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ThrobProng 03-20-2025 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 18004242)
The simplest answer is that the aliens that created us also created the pyramids.

And that is why we still worship them. Why all ancient cultures worshipped them.

THAT'S the simplest answer? LMAO

Aliens that can traverse the galaxy come to our nothing planet to assemble a pile of rocks for a bunch of hairless apes? Seems legit.

DJ's left nut 03-20-2025 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by seamonster (Post 18004243)
LOL. That was twelve thousand years ago. Twelve thousand years ago the average human is trying not to starve to death and hunting game with sticks and Egypt was a hundred or so years separated from being a tropical savanna.

Then - like now - the 'average human' meant ****-all in the grand scheme of things.

Nobody gives a shit what the average human was doing back then. Average humans don't drive this stuff.

The question is the human capacity for greatness and I think it existed then as much as it exists now.

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Doesn't compute in my brain that hunter gatherers infected with parasites and unable to grow crops could build eighteen foot tall stone support columns.
I direct you to my comment above.

Hammock Parties 03-20-2025 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ThrobProng (Post 18004265)
THAT'S the simplest answer? LMAO

Aliens that can traverse the galaxy come to our nothing planet to assemble a pile of rocks for a bunch of hairless apes? Seems legit.

They needed a way to navigate from space to check on their science experiment.

Woogieman 03-20-2025 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 18004242)
The simplest answer is that the aliens that created us also created the pyramids.

And that is why we still worship them. Why all ancient cultures worshipped them.

There are a lot more valid questions than valid answers imho. I read "The Atlantis Blueprint" by Wilson & Flem-Ath when it came out in 2000, and it uncovered all (or at least compiled) all the mathematical brilliance/mystery of the Giza pyramids and how they used Fibonacci numbers (long before it was named) and celestial alignment, and their placement in relation to the earth's land mass. I haven't changed my mind a bit in 25 years...humans, if civilzation began with the Sumerians in 4000 bce at the earliest, in no way could pull off the construction of multiple pyramids in the center of the earth's land mass, using near perfect footprints, Orion algnment, the Fibonacci sequence etc. It takes a long time to accumulate that much knowledge...I wonder if we will ever find evidence of the glithed sites where the builders got it wrong and had to scrap the whole damned thing and start over!

htismaqe 03-20-2025 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 18004230)
It's gonna be funny if one of these days we find out that radio carbon dating is just quack science.

Because man, Gobekli Tepe put the world on its ear. NOBODY saw anything that old being that advanced.

(Because again, we seem to think that everyone back in pre-recorded history was stupid or something. I guess that'll happen when we keep saying we descended from Apes...)

Radio carbon dating is actually not as valuable as we think it is. It's not straight up quack science but it was any solid science either.

DJ's left nut 03-20-2025 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Woogieman (Post 18004252)
Yep...the current "Timeline of Man" will one day look like a 1950s Food Pyramid with it's non-existent understanding of fats, and that eggs will kill you due to cholesterol spikes. Maybe we are getting dumber??

Man, I read an article a few years back where they tried to go into the expansion of the universe and how that expansion, when combined with the necessary changes in properties of matter and energy, actually supports the idea that time has slowed down SUBSTANTIALLY over several thousand years. Like, the speed of light was THOUSANDS of times faster then than it is now because there was so much more energy in the universe.

Essentially the argument was that decay and everything else was greater then because the levels of energy that existed in the universe at that time was substantially greater as well.

The conclusions were that radio carbon dating could be off by exponential levels IF the math has changed over the course of thousands of years due to simple entropy.

It was fascinating but just batshit enough (and beyond my baseline understanding of physics enough) that I found it quaint fodder for conversation but nothing that was going to fundamentally alter my outlook on life.

So I'm not saying that's a correct read on things, but I am saying that it's a hell of a lot more likely than not that we've overlooked something like that which would make everything we've ever thought we've known fundamentally wrong.

Woogieman 03-20-2025 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ThrobProng (Post 18004265)
THAT'S the simplest answer? LMAO

Aliens that can traverse the galaxy come to our nothing planet to assemble a pile of rocks for a bunch of hairless apes? Seems legit.

The more we understand about quantum mechanics, string theory, relativity, and dark matter, the more likely it is that "aliens" are more likely "us" from a parllel universe. A different universe, a better universe, one where the Chiefs traded up two spots in 2010 and drafted Trent Williams.

htismaqe 03-20-2025 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 18004267)
They needed a way to navigate from space to check on their science experiment.

