I wouldn’t blame that single mistake on him. But overall, the special teams have been atrocious all year and have strongly contributed to our losses. With as many mistakes that have been made non-stop all season that has to be attributed to a failure in coaching.

9 new players on ST this season. Most in Toub's tenure, so 22 years?

Really, the only ST vets are Winchester, Townsend and Butker, according to the depth chart. Everyone else is new/rookie. Winchester has been about normal, but one of his snaps today was a worm-burner. Townsend muffed the hold on one. Last one the DEN player was just too tall. If his mother had conceived him with a shorter man, we're not having any conversation about that last FG attempt.

As for the season, well, if we're honest at all, everyone has a down year. This season is not indicative of Toub's career by a wide stretch.

But CP's gotta find something to bitch about, i get it.

Carry on.

I chalk up A LOT of this year's issues to two things:

1)growing pains with a very young roster, especially defense

and

2) fatigue.

It was the right adjustment. But it’s too extreme of an adjustment. We’ve gotta be somewhere in between. Mahomes is too good of a qb to ask him to be Alex smith. Toney isn’t even elite but he continues to show that we can still be aggressive with the pass with a WR capable of doing it.

Today is a great example. Mahomes wasn’t at his best. But our WRs continue to kill drives. If you want efficiency we can’t have WRs who are so mistake prone or who need perfect passes. Every missed play is magnified in an efficient offense.

I 100% get and approve of us rebuilding and that we’re not gonna have answers this year. Our strategy makes sense for what we have and its plenty good. But we can’t rely exclusively on efficiency and owning no part of the intermediate sidelines.

Just FYI: MVS was 2-for-7 today, receptions vs. targets. 28.5%.

Man, I don't agree with your assessment at all.

most of the INT's are precisely because Mahomes ISN'T always taking what's there and forcing it downfield.

Trying to force the ball downfield when the defense is specifically built to beat that is just madness, Mahomes or no.

It's still football. Even when you have the best QB in the sport, it's still football.

Run the ball and take the short stuff and get them out of the light boxes and dropping 7 and the deep shots will be there.

It's still football.

15 rushes won't cut it. It won't keep the defense honest. I don't know if they need to make PM do more rushes in the RPO game but the lack of a run game today really showed up.

12. Subtract out Pat's scrambles, because none of those wre designed runs, and we ran the ball 12 times.

The guy who blocked it was untouched stepped into a gap jumped unhindered and got a hand on it.

Maybe work on FG protections.

Ah, so Toub hasn't been coaching the protections, got it. So, by that reckoning, the Chiefs have had at least 10 FG/XP attempts blocked this season? how about just in the last 5 years?

Since neither is the case, is it possible, even remotely, that someone just made a mistake/DEN just made a play?

Nah, gotta be Toub hasn't been coaching protections ever in 22 years, right?

Yes, that was huge. I was ****ing screaming at the tv

Yeah that's the stuff I feel like happens on almost every play.

To me, the story of the game was Toney. He led the team in receiving and I think that could become a somewhat regular occurrence if he stays healthy. He’s going to be a big part of the playoff run.

both routes he ran were tyreek specials

Good read DC, Thanks.

I thought the officiating was ultimately fair. The hands to the face was weak, but so was the OPI that helped us out. that's really all I had a ton of trouble with. I'd sure as **** take that crew of Cheffers or Clete god ****ing Blakeman. God I hate ****ing dogshit officials.

STs is ****ing frustrating. I'm all about Justin Watson fielding punts. He's a smart player, has sure hands back there and looked confident when he fielded them. Just catch it and run forward, to pussyfooting, no reversing field, just catch and run forward. Take what they give you, don't give anyone the opportunity to get a penalty and get the best QB that has ever played the ball.

No clue WTF to think about Townsend. Obviously he biffed the snap, but it looked like after the miss Butker was explaining shit to Townsend. Do they not practice? WTF.

15 in a row is 15 in a row. DJ had like 2 picks and housed one on them when they were a playoff team and we were in the shitter and they were good. It happens. Dominance is hard. Brother****ing Cheatriot ****bag lost some and played poorly in division sometimes, and they were actively cheating. It's hard. Get the win. Move on.

**** Donk Forever.