Agree. I've said all along - any 'issue' that people have with Karlaftis isn't really with Karlaftis. It's with his supporting cast. The Chiefs need a complementary pass rusher and 'finisher' to go with him.

I think he looks a LOT better this year with any upgrade on the cadaver we have on the other side.

2 of his 3 best games this year have come in the 2 games Clark has been out.

Some of that (most of that?) is just development. But it's amazing how little this team misses that slug.

I'm also very content with Karlaftis. I feel like he's developing well and has been affecting the QB pretty regularly. I think the Chiefs got a good one. Imagine a couple of off-seasons in the S&C program. I think he'll be fine.

Agh. I’m still pissed that we didn’t get Sam Williams. I mean holy **** man.

6’4”
260
4.46 40
7.03 3 cone
25 bench reps

He was so perfect. He was (Nate Taylor humor here) the white horse walking on a sandy beach. He had to wait for playing time but now he already has 3 sacks. He was killing Aaron Rodgers on Sunday.

I’m a Skyy Moore fan but Sam Williams was my favorite player in the whole damn draft. He was my favorite fit for us and he was there in the mid 2nd rd.

Again….agh. The Cowboys have Micah Parsons and Sam Williams for the next 4 years. That’s gonna be the best in the league.

I’m not sad or bitter or anything.

I figured it out; I had sorted by "True Pass Set" performance - i.e. plays that don't include rollouts, screens, etc...

Just a straight up "This offensive lineman is assigned with setting a clean pocket on a straight drop back".

Frankly that stat seems more useful for OL than it does for DL. So here's the chart of total pressures:

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/pict...pictureid=2325

And really the distinction does make a little sense - Karlaftis is a 'motor' guy and a smart player; some of those boots, etc... that he gets pressures on are a result of not quitting on a play or sniffing them out. He may be a little better on the 'other' plays than some dudes who win through raw athleticism.

As for winning percentages; with that same group (70+ pass rush snaps), he's 6th behind Thomas, Williams, Bonitto, Enagbare and Thibodeaux. All those guys have REALLY small sample sizes, but they've all shown some real ability to create havoc as well. We'll see how larger sample sizes influence the numbers and if some of it isn't just a result of a really strong game.

I think the best thing to say about him right now is that he and Hutchinson have virtually identical snap counts and while Hutchinson has 6 sacks, they have the same win rate (11.8%). It suggests a couple of things, IMO.

1) Hutchinson has a little more bend that allows him to finish better than Karlaftis. This is kindof a 'duh' thing given that he was a much more highly touted prospect. He's probably has some traits that George can't match. Okay.

2) The gulf in total sacks doesn't match the gap in total pressures, which tells me he's better, but he ain't SIX TIMES better. And I don't think his sack totals are an outlier either - that's a pace I think Hutchinson can keep up. That's 10-12 sacks on the season for Hutchinson and I think that's probably doable. So if it ain't HIS figure that's the outlier that's creating the odd disparity, it must be Karlaftis's.

Which tells me that the sacks will come. 6-8 seems to still be a reasonable projection. He may be too far behind the 8 ball this year to get there, but I think that's absolutely a reasonable target for him going forward and to put him at that pace from now through the rest of the season means he'd get 3-4 sacks for the remainder of the year? That seems like a pretty good bet.

We don't talk about Sam Williams anymore...

{sigh}

Oh, and regarding PFF grades - look at Josh Paschal.

Fewer sacks, lower win rate, more worse 'hurry to other' ratio (because I value hurries less than the other types of pressure for a variety of reasons). Not to mention a more dedicated pass rush role.

There simply isn't a metric whereby he's outperforming Karlaftis - yet his pass rush 'grade' is 10 points higher.

It's hard to put much stock in those grades, man. The raw numbers are useful to pick through, but to say that Karlaftis, who's leading the league in pressures by a rookie, is the third worst pass rusher in that group? I mean that seems pretty damn wonky to me.

They have George with 1 more point than Mafe. Mafe hasn't played well at all.

He's been really bad. My memory is that he had a pretty good start in week 1 or 2 and he's just vanished ever since. Hell, maybe that was even a pre-season game.

But it's okay - he has plenty of time. It's not like he's a 24 year old rookie or anything...

Tough call. He came with some baggage remember? I was pounded for Sam for a while but I get it.

And then it comes down to choice. If KC stays put instead of trading down, then they are staring at Pickens, Pierce, and Williams as guys that would have been real nice picks at this point.

At WR, I think everyone has been focused on Pickens but the real winning pick was Alec Pierce. No reported baggage and has been as productive as Pickens with less snaps.

I'd have had a hard time taking Sam over either of those WRs at that point. I'd have probably taken Pickens looking back to my thoughts then and probably Pierce in hindsight. I saw Sam as a guy you probably get at the Cook pick or even in round 3.

If I'm pissed about missing out on someone....it would be Drake Jackson.

I’d have taken Sam Williams without a second thought. Even with drafting George. It’s a blue chip position.

These 2nd/3rd tier level SEC schools are where all the steals are. Basically the Mississippi schools.

Chris Jones
Willie Gay
Dak Prescott
Gabe Jackson
Montez Sweat
Elgton Jenkins
AJ Brown
DK Metcalf
Dawson Knox
Elijah Moore
Sam Williams

It’s like all the guys the top SEC schools didn’t want. I think Mississippi is the state where the majority of the biggest steals of the draft are.

Even L’Jarius Sneed played in Mississippi

Take the pass rusher over the WR. Andy can get production out of whatever WR.