So they used a pile of stones to navigate despite the fact that arriving here in the first place would have required faster-than-light travel. Come on, man.

Woogieman 03-20-2025 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 18004274)
Radio carbon dating is actually not as valuable as we think it is. It's not straight up quack science but it was any solid science either.

If only it was capapble of dating rocks!

DJ's left nut 03-20-2025 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 18004274)
Radio carbon dating is actually not as valuable as we think it is. It's not straight up quack science but it was any solid science either.

I mean something as (relatively) basic as Relativity tore apart our understanding of time.

125 years ago none of this stuff was even remotely discussed. Time was time; the same as it has ever been and will ever be.

We know essentially a fraction of what we need to know to fully understand Relativity and even that small amount of information subjects every single bit of our understanding of historical time to scrutiny.

Once time became variable, all bets were off. And even Relativity as we understand it is unlikely to survive another 100 years. Someone will rip that asunder as well.

Hammock Parties 03-20-2025 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 18004280)
So they used a pile of stones to navigate despite the fact that arriving here in the first place would have required faster-than-light travel. Come on, man.

Their technology was placed atop the stones.

DJ's left nut 03-20-2025 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Woogieman (Post 18004279)
The more we understand about quantum mechanics, string theory, relativity, and dark matter, the more likely it is that "aliens" are more likely "us" from a parllel universe. A different universe, a better universe, one where the Chiefs traded up two spots in 2010 and drafted Trent Williams.

String theory and multiple dimensions is where I always pull the ejection handle.

It's how I know I've reached the level of my intellect and imagination. Anything I have to say on that topic is almost certainly bullshit. So I generally just tap out.

It's remarkable, remarkable stuff. And again, calls into question anything and everything we've ever thought we've understood about the universe.

RunKC 03-20-2025 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 18004115)
Exactly this.

We are constantly discovering new evidence that proves ancient people were a lot smarter than we thought. How did they build the pyramids? How did Danes and Norsemen make it to Newfoundland in what amounts to modern day fishing boats? There's hundreds of examples in history of human ingenuity far beyond anything we previously believed.

“The Great Pyramid of Giza exhibits a remarkable alignment with the cardinal points (north, south, east, and west), with its sides deviating only a fraction of a degree”

These guys were incredibly accurate and precise. They had to have been significantly smarter than we ever gave them credit for. Of course we are technologically smart, but they understand math and physics as well as we do.

A chamber dug nearly half a mile beneath the Earth is an incredible feat. It’s unbelievable for their time. I’m not saying Aliens helped them bc I don’t believe in Aliens.

I hope they can find a way to get down there via drone of other technology. I’m fascinated to see what the hell could be down there.

Xlibutscrale 03-20-2025 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 18004280)
So they used a pile of stones to navigate despite the fact that arriving here in the first place would have required faster-than-light travel. Come on, man.

YOU NEVER PLAYED WITH LEGOS?

Woogieman 03-20-2025 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 18004276)
Man, I read an article a few years back where they tried to go into the expansion of the universe and how that expansion, when combined with the necessary changes in properties of matter and energy, actually supports the idea that time has slowed down SUBSTANTIALLY over several thousand years. Like, the speed of light was THOUSANDS of times faster then than it is now because there was so much more energy in the universe.

Essentially the argument was that decay and everything else was greater then because the levels of energy that existed in the universe at that time was substantially greater as well.

The conclusions were that radio carbon dating could be off by exponential levels IF the math has changed over the course of thousands of years due to simple entropy.

It was fascinating but just batshit enough (and beyond my baseline understanding of physics enough) that I found it quaint fodder for conversation but nothing that was going to fundamentally alter my outlook on life.

So I'm not saying that's a correct read on things, but I am saying that it's a hell of a lot more likely than not that we've overlooked something like that which would make everything we've ever thought we've known fundamentally wrong.

Mind-boggling! There is a Cosmology professor from Ariz St that is an "expert" on Inflation who claims the universe has stopped expanding in some areas, but is still expanding in others. So that REALLY screws up time in our universe! One area, possibly inhabited by intelligent life is aging at warp speed, while others like Keith Richards. I don't like many TV shows, so I mostly watch science and history...they make you feel really dumb. They make you feel like Dextor Manley sitting for the SAT.


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