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Mephistopheles Janx 03-21-2022 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16204343)
We do a lot of interstate driving. In town, ACC is a lot more tolerable. On the interstate, it's terrible.

The big problem is that you can't turn it off. If CC is on, safety measures are on. You can't enable CC and shut off the ACC, it's all or nothing.

Not on the Niro!

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This is completed by pressing the CRUISE button on the steering wheel, accelerating to your desired speed, and then pressing the SET- button on the steering wheel. The distance control setting can be turned on and off by pressing and holding the distance control button located next to CANCEL on the steering wheel.

DaFace 03-21-2022 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx (Post 16204339)
This is why I'm going with an EV.

https://i.imgur.com/aafljrc.png

At 24MPG, it would take 10 gallons of gasoline which would cost about $36-38.

Add in the fact that maintenance expenses are going to drop as well... it is a no brainer for us.

It's the nuanced part of the discussion that I think people have missed out on. 10 years ago, there was SOME truth to the notion that EVs and solar panels were too expensive to compensate for the cost savings, and SOME truth to the idea that they weren't as environmentally friendly as they sound on the surface.

Since then, the costs and environmental impacts have declined rapidly while the efficiency has steadily improved, and they likely will continue those trends for at least the next 5-10 years. EVs and solar panels are no longer the realm of wealthy tree huggers - they're just plain economical for a majority of situations.

Really, if it weren't for the issue of charging on long drives, there would be very few legit arguments for ICE vehicles at all at this point. Unfortunately, that's a very tough one to solve for.

htismaqe 03-21-2022 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx (Post 16204352)
Not on the Niro!

Yeah, on ours the distance control has 3 settings for distance by no "off" setting.

htismaqe 03-21-2022 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 16204356)
It's the nuanced part of the discussion that I think people have missed out on. 10 years ago, there was SOME truth to the notion that EVs and solar panels were too expensive to compensate for the cost savings, and SOME truth to the idea that they weren't as environmentally friendly as they sound on the surface.

Since then, the costs and environmental impacts have declined rapidly while the efficiency has steadily improved, and they likely will continue those trends for at least the next 5-10 years. EVs and solar panels are no longer the realm of wealthy tree huggers - they're just plain economical for a majority of situations.

Really, if it weren't for the issue of charging on long drives, there would be very few legit arguments for ICE vehicles at all at this point. Unfortunately, that's a very tough one to solve for.

To be honest, the solution to ICE vehicles, and vehicle costs in general, is to not drive. Unfortunately, as you said, the problem is distance, especially once you get past the east or west costs.

In Europe, I could go anywhere I wanted without ever setting foot in a car. Can't do that here, it's simply not practical unless you live in a major metro.

Lzen 03-21-2022 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16204198)
I find them both annoying. Our ACC is way too sensitive and it slows the car jarringly at times. The lane assist is also too sensitive so the car is constantly beeping at me over nothing.

I think you're car is trying to tell you that you're a bad driver. ROFL

Chief Roundup 03-21-2022 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 16198790)
Note that you'd get $7500 of that yourself if you purchased it. That's just the federal tax credit that they're claiming on your behalf.

I thought that $7500 tax credit was only for Cars made by American unions, Ford, GM. That is the reason that Tesla and others do not qualify for all of that amount.

DaFace 03-21-2022 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 16204661)
I thought that $7500 tax credit was only for Cars made by American unions, Ford, GM. That is the reason that Tesla and others do not qualify for all of that amount.

No, Tesla doesn't qualify because they already hit their cap of 200k cars sold. The other legislation you're referring to never went through. Still could, but hasn't yet.

Also, that legislation didn't remove the $7500 credit - it just added extras for unionized manufacturers. Obviously it all could change or never be passed at all. Time will tell.

Chief Roundup 03-21-2022 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rtmike (Post 16200428)
This whole ev push is a joke, lol.

95% of households don't have sufficient wiring to charge one overnight.
Portable or out in the boonies chargers are powered by diesel generators.
Oh, and let's keep punching damns in the nw, lol.
Windmills have 20 yeaar expectations, non recyclable.
Entire w m farms power a town of 1300-1500. That's what the Vesta techs told me, lol.
Maintenance is high $$, crane rental boys, lol. And they look like shit all over out here.

There needs to be a balance yes, but I don't get it, lol.

More bad information, most likely because of a change resistant bias.

It is more like 95% of households have sufficient available wiring to charge one overnight. Most people have outlets in their garage.
Do you live in Australia or someplace like that? Why would you need a charger out in the "boonies"?
The more houses that continue to put up and use solar panels the easier it is to not just power your house but also charge your vehicle.
You are way out of touch and have been getting your information from people that are just against the EV market on any and all levels.

Mephistopheles Janx 03-21-2022 02:20 PM

Got the outlet and the Level 2 charger installed today.

https://i.imgur.com/8kBWSDV.jpg

Now the only gasoline I intend to regularly buy is for the mower, 3 wheeler, and the motorcycle.

The Franchise 03-21-2022 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx (Post 16204685)
Got the outlet and the Level 2 charger installed today.

https://i.imgur.com/8kBWSDV.jpg

Now the only gasoline I intend to regularly buy is for the mower, 3 wheeler, and the motorcycle.

What’s the average amount of miles you can go?

I’m always worried my dumb ass would get stuck somewhere without a place to charge. Does AAA come charge it for you if you run out of juice?

DaFace 03-21-2022 02:26 PM

In case anyone's in the market and curious about the tax credits, this site does a decent job of tracking how close each manufacturer is to the caps. Right now Tesla and GM are done, and Toyota is getting close. Ford will likely hit it by the end of 2022. All other manufacturers should get the full $7500 credit for the near future.

https://evadoption.com/ev-sales/fede...-by-automaker/

Mephistopheles Janx 03-21-2022 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16204690)
What’s the average amount of miles you can go?

I’m always worried my dumb ass would get stuck somewhere without a place to charge. Does AAA come charge it for you if you run out of juice?

This car has an absolute max range of 239 miles. Wife drives 65 miles 5 days out of the week around 190 days of the year. She could, ostensibly, go 3 days in between charges now that the level 2 charger is installed.

I have roadside through USAA which will tow me 50 miles in any direction. Then the car came with roadside as well. Get dropped off at a supercharger and I'm back to 80% in 30 minutes or so (depending on how fast the supercharger can dump into the car).

DaFace 03-21-2022 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16204690)
What’s the average amount of miles you can go?

I’m always worried my dumb ass would get stuck somewhere without a place to charge. Does AAA come charge it for you if you run out of juice?

It's definitely something you have to pay attention to. Looks like the Niro is rated at 239 miles in range, and it'll drop by up to 20% in really cold weather. So you do need to either stick near home or plan your route with charging in mind.

As for AAA, while it's technically possible to haul a charger out on a truck, it makes far more sense in most cases for them to just tow you to a charger. In that sense, it's no different than any other roadside assistance policy.

Chief Roundup 03-21-2022 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 16204707)
It's definitely something you have to pay attention to.

I hear so many people talking about being afraid that they will run out of charge. It is amazing that so many people think there is not a gauge that tells you how much you have left similar to a gas gauge in a "regular" vehicle.
I have asked so many of them if they run out of gas regularly or if they pay attention to the gas gauge and fill up when necessary.

Shaid 03-21-2022 02:37 PM

EVs are making strides but I don't think they are ready for primetime yet. I'll let other people buy them for a few more years before I jump in.


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