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O.city 01-11-2023 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16728380)
Because to me his role in this offense can be replaced on the cheap.

That's fine with me, but I just don't know that it's as easy to replace that as JJSS.

RunKC 01-11-2023 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16728352)
Same reason we didn't keep Charvarius Ward.

Sometimes you've gotta make tough decisions even if all the player in question is seeking is a 'fair' deal.

Ward wasn't overpaid by any stretch of the imagination. But we felt we could replace his production with scheme and/or cost controlled players. I think that's exactly the situation we find ourselves in with JJSS.

We were finding capable guys like Ward from a practice squad, Fenton from the 6th rd, Sneed from the 4th and Breeland from the scrap heap around training camp.

The Chiefs have taken shots at Cornell Powell, Jehu Chesson, Byron Pringle, Demarcus Robinson. None of those guys could fill the Sammy Watkins type role with any effectiveness.

It’s pretty obvious that we haven’t been able to fill Sammy’s shoes ever since he left.

I think Juju is capable of doing here what he did in Pittsburgh in 2019 next season as he gets a full offseason with Patrick.

DJ's left nut 01-11-2023 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16728398)
We were finding capable guys like Ward from a practice squad, Fenton from the 6th rd, Sneed from the 4th and Breeland from the scrap heap around training camp.

The Chiefs have taken shots at Cornell Powell, Jenny Chesson, Byron Pringle, Demarcus Robinson. None of those guys could fill the Sammy Watkins type role with any effectiveness.

It’s pretty obvious that we haven’t been able to fill Sammy’s shoes ever since he left.

I think Juju is capable of doing here what he did in Pittsburgh in 2019 next season as he gets a full offseason with Patrick.

Nobody was expecting Watson to replace Ward. They were expecting McDuffie to do it and he did.

So now we're not talking about Powell or Chesson here - we're talking about Skyy Moore.

That's your backfill. You know more about him now than you knew about McDuffie when he took the field.

It's big boy pants time for Skyy. And JJSS is such a limited player who runs such basic routes, I see no reason why we couldn't put Moore in that role and get strong production if he's an NFL caliber receiver.

O.city 01-11-2023 11:09 AM

Why wouldn't you want to plug Moore in there? Whats the issue with it?

Cut MVS, sign Watson to let him do the deep stuff that MVS does if you want.

There you go, cheap WR room.

FloridaMan88 01-11-2023 11:12 AM

Nothing personal, but good riddance to MEHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

DJ's left nut 01-11-2023 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16728414)
Why wouldn't you want to plug Moore in there? Whats the issue with it?

Cut MVS, sign Watson to let him do the deep stuff that MVS does if you want.

There you go, cheap WR room.

Because the same folks that refuse to concede that Moore was a staggering disappointment this year are scared to actually rely on him next year.

Odd how that works out...

O.city 01-11-2023 11:12 AM

It's the same situation with Thornhill at safety.

You drafted Cook and let him have a year of dipping his toe in.

Well, now it's time to insert him at safety next to Reid and roll forward.

Mecca 01-11-2023 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16728417)
It's the same situation with Thornhill at safety.

You drafted Cook and let him have a year of dipping his toe in.

Well, now it's time to insert him at safety next to Reid and roll forward.

Even if you do that, you still have to invest again with how often 3 safeties are out there.

O.city 01-11-2023 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16728416)
Because the same folks that refuse to concede that Moore was a staggering disappointment this year are scared to actually rely on him next year.

Odd how that works out...

Next time they yell at me for wanting to trade draft picks.....I'm gonna yell back.

O.city 01-11-2023 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16728421)
Even if you do that, you still have to invest again with how often 3 safeties are out there.

Go find a 3rd safety on the scrap heap. Doesn't seem like a real difficult spot to fill.

CupidStunt 01-11-2023 11:16 AM

I wouldn't extend Gay. I love his energy, and his speed flashes from time to time, but you can't pay everyone and it's one of the more replaceable positions. I don't think we'd miss him some crazy amount. Get Chenal in there and let's roll. Especially after Roquan's new deal - not that Gay gets anywhere near that, but I'm sure it's bumped up the off-ball LB price tag. No thanks.

DJ's left nut 01-11-2023 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16728427)
Go find a 3rd safety on the scrap heap. Doesn't seem like a real difficult spot to fill.

And that, friends, is why you don't use a 2nd round pick on one.

But I digress...

O.city 01-11-2023 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16728437)
And that, friends, is why you don't use a 2nd round pick on one.

But I digress...

Eh, if he steps in and replaces Thornhill as the starter, it is what it is. I get it alteast.

I don't think he was meant to be the 3rd safety here for long.

Mecca 01-11-2023 11:22 AM

In short we're gonna be very high in rookie snaps again next year.

RunKC 01-11-2023 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16728405)
Nobody was expecting Watson to replace Ward. They were expecting McDuffie to do it and he did.

So now we're not talking about Powell or Chesson here - we're talking about Skyy Moore.

That's your backfill. You know more about him now than you knew about McDuffie when he took the field.

It's big boy pants time for Skyy. And JJSS is such a limited player who runs such basic routes, I see no reason why we couldn't put Moore in that role and get strong production if he's an NFL caliber receiver.

People keep bringing up Juju as the role that Skyy fits but I don’t think that’s the correct comparison.

It’s Watson. Justin Watson is doing everything that Skyy fits, which is some of the same things Juju does.


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