If Tony Gonzalez goes for anything less than a 2nd (and from the Giants I'm talking the Saints 2nd)...it's a bad trade. Plain and simple.

This franchise in in disarray...to say the least...trading the face of the franchise for a 4th round pick in the middle of the worst season they have endured in almost 20 years isn't going to get people back on that season ticket bandwagon...

Nah, I'm not worried about Croyle not having Gonzalez...Croyle doesn't target him like Huard does...Croyle looks for the open receiver rather than just praying Tony Gonzalez makes a great catch.

If Huard was still our starting QB him not having Gonzalez would be a huge negative...Huard and GrBac have that strange chemistry with Tony Gonzalez...I never really thought Trent and Tony were on that exact same page...Tony always produced, don't get me wrong, but last season and the season before that...Tony always saw a TON of targets when Huard was in the game...I'm not going to look it up...but I guarantee you that in 2006 the games Huard started Tony had more targets than in the games Trent Green started.

I'd consider trading Tony for the pick that can land Chase Coffman in KC.

Tony in there draws coverage away from the WRs. He usually has double coverage in the middle which frees up WRs on the outside. Huard doesn't look that far 'cause from the center of the field to the sideline at the LOS is getting a little far from him to throw.

You really post some dumb things sometimes.

It doesn't really matter, in case you weren't watching, we didn't have one offensive play that mattered in the opposing team's territory last Sunday.

We drafted a TE in the 3rd round...time to see what we can get out of our superstar...if nothing else, for his benefit.

Tony is worth far more to this franchise than a worthless late 6th round pick. This guy is CLUTCH in the red zone with a competent QB to get the ball to him. He's worth no less than a low second or a high third in my book.

You post dumb stuff all the time. Go ahead and keep mouthing off to me, you're safe. But one of these days your mouth is going to write a check to someone your body won't be able to cash. When that day comes, lots of people are going to laugh at you.

It was a dumb post, Pastor. Own up to it.

And you never learned about the use of exageration for point in your composition classes?


:rolleyes:

Trent would look for Kennison and Priest also..

Huard stares at one person.. that is it..

"Exageration" is not a word. WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW?

He is working, newfound confidence..

He still needs his ass kicked royally to finish off his transformation..

Well from fat worthless douche to chubby worthless douche..

and your point is? In no way did I ever say that Huard was a better QB than Trent Green...all I was saying was, without Gonzalez, Huard would be 250 times less effective (approximately) and even more worthless than he already is.

I don't see why...

Any QB would be less effective when your only good player is traded

Dude, I seriously doubt you will every reach the stature that requires me to have my personal secretary to proof read what I type to you.

Because you are still a little dumbass.

Are you saying your secretary is your god?

I am going to start praying to your secretary...I am sure it will work as well as any other god...

Heh, I'd be willing to bet that my secretary, could take care of kicking his tail. She's pretty tough and can throw a really good punch for a 130 pound woman.

I guess you're not quite understanding my point.

is this turning into an e-fight?

Just so you know, Mr. GoChiefs, insulting a person's religion is unseemly.

Why don't you make fun of his car, instead?

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You seem to be a "pastor" with awfully violent tendencies. Are you sure this is really what god wants to see from one of his holy men? Get back behind the barbecue, "pastor," and churn out some more ribs for your "congregation."

Hard to make fun of a 2008 Nissan Titan 4x4 when you're driving your grandma's hand-me-down Oldsmobile.

It's also a little far for him to see, Mr. PastorMikH. The guy is 87, you know.

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I seriously doubt it.

Truthation.

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LOL

Someone rename this clown "Midnight Pastor."

you guys are ridiculous...

For someone who "sucks" as much as Clayton allegedly does, you all certainly focus a lot of attention on him.

FWIW, tonight is the first time in a long time that I have acknowledged his posts.

I should call out your dumb posts more, I suppose?

yeah, and Herm ****ing Edwards was a 4th, whats your point/

STFU GoChiefs, You have posted more dumb shit than anyone on thsi fucking board.

God damn you need to grow the fuck up boy.

If the Chiefs had half a brain they would wait until the offseason to unload TG. That way the remaining un-charged signing bonus would hit the books next year and we would not be forced to sign a free agent to avoid the minimum salary cap in 2009.

Kind of how I feel about it. When I first heard I actually thought we might be able to get a first or second round pick -- I mean say what you want about his age he's still way productive. I know a first is dreaming but a third (or less)? C'mon...

She wasn't all that.
:p

Your hand and wrist sore?

Yet the Chiefs start the negotiations asking for a 3rd. :banghead: Lunacy!

Carl is an idiot

Amazing how people can just pick out certain words. What I said was:

Key words – “so far on his way”.

