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ChiefsCountry 04-06-2024 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 17473755)
The BEST solution to this whole thing:

1. The Royals get a new boutique stadium downtown. 37,500-40,000 max attendence. Needs some type of public transit option such as light rail.

2. The Chiefs get some improvements to stadium and rearrange the parking for better access.

3. Build a concert facility further away from Arrowhead that shares the parking lot. This way it becomes the Truman Sports and Entertainment Complex.

4. Allow a few hotels to be built there as well.

5. During summer they can do car shows, carnivals, flea markets and plenty of other events during summer months when there is no football to maximize the property.

Any downside to this?
Truman Sports Complex is still in a shit location.

Woogieman 04-06-2024 03:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 17473755)
The BEST solution to this whole thing:

1. The Royals get a new boutique stadium downtown. 37,500-40,000 max attendence. Needs some type of public transit option such as light rail.

2. The Chiefs get some improvements to stadium and rearrange the parking for better access.

3. Build a concert facility further away from Arrowhead that shares the parking lot. This way it becomes the Truman Sports and Entertainment Complex.

4. Allow a few hotels to be built there as well.

5. During summer they can do car shows, carnivals, flea markets and plenty of other events during summer months when there is no football to maximize the property.

Any downside to this?
Only one...include a sports book to one of the hotels, hell, throw in a few craps tables if they want!

KCUnited 04-06-2024 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Woogieman (Post 17473761)
Only one...include a sports book to one of the hotels, hell, throw in a few craps tables if they want!
Put it in the stadium like BetMGM and State Farm

Woogieman 04-06-2024 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 17473760)
Truman Sports Complex is still in a shit location.
Yes, but so is every casino in town when they were built. The casinos didn't give those areas a facelift, but people still come and definitely attend concerts and shows there.

Woogieman 04-06-2024 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 17473764)
Put it in the stadium like BetMGM and State Farm
TBH, I wonder if they would get any action, since if sports betting is legal, would people just use their phones?

KCUnited 04-06-2024 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Woogieman (Post 17473768)
TBH, I wonder if they would get any action, since if sports betting is legal, would people just use their phones?
Its like a casino sports book so viewing, bar/restaurant, open 365. So an option for people not interested in tailgating but want something to do before the game

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The BetMGM Sportsbook at State Farm Stadium is now open and located just steps from the North end of the Great Lawn. The 17,000 square foot venue is the first sportsbook in NFL history and combines the energy and viewing options of a state-of the-art sportsbook with all the amenities of a world-class sports bar and grill. The sportsbook features a 265 square-foot video wall, over 35 high-definition televisions as well as offers both indoor and outdoor dining options. Sports fans and bettors can conveniently choose their preferred wagering method as the space features five traditional sports betting windows and an additional 27 user-friendly self-service betting kiosks.

Open 365 days a year! Game day reservations are encouraged and conveniently accessible to reserve online.

MarkDavis'Haircut 04-06-2024 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17473728)
Yeah, sometimes you have to rise above your own principles and figure out if it's really what you want... billionaires will keep being billionaires, but is it worth $140/year to have a football team in town while driving around those unrepaired potholes. :shrug:
Those unrepaired potholes will remain if a football team is there or not.

Woogieman 04-06-2024 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 17473770)
Its like a casino sports book so viewing, bar/restaurant, open 365. So an option for people not interested in tailgating but want something to do before the game
I'll check that out...I wonder how much of a cut the Cardinals get? I wonder how hard it would be for Hunt Midwest to get a gaming license.

Chief Pagan 04-06-2024 03:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 17473755)
The BEST solution to this whole thing:

1. The Royals get a new boutique stadium downtown. 37,500-40,000 max attendence. Needs some type of public transit option such as light rail.

2. The Chiefs get some improvements to stadium and rearrange the parking for better access.

3. Build a concert facility further away from Arrowhead that shares the parking lot. This way it becomes the Truman Sports and Entertainment Complex.

4. Allow a few hotels to be built there as well.

5. During summer they can do car shows, carnivals, flea markets and plenty of other events during summer months when there is no football to maximize the property.

Any downside to this?
So I've been to Arrowhead, but it has been a while.

How viable is it really trying to develop hotels, concerts, flea markets in that area?

Chief Pagan 04-06-2024 03:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 17473760)
Truman Sports Complex is still in a shit location.
Or is this my answer?

ChiefsCountry 04-06-2024 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 17473785)
Or is this my answer?
It's just a bad area for development. If it had any real value, it would have been done in the past 50 years.

Would be a great spot for an Amazon distribution center or something of the like though.

Woogieman 04-06-2024 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 17473785)
Or is this my answer?
It is viable for events and concerts...would you rather travel to Bonner SPings for an outdoor concert or a revamped Kaufmann (if you're in Shawnee, I get it). Would you prefer to go to a casino on the riverfront on the Randoph/Birmingham strip, or TSC? All the locations suck, but people have contninued to go for a quarter century. Hotels would not be viable without gambling imho.

neech 04-06-2024 03:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 17473755)
The BEST solution to this whole thing:

1. The Royals get a new boutique stadium downtown. 37,500-40,000 max attendence. Needs some type of public transit option such as light rail.

2. The Chiefs get some improvements to stadium and rearrange the parking for better access.

3. Build a concert facility further away from Arrowhead that shares the parking lot. This way it becomes the Truman Sports and Entertainment Complex.

4. Allow a few hotels to be built there as well.

5. During summer they can do car shows, carnivals, flea markets and plenty of other events during summer months when there is no football to maximize the property.

Any downside to this?
Option 1 and 2 and maybe even 3 will want taxpayer money to fund them.

Chief Pagan 04-06-2024 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Woogieman (Post 17473791)
It is viable for events and concerts...would you rather travel to Bonner SPings for an outdoor concert or a revamped Kaufmann (if you're in Shawnee, I get it). Would you prefer to go to a casino on the riverfront on the Randoph/Birmingham strip, or TSC? All the locations suck, but people have contninued to go for a quarter century. Hotels would not be viable without gambling imho.
Well if taxpayers are putting up enough money, I suppose that could eventually change the calculation.

But as a concert/event developer, isn't the question usually what is the best site I can find? Not is this site slightly more viable than some other site...

All the locations suck for stadiums? Or there are no possible new locations for events and concerts that don't suck?

Pablo 04-06-2024 05:10 PM
So the Chiefs are gonna build an entertainment district at TSC or somewhere in KCMO proper with a sports book and all that fun stuff...

While people like myself that want to place bets still have to drive to Kansas to do so because MO house of reps is full of bumble****s that can't get a bill cleared despite hemorrhaging money to KS. Kinda like those dipshits in KS losing all that sweet weed money to MO. Diff sides of the same coin

Why not start this thing out in say Kansas, at the Legends?? Where you can already build a sportsbook into the stadium and they've got Hollywood Casino right there who's partnered with one of the major books?


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