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Lzen 10-24-2022 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16549748)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The 2022 Chiefs already have as many 40+ point games through 7 regular season games as the 2021 Chiefs had in 17 regular season games (3). <a href="https://t.co/YPCVC3a2PE">pic.twitter.com/YPCVC3a2PE</a></p>&mdash; ����‼️ (@LanceTHESPOKEN) <a href="https://twitter.com/LanceTHESPOKEN/status/1584364051240747008?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 24, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
That right there says a lot.

Lzen 10-24-2022 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 16549787)
Man and they have all kinds of options this offseason too.

Skyy is going to start emerging next year, and may emerge more late this year.

JuJu has already taken a pay cut to play here, he may take a sweetheart deal to stay. MVS is under contract.

Mecole is a FA, will probably get a deal elsewhere to net us a comp pick. Watson is a FA but will almost certainly want to stay, and stay cheap.

The Chiefs have more draft picks to continue building that unit, and Veach's draft picks have been stellar the last two years. Andy Reid could use a #1 elite option but if you give him more speed he's going to be just fine.

Travis Kelce looks so damn good I'd be willing to trade Noah Gray, but keeping him and Fortson keeps that unit elite. Blake Bell is a luxury we can afford to part with, but the Chiefs love him so who knows.

Gotta either keep McKinnon or get a similar RB who can kill in the passing game.

If they land a WR in the 1st who can wreck man coverage, it's over for the next two years folks.

Just a good time to be a Chiefs fan.
I don't know about trading Noah Gray. He's only in his 2nd year and the Chiefs seem to really like him. He's developing into a decent TE. Why would you trade him?

penguinz 10-24-2022 08:05 AM
What happened to 24pts?

tredadda 10-24-2022 08:07 AM
There were a lot of people on here who felt the KC offense would be better without Tyreek. Not because they have a WR the caliber or as dynamic as Tyreek. They have a much deeper WR core and Mahomes has evolved into a QB that spreads it around more vs the “F it Tyreek down there somewhere”.

Lzen 10-24-2022 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 16550208)
Because Mahomes

He is playing better than he was last year. He‘ll pick you apart. He’s the main reason we are leading the NFL in scoring offense.
Mahomes did struggle for a bit last year while learning to deal with the two deep constantly. I think somebody post some stuff recently that showed how the offense really took off last year once the ball started getting spread around a lot more. That worked until the AFC Championship game. I believe the numbers showed that Hill and Kelce received the biggest amount of targets by far in that game and probably a good reason why we lost. This year, because there is no true #1 WR (though you could call Kelce the #1) the ball has been spread around quite a bit. It also probably helps that the WR group as a whole is better. And because of that, this offense has become even tougher to defend.

Hoover 10-24-2022 08:10 AM
I think some credit should Nagy's way too. He and Patrick really seem like the perfect pair.

Marcellus 10-24-2022 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16550400)
First time in 22 years that the Chiefs had two WR's go over 100 yards.
Holy shit this is surprising to say the least. Figured Mahomes would have accomplished this with Hill and somebody else before now.

ThaVirus 10-24-2022 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16550027)
not really, we're 7 games in

can easily point to any 0 TD game to counter that
They're extreme statistical outliers. A 0 TD game is not a statistical outlier.

Hammock Parties 10-24-2022 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 16550495)
They're extreme statistical outliers. A 0 TD game is not a statistical outlier.
over the course of a season these things balance out - for instance, kelce getting robbed of a TD yesterday, and dropping one in Indy

i'm here to tell you, you can have full confidence in the pace of the kansas city chiefs, your favorite football team

tredadda 10-24-2022 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 16549787)
Man and they have all kinds of options this offseason too.

Skyy is going to start emerging next year, and may emerge more late this year.

JuJu has already taken a pay cut to play here, he may take a sweetheart deal to stay. MVS is under contract.

Mecole is a FA, will probably get a deal elsewhere to net us a comp pick. Watson is a FA but will almost certainly want to stay, and stay cheap.

The Chiefs have more draft picks to continue building that unit, and Veach's draft picks have been stellar the last two years. Andy Reid could use a #1 elite option but if you give him more speed he's going to be just fine.

Travis Kelce looks so damn good I'd be willing to trade Noah Gray, but keeping him and Fortson keeps that unit elite. Blake Bell is a luxury we can afford to part with, but the Chiefs love him so who knows.

Gotta either keep McKinnon or get a similar RB who can kill in the passing game.

If they land a WR in the 1st who can wreck man coverage, it's over for the next two years folks.

Just a good time to be a Chiefs fan.
I don’t think they keep Bell at this point. He isn’t very valuable at this point. I disagree about an elite WR. They don’t need one. I would rather funnel money and draft picks on strengthening the OLine. The two games KC lost this year was because Mahomes was under constant pressure. When he isn’t pressured constantly he torches elite defenses with the WRs we currently have.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 10-24-2022 08:20 AM
More juicy stats

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Only eight games since 1981 have seen a team put up offensive DVOA above 100%.<br><br>Kansas City had 103.5% today.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a></p>&mdash; Aaron Schatz �� (@FO_ASchatz) <a href="https://twitter.com/FO_ASchatz/status/1584391738109485056?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 24, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

mlyonsd 10-24-2022 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16550400)
First time in 22 years that the Chiefs had two WR's go over 100 yards.
Wow.

tredadda 10-24-2022 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 16550438)
Do you think the issue that game was WRs, gameplan, or OL?

IMO, the biggest issue that game was OL followed by gameplan.
It’s absolutely the OLine. Give Mahomes time and he will shred a defense. If he’s constantly running for his life he isn’t nearly as effective.

RunKC 10-24-2022 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 16550492)
Holy shit this is surprising to say the least. Figured Mahomes would have accomplished this with Hill and somebody else before now.
I’m sure Tyreek and Kelce together have done it a few times over the years but Kelce is a TE even though he’s basically a big WR in this offense

Lzen 10-24-2022 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16550591)
If he’s constantly running for his life he isn’t nearly as effective.
Absolutely! And that's true of every QB ever.


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