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Abba-Dabba 03-13-2023 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16853734)
Let's play a game that's theoretically possible but won't happen:

Say we draft Mazi Smith in round 1. Which I don't think happens with a Jones extension.

Round 2 you grab a EDGE I think there's several there to choose from (not likely you pay Jones, Draft a DT round 1, with last year's pick a 1st rounder)

Trade a 4 & 6th for Hopkins

You have arguably an elite defensive line, one of the better Linenacker duos in the league, with a battle tested young secondary in which you can build more depth because you still have several picks left.

Oh and an offense with a top 10 WR, A top 5 TE of all time, Top 5 HOF QB of all time, and an emerging RB in Pacheco with one of the best offensive lines in the league and 1 of the greatest coaches of all time.

How much are you paying Hopkins?

Couch-Potato 03-13-2023 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16853734)
Let's play a game that's theoretically possible but won't happen:

Say we draft Mazi Smith in round 1. Which I don't think happens with a Jones extension.

Round 2 you grab a EDGE I think there's several there to choose from (not likely you pay Jones, Draft a DT round 1, with last year's pick a 1st rounder)

Trade a 4 & 6th for Hopkins

You have arguably an elite defensive line, one of the better Linenacker duos in the league, with a battle tested young secondary in which you can build more depth because you still have several picks left.

Oh and an offense with a top 10 WR, A top 5 TE of all time, Top 5 HOF QB of all time, and an emerging RB in Pacheco with one of the best offensive lines in the league and 1 of the greatest coaches of all time.

Yes! I would be stoked for Breese or Mazi in RD 1 and a DE, maybe Tuipolutu, Hall, or Carter in RD 2, but I think you'd probably have to move a 3rd + conditional 2024 pick to get Hopkins. Use our 4th rounders on a RT and a Safety to compete for spots and play ball! This is what I want, currently. Let's go!

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Couch-Potato 03-13-2023 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Abba-Dabba (Post 16853791)
How much are you paying Hopkins?

He implied that he'd play on his current contract with the Chiefs.

Abba-Dabba 03-13-2023 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 16853816)
He implied that he'd play on his current contract with the Chiefs.

I haven't seen that. Could you bring it up so I could see it?

I saw him say on the Pat McAfee show that he had hired an agent so he wouldn't get the short end of the stick this time. I could probably find a youtube video of him saying it. But it begs the question. If his last deal is the short end of the stick, why would he play on it? Which I would also add in the question is nearly 20 million per year the short end of the stick? Sheesh...

I think he wants new deal, with more guaranteed money and more money per year based off the statements I have heard from him.

But only him and his agent knows what he wants. :shrug:

farmerchief 03-13-2023 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 16830600)
The plus side of any receiver coming to KC - Mahomes and Andy with a shot at the title.

Can Hopkins play second fiddle to a tight end? Maybe? I feel Gallup or Golladay could, but I wonder if DHop would be ok with lesser numbers than he's used to putting up*.

I’m afraid, if he’s healthy to play, he would become disgruntled, if he did not see enough passes headed his direction. After awhile, he would become a distraction, imo.

Couch-Potato 03-13-2023 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Abba-Dabba (Post 16853824)
I haven't seen that. Could you bring it up so I could see it?

I saw him say on the Pat McAfee show that he had hired an agent so he wouldn't get the short end of the stick this time. I could probably find a youtube video of him saying it. But it begs the question. If his last deal is the short end of the stick, why would he play on it? Which I would also add in the question is nearly 20 million per year the short end of the stick? Sheesh...

I think he wants new deal, with more guaranteed money and more money per year based off the statements I have heard from him.

But only him and his agent knows what he wants. :shrug:

Here it is: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other...ed/ar-AA18nM7z

Add that to him making a comment on Pat's shows that he's excited about some of the team names being associated with his trade rumors (assuming that's the Chiefs) and it does feel like he'd be willing to play his contact out here.

Abba-Dabba 03-13-2023 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 16853840)
Here it is: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other...ed/ar-AA18nM7z

Add that to him making a comment on Pat's shows that he's excited about some of the team names being associated with his trade rumors (assuming that's the Chiefs) and it does feel like he'd be willing to play his contact out here.

I'm not having a lot of confidence that him saying will be flexible that he would take a lesser, or even play on the same deal to be with the Chiefs. That sounds like a pretty vague statement to me that could allow him many pathways to negotiation.

I'm of the belief that money talks and bullshit walks.

Abba-Dabba 03-13-2023 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 16853840)
Add that to him making a comment on Pat's shows that he's excited about some of the team names being associated with his trade rumors (assuming that's the Chiefs) and it does feel like he'd be willing to play his contact out here.

Could be he is excited to get into Jerry Jones pocket? :shrug:

Titty Meat 03-13-2023 09:46 PM

It's been reported Pats phone has been blowing up he's probably on Pat's line

Couch-Potato 03-13-2023 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16853873)
It's been reported Pats phone has been blowing up he's probably on Pat's line

I like the way you think Titty Meat!

Couch-Potato 03-13-2023 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Abba-Dabba (Post 16853862)
Could be he is excited to get into Jerry Jones pocket? :shrug:

Pesimist!

Abba-Dabba 03-13-2023 09:49 PM

Looking at that statement of being more flexible in it's full context. He is talking about being flexible in not taking a top of the market deal. So 27-30 million is top of the market. He will make nearly 20 million aav the next 2 years, so lets split the difference between the 2 and assume that is what he wants. Does that seem reasonable? Does 24 million per year sound reasonable to you to pay Hopkins?

chiefforlife 03-13-2023 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Abba-Dabba (Post 16853880)
Looking at that statement of being more flexible in it's full context. He is talking about being flexible in not taking a top of the market deal. So 27-30 million is top of the market. He will make nearly 20 million aav the next 2 years, so lets split the difference between the 2 and assume that is what he wants. Does that seem reasonable? Does 24 million per year sound reasonable to you to pay Hopkins?

I think he is being a bit vague because it will depend on where he goes.

He wants to WIN! If he goes to the Chiefs, he will make it work.

If he goes to a shit team, he will want the money!

Sounds reasonable to me...

Abba-Dabba 03-13-2023 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 16853889)
I think he is being a bit vague because it will depend on where he goes.

He wants to WIN! If he goes to the Chiefs, he will make it work.

If he goes to a shit team, he will want the money!

Sounds reasonable to me...

Sounds like he wants money regardless.

Titty Meat 03-13-2023 10:03 PM

Whatever he wants is irrelevant I don't see how a team would trade + extend him for the money he wants at his age. If the compensation is met it comes down to would he want to stay in AZ or not?


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