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alpha_omega 03-01-2023 03:37 PM

We’ve discussed this before and I’m still out.

MahomesMagic 03-01-2023 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16832780)
There's a reason that if we made this move all of the other fans would like mother ****er! and complain.

DHop has a confrontational personality. He is not a good soldier on a losing team.

So KC has a position that not every team can have here.

To be honest, DHop and Toney would get along great. I think Toney would learn a lot from him.

tredadda 03-01-2023 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16832475)
Of course you could also view it this way...

How often do you get a chance to win 2 in a row and adding Hopkins to the offense makes this team that much harder to deal with.

Depends on his cost from a picks/salary perspective. KC still needs to address LT, which will be possibly trading up which will cost picks or pay Brown Jr. which will not be cheap. They also need to pay Jones, will need to address RT as well. Not against Hopkins, especially if we get him cheap. If not then pass as this team won it this year with JAGS at WR.

Megatron96 03-01-2023 03:42 PM

I still highly doubt DHop ends up in KC.

However, he's that dude. he's kind of the best of Sammy Watkins in terms of his ability to be a YAC monster. Almost Jerry Rice-esque ability to beat press man as well as find the soft spots in zones, and make catches under duress, but with Stefon Diggs' huge catch radius and elite hands. He's also one of the best situational receivers, similar to Travis, in his ability to see the coverage and make route adjustments on the fly; he can play beyond the Xs and Os.

Even at 30, you're kind of getting the 'lite' versions of those receivers physically, but with those ridiculous hands.

BWillie 03-01-2023 03:44 PM

Chiefsplanet believes Kelce will still be producing when he's 50. No need to upgrade over Kadarius Toney and MVS. Lets just pay the fat guy and try to keep on trucking.

JohnnyHammersticks 03-01-2023 03:44 PM

We paid JuJu + MVS somewhere around $20M last season with incentives.

Just saying... :shrug:

DO IT VEACH, BACK-TO-BACK LFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MahomesMagic 03-01-2023 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks (Post 16832812)
We paid JuJu + MVS somewhere around $20M last season with incentives.

Just saying... :shrug:

DO IT VEACH, BACK-TO-BACK LFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Other NFL Defensive Coordinators...

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ForeverIowan 03-01-2023 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16832780)
There's a reason that if we made this move all of the other fans would like mother ****er! and complain.

This is where I am at as well. You give Andy Reid an offense consisting of Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelce and DHop in addition to a complete wildcard and lottery ticket in Toney...my goodness...good luck to the rest of the league. Ill take the Chiefs over the field for the SB winner next year.

Reid traded for Terrell Owens at 30 years old...just sayin...DHop is 30.

stumppy 03-01-2023 03:51 PM

Nope, need better defense.

BWillie 03-01-2023 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by stumppy (Post 16832825)
Nope, need better defense.

Offenses win championships

Historical defenses give up 38 to the Chiefs

JohnnyHammersticks 03-01-2023 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 16832821)
Other NFL Defensive Coordinators...

https://media.tenor.com/images/a0b4e...6bd89e381d/raw

Mere rumors of it already made Leslie Frazier quit.

ToxSocks 03-01-2023 04:04 PM

If he were a free agent? Sure. If the Cards would trade him for a 4th or later? Sure.

But this is really just Benji throwing shit at the wall as we've effectively become the new Patriots: Aging star talent looking to revitalize his career, lets just assume he'll go to KC!

But this doesn't fit Veach's M.O at all. Trade a top 3 round draft pick for an aging, expensive player? Since when do the Chiefs do that? They don't.

stumppy 03-01-2023 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16832835)
Offenses win championships

Historical defenses give up 38 to the Chiefs

Chiefs had to scored 38 to the Eagles 35. Defense too often seems to be balanced on a knifes edge of losing the game.

Mecca 03-01-2023 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by stumppy (Post 16832855)
Chiefs had to scored 38 to the Eagles 35. Defense too often seems to be balanced on a knifes edge of losing the game.

It really doesn't matter how good your defense is in todays game, you aren't winning games 17-13.

smithandrew051 03-01-2023 04:11 PM

With the way Veach has been drafting, I’m all for keeping the capital unless you come across a Toney type of situation (value plus cost controlled years).


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