had no darn clue that Hill was such a sensitive subject around here. That totally shocked me.

Mods around here seem to let literally everything go. Cursing, saying someone should literally die, telling someone to go fck themselves, etc, but bring up Tyreek Hill and apparently that is crossing the line.

Who knew?

Not me.

PS, my honest fear is that somehow Baltimore beats KC. I dont want that to happen because I want to see a KC-Bills AFCCCG.

Originally Posted by daquix (Post 15450366)

I heard what I heard with my own two ears.

On audio tape.

There is no taking that back.

But again, let’s not talk about Hill, it’s the one thing that mods don’t allow.

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 15452206)

When your franchise's second all time leading rusher is this guy, you are in no position to be lecturing other teams' fanbases about morality...

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