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Kiimo 08-03-2022 06:14 PM

Now I haven't watched film but from what I understand, Pacheco's vision problems had a lot to do with getting the ball and immediately being hit by like four guys in the backfield. Like, he had happy feet because he was desperate to just get to the line of scrimmage.

That's not a great way to test vision for a RB in my opinion.

RustShack 08-03-2022 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 16393951)
Now I haven't watched film but from what I understand, Pacheco's vision problems had a lot to do with getting the ball and immediately being hit by like four guys in the backfield. Like, he had happy feet because he was desperate to just get to the line of scrimmage.

That's not a great way to test vision for a RB in my opinion.

His QB, OL, team, and probably coaching staff were pretty bad.

MVChiefFan 08-03-2022 06:28 PM

Yeah that Rutgers team, specifically the O-line, was horrible. I feel like we may have gotten a steal in the 7th. A Bernard Venkman special, if you will.

CatfishBob2 08-03-2022 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 16393951)
Now I haven't watched film but from what I understand, Pacheco's vision problems had a lot to do with getting the ball and immediately being hit by like four guys in the backfield. Like, he had happy feet because he was desperate to just get to the line of scrimmage.

That's not a great way to test vision for a RB in my opinion.

His OL got virtually zero push and one lineman in particular looked like a turnstile.

Pacheco looks like he has great hands and can get to the edge and make people miss in space.
My gripe with him is it doesn't look like he knows how to set up blocks and make something out of nothing...which I think you have to do in the NFL unless you play for a team like the 49ers

FringeNC 08-03-2022 06:46 PM

How good of a pass-blocker is Ronald Jones? That could put him over the top if he's on the bubble, but if he sucks, who he is beating out to get a roster spot?

saphojunkie 08-03-2022 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 16393984)
How good of a pass-blocker is Ronald Jones? That could put him over the top if he's on the bubble, but if he sucks, who he is beating out to get a roster spot?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">ronald jones is 145th among 151 RBs in PFF&#39;s pass blocking grades this year. oh god. oh god.</p>&mdash; Denny Carter (@CDCarter13) <a href="https://twitter.com/CDCarter13/status/1474372297989529605?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 24, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Abba-Dabba 08-03-2022 06:50 PM

I'm thinking that Rojo probably would be a little better in power run formations than McKinnon is what may set him apart. McKinnon you always have to worry about how fragile he is.

FringeNC 08-03-2022 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 16393986)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">ronald jones is 145th among 151 RBs in PFF&#39;s pass blocking grades this year. oh god. oh god.</p>&mdash; Denny Carter (@CDCarter13) <a href="https://twitter.com/CDCarter13/status/1474372297989529605?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 24, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He's not making the roster.

FringeNC 08-03-2022 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RubberSponge (Post 16393988)
I'm thinking that Rojo probably would be a little better in power run formations than McKinnon is what may set him apart. McKinnon you always have to worry about how fragile he is.

McKinnon was explosive in the playoffs. How do you cut him? I don't see it. If Pacheco makes the roster, and Ronald Jones is terrible at pass-blocking, I can't see keeping him over McKinnon or trimming a TE or WR spot to keep Jones.

BWillie 08-03-2022 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 16393986)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">ronald jones is 145th among 151 RBs in PFF&#39;s pass blocking grades this year. oh god. oh god.</p>&mdash; Denny Carter (@CDCarter13) <a href="https://twitter.com/CDCarter13/status/1474372297989529605?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 24, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I want him cut, then. Our only use for a RB is to catch passes and block.

saphojunkie 08-03-2022 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 16393989)
He's not making the roster.

We'll see. The night is young.

TwistedChief 08-03-2022 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16393992)
I want him cut, then. Our only use for a RB is to catch passes and block.

How slow are you? Do you think Veach just read a tweet from December 2021 like you did? We all knew this was a major deficiency.

I think the dude will easily be our best pure RB.

RealSNR 08-03-2022 07:04 PM

8/3/22 Training Camp Discussion
 
Think there’s a team stupid enough to trade for one of our RBs?

Houston gave us that worthless **** Martinas Rankin for Carlos Hyde. Think they’d do it again?

MVChiefFan 08-03-2022 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16393997)
How slow are you? Do you think Veach just read a tweet from December 2021 like you did? We all knew this was a major deficiency.

I think the dude will easily be our best pure RB.

This. He’ll definitely be our best short yardage/between the tackles runner. Again, I think CEH offers the least in the running back room. We have two, maybe three guys on the roster that can do everything better than than he does.

FringeNC 08-03-2022 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16393997)
How slow are you? Do you think Veach just read a tweet from December 2021 like you did? We all knew this was a major deficiency.

I think the dude will easily be our best pure RB.

How many RBs will we keep?


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