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RunKC 11-17-2023 11:29 AM

McDuffie is that guy. He was vital in the Bengals AFCCG. I'd argue Bolton is viewed by the team as that too.

Karlaftis and Rice could be on their way. They both have potential

MahomesMagic 11-17-2023 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17227901)
Sign the elite players you have, let teh good players walk and draft more good players. Simple formula right?

That's not what people want though.

Don't most CPers want Chris Jones gone?

ShortRoundChief 11-17-2023 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17228014)
That's not what people want though.

Don't most CPers want Chris Jones gone?

No. They don't want to lose a ton of talent or the opportunity to improve at the cost of keeping one guy who wants to break the bank.

O.city 11-17-2023 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 17228003)
As he should. I will never understand this mentality. Why should every player max out his earnings? It's not like they're making pennies out there. They're still getting millions. And before you start with the millionaires vs billionaires narrative, that isn't the case at all. There is this thing called the CBA. The CBA sets a salary cap and a salary floor. Most teams, including the Chiefs, are up against that cap every year. So the extra money going to top players isn't affecting the owners in the lear. They're spending that money anyway. The ones being affected are the blue collar type guys that are contributing every week. Those guys are taking less because the stars are taking most of what is available. Don't get me wrong. I want to see Sneed get paid. But I don't think that he's going to have trouble taking care of his family if he gets $10M per year instead of $18M per year. But if we pay him $18M, who is going to have to lose their job because there's not enough money left?

He's a 4th round pick, who' has played on a cheap contract for 4 years.

He should get the most money he can in the next contract, it may be his only time to cash in.

It's not his job to determine who gets paid and who doesn't, that's the GM.

O.city 11-17-2023 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17228007)
McDuffie is that guy. He was vital in the Bengals AFCCG. I'd argue Bolton is viewed by the team as that too.

Karlaftis and Rice could be on their way. They both have potential

There was another guy on the defense that was vital in that game, that you don't care to keep around.

I'd guess the team views him as that as well.

MahomesMagic 11-17-2023 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 17228015)
No. They don't want to lose a ton of talent or the opportunity to improve at the cost of keeping one guy who wants to break the bank.



Chris Jones is one of the 3 Elite, HOF players on the roster.

The other HOF player was traded.

If you don't want to sign your best players to instead fill the roster out with guys that are good but not special, just say that's what you want to do.

Chris Meck 11-17-2023 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17228021)
Chris Jones is one of the 3 Elite, HOF players on the roster.

The other HOF player was traded.

If you don't want to sign your best players to instead fill the roster out with guys that are good but not special, just say that's what you want to do.

If you want to fill out your roster with guys like Dan Sorensen because you're paying most of your cap for two or three guys just say so.

Chief Pagan 11-17-2023 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17228034)
If you want to fill out your roster with guys like Dan Sorensen because you're paying most of your cap for two or three guys just say so.

And you are in even more of a world of pain if one of those three high paid guys becomes day to day or loses his spirit.

Chris Meck 11-17-2023 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 17228042)
And you are in even more of a world of pain if one of those three high paid guys becomes day to day or loses his spirit.

I don't want to not have Chris Jones.

But I understand that Mahomes on two legs plus the best 52 is probably the best shot at winning it all in any and all seasons.

RunKC 11-17-2023 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17228021)
Chris Jones is one of the 3 Elite, HOF players on the roster.

The other HOF player was traded.

If you don't want to sign your best players to instead fill the roster out with guys that are good but not special, just say that's what you want to do.

Chris turns 30 next year and averages 9 sacks a year outside of money years where he's trying to get paid. He's kn pace for 10 sacks this year and I'd argue last year was his peak and a steady decline is coming soon.

Is 10 sacks a year worth a $30 million anchor? Him and Mahomes alone are just under 30% of this years cap. That's with Mahomes still being cheap.

Keep in mind Mahomes cap hit jumps $20 million from $37 million to $57 million. Even if the cap moves up, Mahomes is still gonna account for 20% of the cap by himself. Now add Chris and his massive contract which would likely make it over 30% of the cap on 2 guys.

Not ideal to do that for a depreciating asset when you can trade that asset and use the assets gained to get a shiny new WR in the first rd and have money left over to keep building the team.

tredadda 11-17-2023 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17228034)
If you want to fill out your roster with guys like Dan Sorensen because you're paying most of your cap for two or three guys just say so.

Not if you just turn off the salary cap like in Madden.

AdolfOliverBush 11-17-2023 12:16 PM

In my amateur opinion, Jones makes the entire DL function just by being on the field. Does Sneed do the same for the DBs? I don't see it. I like Sneed as a player, but he's no unicorn.

Chris Meck 11-17-2023 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17228052)
Not if you just turn off the salary cap like in Madden.

I think there's a lot of Madden and fantasy football guys on the board.

I get it, it's fun, but it's not real.

Chris Meck 11-17-2023 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush (Post 17228056)
In my amateur opinion, Jones makes the entire DL function just by being on the field. Does Sneed do the same for the DBs? I don't see it. I like Sneed as a player, but he's no unicorn.

Love Jonesy. Can't pay him $30m per.

O.city 11-17-2023 12:25 PM

They're not gonna be able to tag and trade him. The time to have traded him was last offseason. It's either a new contract, or more likely, he hits the market.


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