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chiefzilla1501 06-11-2024 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 17547967)
This is exactly right. I think Toney has really good intentions and is probably a good dude, he's just not really all there. He kind of reminds me of Jamaal Charles.
True but Charles had outstanding football iq. Toney doesn’t, which is where they are also very different.

ShortRoundChief 06-11-2024 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ToxSocks (Post 17547945)
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What antics? It was revealed that his little IG tirade was directed at Giants fans, not the Chiefs.

What functions did he not attend? He was at the parade...he was celebrating with his team after the SB win...not sure what you're referring to.

Now, he didn't show up to voluntary OTA's, which is an odd move for him. I'll give you that.

But it's not like he's out there arguing with Pat on the sidelines, wrecking Lambos or getting involved in nightclub assaults. He's not out there getting caught with weed, failing drug tests, destroying his GF's electronics, making a spectacle of himself with politics or beating up appliances.
I would count starting a distraction prior to the superbowl as an antic. Enough so that he was a healthy scratch.

Celebrating a parade for a championship that arguably was despite of his play instead because of his play isn’t important. Improving and showing your commitment to the team is. When’s the last time he’s done that.

duncan_idaho 06-11-2024 10:27 AM
A: Start of Season

1. Brown
2. Watson
3. Worthy
4. Hardman
5. Moore
6. Toney
7. Remigio

I think they'll give Toney a chance out of the gate, especially if Rice starts the season suspended. Idea here would be he gets a trial with Rice out, and if he doesn't do much with it, you move on at that point. Same thing with Moore.

B: End of Season

1. Brown
2. Rice
3. Worthy
4. Watson
5. Hardman
6. Remigio

I'm seeing them tighten things up here, basically, as the season goes on.

Woogieman 06-11-2024 10:28 AM
I'd have a lot more confidence in Toney if he ever once demonstrated that football is his highest priority and greatness was his goal. There are a few examples of really good NFL players that got there with less than great focus and work ethic, even with superior physical traits. He has never demonstrated winning characteristics, and I don't think he starts now. Likely cut at some point in the season.

O.city 06-11-2024 10:29 AM
Guys that are always nicked up miss practice. That equals...well not ideal things.

chiefzilla1501 06-11-2024 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Woogieman (Post 17547984)
I'd have a lot more confidence in Toney if he ever once demonstrated that football is his highest priority and greatness was his goal. There are a few examples of really good NFL players that got there with less than great focus and work ethic, even with superior physical traits. He has never demonstrated winning characteristics, and I don't think he starts now. Likely cut at some point in the season.
He’s just fascinating because the dude plays tough and runs violently. Including the way he cuts. It’s actually probably the reason he can’t stay healthy. So I don’t know if we can even pin it on him not trying. I think it’s way more a focus thing and it’s on the field more than it is off it.

RunKC 06-11-2024 10:51 AM
Hot take: I think they trade Skyy for a day 3 pick in August. Some team will want to try with him being a 2nd rd pick (yes as dumb as that is it matters).

BigRedChief 06-11-2024 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17546968)
Locks:

Hollywood
Rice
Worthy
Watson

Battling for 2-3 spots:

Hardman
Remigio
Toney
Moore
Hardman is a lock. They didn’t bring him back to be training camp fodder. They’ll carry 7 WR’s again.

Gary Cooper 06-11-2024 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17546926)
I would think the following 5 are most likely making the roster:

Brown
Worthy
Rice
Toney
Hardman

The last one is a toss up, but I would lean towards:

Watson
Remigo
Moore
Mahomes likes Watson. He's made big plays for this team in key moments. I don't see him going anywhere. He's a perfect #4 for this team. Toney is more trouble than he's worth. Hardman's health has been an issue in the past but they're obviously keeping him around.

chiefzilla1501 06-11-2024 11:44 AM
I like Watson but he’s gotta be a role player when you want to take an aggressive first or second down mid range shot. He’s too inconsistent to be anything else. I especially love him on early down long yardage situations. But there can clearly be a good place for him

O.city 06-11-2024 11:50 AM
Watson is an ideal 4th WR. Everyone wants to run him off for whatever reason.

Mecca 06-11-2024 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17548112)
Watson is an ideal 4th WR. Everyone wants to run him off for whatever reason.
More like a 5 or 6 but he's a depth piece.

O.city 06-11-2024 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17548118)
More like a 5 or 6 but he's a depth piece.
Teams don't run 5 deep at WR.

He knows where to line up and can get open in a pinch. AKA 4th/5th whatever you wanna call it.

He also plays special teams.

Mecca 06-11-2024 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17548123)
Teams don't run 5 deep at WR.

He knows where to line up and can get open in a pinch. AKA 4th/5th whatever you wanna call it.

He also plays special teams.
Those are usually 5s or 6s unless you are carrying a guy who literally doesn't play at all.

chiefzilla1501 06-11-2024 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17548112)
Watson is an ideal 4th WR. Everyone wants to run him off for whatever reason.
I think our lack of quality depth forced him to go beyond his role. He’s ideally not a target eater. I dont know that he’s the guy you dial up for a critical 3rd down. But he’s a guy you can attack with some big play opps a few times a game.


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