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JPH83 12-19-2024 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17863071)
Kind of a terrible year for WR FA’s tbh. If not Hollywood then Elijah Moore is my preference with Dyami Brown as a lesser option.

Hollywood was cheap this year and fits this offense perfectly. Bring him back. He’s cheap

It's possibly even worse for LTs, and I don't think the draft is great. Suspect we'll have to overpay a vet for insurance AND draft another developmental OT for insurance policy. Lot of capital we've got to sink into that position.

Makes sense to move on from Smith. I like Omenihu but I don't think I'd.pay him what he wants. Would live Holywood back on a similar deal

O.city 12-19-2024 08:18 AM

We're in the spot where the positions we need aren't usually in FA and or are expensive and get drafted early.

I think we need to be bold again this offseason. If that means trading a guy or letting some guys walk etc. so be it.

smithandrew051 12-19-2024 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17864887)
We're in the spot where the positions we need aren't usually in FA and or are expensive and get drafted early.

I think we need to be bold again this offseason. If that means trading a guy or letting some guys walk etc. so be it.

If the Chiefs pull off the 3-peat, they’ve officially hit the highest peak of any team in NFL history. A record that won’t likely be broken any time soon, as you’d need 4 straight to surpass that.

I’m all for a significant reset if that happens. I wouldn’t oppose letting just about everyone walk in FA and trading away some guys.

It’s time to load up on picks and clear cap. Next season may be a good step back, but it’s for the best long term.

Couch-Potato 12-19-2024 07:54 PM

Hypothetically, what would you suspect Noah Gray’s stats would be like next year without Kelce?

JimNasium 12-20-2024 06:53 AM

I put this in another thread and my comment was largely panned by the collective genious [sic] of ChiefsPlanet. I truly believe that next year should be a mini-reset. Let’s get some roster churn going and get some young talent in here. It makes me nervous to think about bringing back/extending guys like Trey Smith, Bolton, Reid, Dhop. I don’t mind a few one year vet deals, but let’s take a breath after making NFL history and set this team up for another run with young players on first contracts.

smithandrew051 12-20-2024 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JimNasium (Post 17866127)
I put this in another thread and my comment was largely panned by the collective genious [sic] of ChiefsPlanet. I truly believe that next year should be a mini-reset. Let’s get some roster churn going and get some young talent in here. It makes me nervous to think about bringing back/extending guys like Trey Smith, Bolton, Reid, Dhop. I don’t mind a few one year vet deals, but let’s take a breath after making NFL history and set this team up for another run with young players on first contracts.

100% agree.

If you 3-peat, you’ve essential beaten the game at that point.

Nothing wrong with starting a new play through.

OKchiefs 12-20-2024 01:51 PM

They can do a reset, but do it at the expense of the defense. A reset cannot involve not immediately addressing the offense enough so that Mahomes continues his downward trajectory. Fix the tackle position, find a good running back, continue to add talent at receiver.

RunKC 12-20-2024 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 17866395)
They can do a reset, but do it at the expense of the defense. A reset cannot involve not immediately addressing the offense enough so that Mahomes continues his downward trajectory. Fix the tackle position, find a good running back, continue to add talent at receiver.

They did though. Unfortunately Rashee, Hollywood and Pacheco all got hurt.

OL has been bad at LT but the underlying problem is all of our explosion but Worthy was sitting on IR and replaced with older, slower declining veterans.

Really sucks that we never got to see Rice, Hollywood and Worthy together. Offense would look drastically different

smithandrew051 12-20-2024 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17866590)
They did though. Unfortunately Rashee, Hollywood and Pacheco all got hurt.

OL has been bad at LT but the underlying problem is all of our explosion but Worthy was sitting on IR and replaced with older, slower declining veterans.

Really sucks that we never got to see Rice, Hollywood and Worthy together. Offense would look drastically different

Which is why I don’t understand some of the Veach blame. He can’t control injuries. Especially, the freak Rice injury.

Maybe some blame for LT. I guess the Cam Robinson trade would’ve been the better move.

Couch-Potato 12-21-2024 11:15 AM

I’m growing increasingly concerned about the future of our OL. Thuney has 1 season left on his deal, Taylor has a team option after next season and isn’t the longterm answer, Trey Smith is the top FA in the league this offseason despite a down year, and LT has been a turnstile with no clear answer.

Feels like we might need another rebuild on the OL soon. We need answers at LT, at least one but maybe two guard spots, and could benefit from a RT upgrade. We have some guys developing but the uncertainty around these guys leaves room to bring in additional competition.

I’m thinking resign Trey Smith and draft OT in the 1st.

kccrow 12-21-2024 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17867119)
I’m growing increasingly concerned about the future of our OL. Thuney has 1 season left on his deal, Taylor has a team option after next season and isn’t the longterm answer, Trey Smith is the top FA in the league this offseason despite a down year, and LT has been a turnstile with no clear answer.

Feels like we might need another rebuild on the OL soon. We need answers at LT, at least one but maybe two guard spots, and could benefit from a RT upgrade. We have some guys developing but the uncertainty around these guys leaves room to bring in additional competition.

I’m thinking resign Trey Smith and draft OT in the 1st.

We just drafted two OGs in Nourzad and Hanson, have an UDFA OG with some promise in Mettauer, and can bring back Caliendo at OG who has been very solid. That's not even considering that Morris is probably best served moving inside. I'd say OG is not an issue. We do need to address OT. I do think that Suamataia develops and handles one of those spots, he has all the tools. Like his cousin, that may come at RT but we'll see.

Couch-Potato 12-21-2024 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17867141)
We just drafted two OGs in Nourzad and Hanson, have an UDFA OG with some promise in Mettauer, and can bring back Caliendo at OG who has been very solid. That's not even considering that Morris is probably best served moving inside. I'd say OG is not an issue. We do need to address OT. I do think that Suamataia develops and handles one of those spots, he has all the tools. Like his cousin, that may come at RT but we'll see.

Feeling better, thank you lol

A rock solid LT would really make me feel better though.

Chris Meck 12-21-2024 05:14 PM

You have to solve LT for at least a couple of years. You need a plus pass rusher to add to Jones/Karlaftis.

You need to build the secondary around Mcduffie, who will not be cheap.

You've got two young talented WR's in Rice and Worthy. You have some weaponry.

I think you have to figure out what the next era is going to be built around, and if it were me, I'd be building the offensive and defensive lines. Thing is, where we draft, we're going to have to pay for it in free agency.

Couch-Potato 12-22-2024 11:40 AM

Depending on where you look it seems like we’ll get a chance to draft one of the following OTs @ #32: Jones Jr, Milum, Williams, Ersery, Simmons, Savaiinaea, or Conley Jr.

Curious on CPs opinion of the above names? Are they developmental or bookend LTs? Who fits our offense best? Which will be out of reach and who’s most likely to fall to us?

Feels like we should target LT or Edge in the first.

pugsnotdrugs19 12-23-2024 08:49 AM

With McDuffie as cornerstone of the secondary plus Rice and Worthy here cheap for at least the next three or four years, yeah, I’d keep prioritizing the lines above all.

If the lines are good, with Mahomes you’re always gonna be in that mix of 4-5 legit SB contenders late in the year.


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