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Tribal Warfare 02-08-2021 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 15538235)
GTFO

Show me another QB who can throw the ball while his body is parallel to the ground.

Show me a QB who can be in the grasp, throw a sidearm WITH arc over thirty yards to the endzone and hit his WR in the face mask, only to be dropped.(Williams too)

Show me a QB who can buy time in the pocket for over 400 yds and only take two sacks.

Show me a QB playing with turftoe throughout the playoffs

Show me Tom Brady with four of his starting Olinemen out.

Know how I know he's easily the most dangerous QB in the league?

Your bs post.

He's a troll look at his join date

HC_Chief 02-08-2021 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DTVietnam (Post 15538129)
the line was amazing..look at this perfect block

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EttdQCuX...jpg&name=large

Yeah, Wisniewski blocking Wylie was a perfect example of how absolute shit the OL was last night. When they DID get a decent block, it was on a teammate.

edit: surprised they didn't get flagged for holding each other

notorious 02-08-2021 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Bake51 (Post 15538197)
Hill dropped a TD in the first quarter. Feel like Mahomes played his heart out and he just didn't have any help. Even Kelce dropped a couple balls.

Who in the hell thumbs-downed this post?


Good lord, everything you said is dead-on correct.

Rain Man 02-08-2021 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 15538219)
Dee Ford's was aggravating. There are no words for what Mecole did:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs are making a habit out of lining up offsides against Tom Brady <a href="https://t.co/rGX3r0hbmT">pic.twitter.com/rGX3r0hbmT</a></p>&mdash; Korked Bats (@korkedbats) <a href="https://twitter.com/korkedbats/status/1358578875345887235?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I really wish there was an overhead shot of this to see exactly where he was lined up. He may be in the neutral zone, but for crying out loud he's looking directly at the ball. How is he lined up wrong?

There were four game-changing calls in the first half that completely altered the outcome.

There was the completely wrong call against Breeland that resulted in a touchdown for the other team. There's zero doubt that the call was wrong. It's a bright line. It was not a penalty according to the NFL rulebook. I can see where the official could have screwed up honestly, though. When I saw the play live it looked like Breeland was beat and tackled the guy. That's not at all what happened, but since the official on that side of the field is not the top of the profession, I can see an honest mistake happening.

There was the neutral zone call above. It's frustrating that the same official only seems to see neutral zone violations on key plays. Maybe Mecole is over the line, because Mecole played pretty much the worst Super Bowl game ever played.

There was the call that negated Matthieu's interception and cost the Chiefs a possession. I need to see that one again to make a judgment on whether it was a legit call that would have been called on other plays.

There was the call in the end zone on Matthieu. Did that one result in a score or was that the goal line stand? Either way, I think most reasonable people didn't see contact that was worthy of a penalty.

It would be nice to figure out which officials made those specific calls. Was there a pattern in one official making all of the questionable calls? We know this officiating group is not the best in the league and they were there for reasons unrelated to their performance, but how weak are they as a group?

That said, the Chiefs were not good yesterday. They dropped two touchdown passes that would have made them competitive and probably had less than a 50 percent chance of winning on their own merits. But it would have been nice if they weren't down 20 points early because of the above four calls to give them that chance.

staylor26 02-08-2021 11:10 AM

Rainman, I’ll save you from having to go back and watch the “hold” on Mathieu’s INT. It was 100% bullshit.

KC_Connection 02-08-2021 11:25 AM

Everyone who watched the game knows the bullshit that was the 1st half of that thing. There's a reason you even had the CBS panel saying it without saying it at halftime. It was the most obvious Brady ref show in his entire 20 year career, which is saying a lot.

Now you can certainly say the Chiefs might not have won anyway as badly as their line was outclassed, but the Bucs undeniably had 14 points gifted to them by the refs. Arguably more. Mahomes has overcome a lot in his short career, but there's just no coming back from that against a team as good as Tampa was.

Pants 02-08-2021 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 15538269)
I really wish there was an overhead shot of this to see exactly where he was lined up. He may be in the neutral zone, but for crying out loud he's looking directly at the ball. How is he lined up wrong?

There were four game-changing calls in the first half that completely altered the outcome.

There was the completely wrong call against Breeland that resulted in a touchdown for the other team. There's zero doubt that the call was wrong. It's a bright line. It was not a penalty according to the NFL rulebook. I can see where the official could have screwed up honestly, though. When I saw the play live it looked like Breeland was beat and tackled the guy. That's not at all what happened, but since the official on that side of the field is not the top of the profession, I can see an honest mistake happening.

