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RaidersOftheCellar 01-25-2023 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by VAChief (Post 16763038)
Sacks don't matter as much against this offense. Burrow was sacked 9 times last year in the divisional round and still won.

You have to get them off the field on 3rd down (whether sacks, PBU's, great tackling) more than they do the same against our offense.

Do that and you win.

They won that game because the Titans couldn't score. Cincinnati had 19 pts in 12 drives. If they score at that rate Sunday, the Chiefs will win handily.

KCJake 01-25-2023 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by wachashi (Post 16761843)
The Bengals had four new offensive linemen to start the year, so I'm sure it took time for them to mesh and learn the protections.

Aren't a bunch of them hurt right now ? Didn't seem to matter last week. Maybe the bad field conditions slowed down the Bills pass rush

wachashi 01-25-2023 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by KCJake (Post 16763074)
Aren't a bunch of them hurt right now ? Didn't seem to matter last week. Maybe the bad field conditions slowed down the Bills pass rush

Yes, they were missing three of their starters last week. The question in the OP was about why their pass protection improved so much after the first 8 weeks of the season. A possible explanation is that they got better with more experience as a unit.

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In weeks 1 through 8 Burrow was sacked 29 times. Since week 9 Burrow has only been sacked 17 times in 10 games. The only game during that time frame where he was sacked more than 2 times was the WC game against the Ravens, in which they sacked him 4 times.

smithandrew051 01-25-2023 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by wachashi (Post 16763063)
The group that played last week against the Bills is essentially a different offensive line than they played with all year. I think run blocking is their strength, especially compared to their pass blocking. They may not be great, but it's clear to me the Bengals coaching staff played to their strengths last week.

Does that say more about the Bengals or Bills though?

Because the Bengals OL was terrible in all aspects against the Ravens.

Burrow was hit 8 times, sacked 4 times.

Mixon had 11 carries for 39 yards. Perine had 2 carries for 3 yards. Burrow ran 5 times for 9 yards. As a team, they averaged 2.8 yards per carry with a long run of 11 yards (that 11 yard run accounted for 20% of their rushing yards on the day).

The Bengals OL performance against the Bills reminded me a lot of when the Chiefs gashed them with CEH and a line of Fisher, Allegretti, Kilgore, Wylie, and Remmers. That turned out to be absolute fools gold though.

I understand why everyone would want to look at the most recent game, but expanding the sample size tells a different story about the Bengals OL.

DJ's left nut 01-25-2023 12:29 PM

In a lot of ways, their OL's performance on a slick track (which always favors the line, IMO, as it impacts the DL's get-off) may instill some false confidence in them.

Then again, I thought I read there was a chance they may be getting Williams and Cappa back this weekend.

But yeah - I'll take my chances against that patchwork mess they sent out there against Buffalo. If they think that's the level of performance they're going to get from those guys, I feel like they could be in for a rude awakening.

{fingers crossed}

smithandrew051 01-25-2023 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16763207)
In a lot of ways, their OL's performance on a slick track (which always favors the line, IMO, as it impacts the DL's get-off) may instill some false confidence in them.

Then again, I thought I read there was a chance they may be getting Williams and Cappa back this weekend.

But yeah - I'll take my chances against that patchwork mess they sent out there against Buffalo. If they think that's the level of performance they're going to get from those guys, I feel like they could be in for a rude awakening.

{fingers crossed}

Like we’ve said before, the past performances agains the Bengals OL by our front both rushing the passer and stopping the run have been inexcusable.

They need to make it right this week. It’s a very reasonable task considering the OL they’ll face.

wachashi 01-25-2023 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16763166)
Does that say more about the Bengals or Bills though?

Because the Bengals OL was terrible in all aspects against the Ravens.

Burrow was hit 8 times, sacked 4 times.

Mixon had 11 carries for 39 yards. Perine had 2 carries for 3 yards. Burrow ran 5 times for 9 yards. As a team, they averaged 2.8 yards per carry with a long run of 11 yards (that 11 yard run accounted for 20% of their rushing yards on the day).

The Bengals OL performance against the Bills reminded me a lot of when the Chiefs gashed them with CEH and a line of Fisher, Allegretti, Kilgore, Wylie, and Remmers. That turned out to be absolute fools gold though.

I understand why everyone would want to look at the most recent game, but expanding the sample size tells a different story about the Bengals OL.

The Bengals lost RT Collins week 16. They lost RG Cappa week 18. They lost LT Williams in the wildcard round.

If you want to see how the Bengals coaching staff puts together an offensive game plan down those three guys, there's only one game to look at. Against the Bills, they saw success running the ball and with quick throws.

I'm not saying they're an elite run-blocking unit. They're just more comfortable there. The Bills rushed 19 times for 63 yards (3.3 yards/carry) while the Bengals ran for 172 yards on 34 attempts (5.1 yards/carry).

RaidersOftheCellar 01-25-2023 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16763166)
Does that say more about the Bengals or Bills though?

Because the Bengals OL was terrible in all aspects against the Ravens.

Burrow was hit 8 times, sacked 4 times.

Mixon had 11 carries for 39 yards. Perine had 2 carries for 3 yards. Burrow ran 5 times for 9 yards. As a team, they averaged 2.8 yards per carry with a long run of 11 yards (that 11 yard run accounted for 20% of their rushing yards on the day).

The Bengals OL performance against the Bills reminded me a lot of when the Chiefs gashed them with CEH and a line of Fisher, Allegretti, Kilgore, Wylie, and Remmers. That turned out to be absolute fools gold though.

I understand why everyone would want to look at the most recent game, but expanding the sample size tells a different story about the Bengals OL.

Yep. To have a QB who gets the ball out fast but still allow 8 hits and 4 sacks is terrible.

Chris Jones needs to feast and get his first sack. 2-3 wouldn’t hurt.

Gravedigger 01-25-2023 01:04 PM

Man why'd Tyler Huntley have to fumble it on the goal line... would've saved us such a headache.

htismaqe 01-25-2023 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravedigger (Post 16763321)
Man why'd Tyler Huntley have to fumble it on the goal line... would've saved us such a headache.

Nah. We would have had to play the Bills on a neutral field.

This is EXACTLY what we want - the Chiefs as an underdog at home. They're going to win.

ChiTown 01-25-2023 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16763330)
Nah. We would have had to play the Bills on a neutral field.

This is EXACTLY what we want - the Chiefs as an underdog at home. They're going to win.

Yeah, this couldn't have worked out better for us. AFCCG in Arrowhead with the opportunity to exact our revenge against Home Alone and the Gang.

scho63 01-25-2023 01:12 PM

We need 3-4 sacks and a lot of pressure on Sunday.

If we get little pressure and no sacks, we are in trouble.

IowaHawkeyeChief 01-25-2023 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16763330)
Nah. We would have had to play the Bills on a neutral field.

This is EXACTLY what we want - the Chiefs as an underdog at home. They're going to win.

I think the Jags beat the Bills if that would have happened...

RaidersOftheCellar 01-25-2023 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravedigger (Post 16763321)
Man why'd Tyler Huntley have to fumble it on the goal line... would've saved us such a headache.

Don't be a wuss. It's time to put these dogs down.

DJ's left nut 01-25-2023 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 16763525)
I think the Jags beat the Bills if that would have happened...

Agreed.

That Bills team was simply done. And then they flat embarrassed themselves.


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