Lets compare sack stats through 4 years:
Kevin Greene: 46.5 (0* records not kept, 7, 6.5, 16.5, 16.5)
Bruce Smith: 44.5 (6.5, 15, 12, 11)
JA: 43 sacks (9, 11, 7.5, 15.5)
John Abraham: 33.5 (4.5, 13, 10, 6)
Michael Strahan: 31 (4.5, 7.5, 5, 14 - *excludes 1st season, 1 sack in 9 games)

http://forums.theganggreen.com/showthread.php?t=36824


I'd think this would be a decent fit for him.

The JETS would be a decent fit, except don't they have a very suspect O-Line and they aren't a true SB contender; good offensive fit though.

The Jets just spent a first round pick on a TE, I doubt they would give up anything of value for Gonzo.

The vikings would be smart to bring in gonzo

Yeah after we got them bad for JA who isn't doing much....

I have my doubts they would seriously look.... the prospect of a better overall pick for us would be good.:D

How about the Cowboys? The must be in desperation mode? Double TE sets with Gonzo and Witten.

I'm getting sick of idiots(sorry Frankie) saying this is stupid. If CP would have asked for a 1 or 2, all 31 other teams would have laughed in his face. 3rd, not so bad. People start to think, it brings out only the serious shoppers. While haggling, they get used to and even start to like the idea of TG in their uniform. Another team out bids them, and they say, "If we had him, we might actually have a chance THIS YEAR, if not, surely next year."

The bidding war that ensues drives up the cost.

Let's recap.

Giants low ball the offer, typical, I do it too. Then someone comes in and says, yanno a 3rd ain't bad. Then another team comes and says, a 3rd and a 6th. Finally, maybe someone offers you a second for a guy who at most has 4 900-1000 yd. seasons left in him.

I think CP has done well.

Chiefs fans reading about the team asking for a third rounder and "the Chiefs started negotiations by asking for a third rounder" are two completely different things.

Michael Smith at ESPN, among others, have said the Chiefs initially asked for higher than a 3rd rounder.

This whole thing just BLOWS! :cuss:

Herm blows, Mr. TEX. In fact, Herm blows dead chickens. Herm sucks syphilitic discharge from the genitals of encephalitic midget cretans and inhales the anal emissions of cross-eyed, poxed, half-decomposed, whore corpses. Herm is the worst thing to ever - EVER - happen to this franchise.

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Since Grandpa, yes. Both of done their best to kick this fanbase squarely in the crotch.

LOL at Allen. When you think you went to a SB contender, and it just took you a last minute FG and a bogus interference call to beat a winless team who was playing their backup QB, you need to recruit everyone you can.

wonder how he feels about that offense?? must be killin him, but he's gotta step up, most had him pegged as a 15 sack guy every year. especially with the d-line he's on now, it's amazing what a contract year will do

Chris Mortensen just said it's 50-50 on Tony getting traded. He did say that Jerry Jones may be interested in Pat Surtain, and he also said that the Lions may get involved with Roy Williams for someone but I didn't catch who.

Moss is oddly inactive for the first time this year tonight.

Well..... should be interesting if we can pull off something at trade deadline.

is the trade deadline tomorrow at 3pm?

Eat my ass Jared. I'll bet the Chiefs play in a Super Bowl before the ****ing Vikings do. Oh how sweet it would be to beat their asses again in the big game.

Quit sugar coating it and tell us how you really feel about Herm Mr. Fax.

yes, central time.

Nothing official yet?

or even "semi-official" thru the local media?

It's confirmed that he asked for a trade, and the Chiefs have tried to get one done. Seems like it's all about negotiations now.

Got till 3pm CST tomorrow

"Billsfandom" is going nuts with speculation. LOL BUT.... the good thing about the constant non-stop talk about TG is that they are giving the Edwards/Losman drum a break.

If the Giants' offense doesn't start playing a bit better, I think their interest in Tony might go up a bit between now and tomorrow.

Giants would be unstoppable on O with Gonzo adding to that WR and RB core.

our starting te just got hurt so the trade is looking better by the second

Right on. Let's get it done.

Tony is smiling somewhere

Not enough time to get this deal done. Tony waited too long to tell Carl.

A trade can happen in a matter of minutes.

Gonzo told Carl after the Atlanta game.

If I'm the Chiefs, I want Sinorice Moss and a 3rd rounder.

Why in the hell is a player like Tony Gonzalez getting devalued in this NFL?

Can anyone tell me?

They sure could've used Gonzo at the redzone there

I don't think the Chiefs have any interest in Sinorice Moss. I haven't heard his name mentioned once in any of the trade reports.

His age, and the fact he opened his dumbass mouth and said he's considering retiring after the 2009 season.

Not many teams are going to give up a ransom to rent a guy for what may amount to a season and a half.

JMO.

The more I hear about this the more I hate Carl and Herm more.

I really do wish very bad things to happen to both of them

Nothing new but NBC said negotiations are ongoing with several teams, nothing pending currently