There was the neutral zone call above. It's frustrating that the same official only seems to see neutral zone violations on key plays. Maybe Mecole is over the line, because Mecole played pretty much the worst Super Bowl game ever played.

There was the call that negated Matthieu's interception and cost the Chiefs a possession. I need to see that one again to make a judgment on whether it was a legit call that would have been called on other plays.

There was the call in the end zone on Matthieu. Did that one result in a score or was that the goal line stand? Either way, I think most reasonable people didn't see contact that was worthy of a penalty.

It would be nice to figure out which officials made those specific calls. Was there a pattern in one official making all of the questionable calls? We know this officiating group is not the best in the league and they were there for reasons unrelated to their performance, but how weak are they as a group?

That said, the Chiefs were not good yesterday. They dropped two touchdown passes that would have made them competitive and probably had less than a 50 percent chance of winning on their own merits. But it would have been nice if they weren't down 20 points early because of the above four calls to give them that chance.

Oh, for sure. No doubt about it. At half time, I was saying that was the single most referee-affected game I had ever seen.

Mecca 02-08-2021 11:29 AM

The Chiefs had an uphill battle in a fairly called game, the NFL decided they wanted to leave no doubt. This was about their boy being established as irreplaceable, no one else ever mentioned as GOAT.

KC_Connection 02-08-2021 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15538212)
I love how people keep saying we only scored 9 pts like the officiating didn’t impact our offense.

If we aren’t down multiple scores, we could have run the ball a lot more which was clearly working. They found something there, but they weren’t able to fully exploit it because they were down too much.

They took away our ability to constantly do the one thing we were doing well offensively last night.

Yep. Have been saying it since last night. When we're royally ****ed by the refs and fall behind two touchdowns at halftime, it changes virtually everything on the offensive end for us.

gold_and_red 02-08-2021 11:30 AM

Consistency or lack thereof. Can't let them play in the CCGs and suddenly call ticky tacky stuff in the SB. Did not see egregious fouls by the Chiefs D on the DPIs. If they hadn't been called nobody would have broken a sweat, hardly noticeable.

ShowtimeSBMVP 02-08-2021 11:31 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">With the obligatory disclaimer that “I’m not blaming this loss on the officials”, let me report that the Chiefs had 10+ penalties in just 5 of their 18 games. <br><br>Three of those five were with Carl Cheffers’s crew. Those were the only Chiefs game they did.<br><br>Cheffers 3/3<br>Others 2/15 <a href="https://t.co/NKMkJUZ4z7">pic.twitter.com/NKMkJUZ4z7</a></p>&mdash; Kurtis Seaboldt (@KSeaboldt) <a href="https://twitter.com/KSeaboldt/status/1358829330105827329?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

KC_Connection 02-08-2021 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15538354)
The Chiefs had an uphill battle in a fairly called game, the NFL decided they wanted to leave no doubt. This was about their boy being established as irreplaceable, no one else ever mentioned as GOAT.

It was my primary fear going into the game (even more than the offensive line in shambles) and it was why I was hoping hard that Rodgers (an undeniably better QB than Brady at this point in their careers and honestly for the majority of their careers) would pull that game out. Of course Brady got his DPI call at the end of that one too and that was that.

staylor26 02-08-2021 11:33 AM

I suppose it’s just a coincidence that the Bucs had more beneficial PI yards than any team in 12+ years.

I suppose it’s just a coincidence that a PI call helped the Bucs seal the win against GB.

RunKC 02-08-2021 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15538212)
I love how people keep saying we only scored 9 pts like the officiating didn’t impact our offense.

If we aren’t down multiple scores, we could have run the ball a lot more which was clearly working. They found something there, but they weren’t able to fully exploit it because they were down too much.

They took away our ability to constantly do the one thing we were doing well offensively last night.

We beat ourselves too. I counted 3 passes that either hit our hands or the face mask and were dropped.

Kelce had one that killed a drive, Tyreek should have had a Td but dropped it and the miraculous Patrick pass that hit Darrel Williams in the face at the goal line.

Refs sucked but we didn’t help ourselves either

staylor26 02-08-2021 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15538383)
We beat ourselves too. I counted 3 passes that either hit our hands or the face mask and were dropped.

Kelce had one that killed a drive, Tyreek should have had a Td but dropped it and the miraculous Patrick pass that hit Darrel Williams in the face at the goal line.

Refs sucked but we didn’t help ourselves either

I don’t disagree.

But it’s not as simple as “they only scored 9 pts., so they would’ve lost anyways”.

The officiating changed the dynamic of the game so much that it’s impossible to say what would’ve happened.


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