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chiefs1111 04-13-2009 01:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5665097)
Time to time?

He was second in the league for dropped passes with 13. Braylon Edwards had 16.

That's awful.

http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/l...iving&rank=232
Damn,I knew he had trouble dropping passes but i didn't think it was that many..

Micjones 04-13-2009 02:00 PM
How valuable does Pioli think Tony Gonzalez is?

ToxSocks 04-13-2009 02:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DTLB58 (Post 5665603)
Jim , Athens, GA 02:54 PM ET
Do you think there is a possibility that the Falcons try to trade for a pass catching tight end like Tony Gonzalez instead of picking Brandon Pettigrew? The Falcons need to pick defense with their first pick don't you agree? Vic

Carucci, Senior Writer, NFL.com

I think it's possible. My sense is that Gonzalez does not feel all that comfortable with the new regime in KC. And when you think about the offense from which new Chiefs GM Scott Pioli came in New England, the tight end simply didn't have that big of a pass-catching role. Gonzalez certainly knows that and wants to be on a team where is going to at least be among the top pass-catchers.
Yeah, he wasn't suppose to be as much of a threat in Vermiel's offense either.

DaneMcCloud 04-13-2009 02:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5665638)
How valuable does Pioli think Tony Gonzalez is?
No one will know the answer to that question unless he's traded.

Frankie 04-13-2009 02:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 5665642)
Yeah, he wasn't suppose to be as much of a threat in Vermiel's offense either.
EXACTLY.

Micjones 04-13-2009 02:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5665648)
No one will know the answer to that question unless he's traded.
Or if he isn't.

SBK 04-13-2009 02:25 PM
For anyone that cares, here in Atlanta sports radio is all over this. They're telling the Falcons to give up that 2nd rounder before the Chiefs change their mind or someone else swoops in an offer more.

They want to do this trade today, so they don't lose out on such a great player for such a low price.

Micjones 04-13-2009 02:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SBK (Post 5665716)
For anyone that cares, here in Atlanta sports radio is all over this. They're telling the Falcons to give up that 2nd rounder before the Chiefs change their mind or someone else swoops in an offer more.

They want to do this trade today, so they don't lose out on such a great player for such a low price.
Trade him. Then draft Chase Coffman at #55 to replace him!
:D

Kidding...
Paul Kruger will do.

SBK 04-13-2009 02:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5665740)
Trade him. Then draft Chase Coffman at #55 to replace him!
:D

Kidding...
Paul Kruger will do.
Hearing the people talk about needing to do that trade now made me wonder if he doesn't hold a higher value to teams that are close than we think an old TE has.

If you thought he was the missing piece to your offense to be Super Bowl caliber, maybe you overpay to get him?

To me a 2nd rounder for a 33 year old TE, even for the best one to ever play, seems like too high a price.

Mecca 04-13-2009 03:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 5665642)
Yeah, he wasn't suppose to be as much of a threat in Vermiel's offense either.
Yea lets not factor in that Peterson was still here and he in no way was gonna let his boy go to replace him with legit WR's. Tony Gonzalez was the weapon in Vermiels passing game because we never even made an attempt to even get adequate WR's.

Dylan 04-13-2009 06:51 PM
Sorry, I do not have a link.

For what it's worth:


How to build a champion

Pats showed the way; can Parcells, rest of NFL follow?

NEW YORK -- Once upon a time, way back in 2000, New England owner Bob Kraft swam against the tide and hired a 47-year-old coach, Bill Belichick, who brought along a trusted friend with a knack for picking players, Scott Pioli, 34, to run the personnel side of the team.

Pioli would scout and prepare the free-agent and draft lists with his staff, and do contracts, while Belichick would coach and pick the players ... with the financial and moral support of Kraft.

The Patriots were $10 million over the cap then, and their top-rated free agent at an important position was a terrific young tackle, Jon Runyan. Nope, Belichick said; we're not going to further screw up our bloated cap by signing the richest tackle in football. So the Patriots bit the bullet in 2000 and 2001, trying to get better through the draft (Tom Brady came in 2000, Richard Seymour and Matt Light in '01).

Then they took a very interesting gamble in 2001. One of their best young defensive players, tackle Chad Eaton, was a free agent, and the Pats let him go seek his fortune. Eaton signed with Seattle for a bonus of $3.5 million. The Patriots signed 20 mid- to low-roster veteran free agents for $2.57 million in signing bonuses that spring.

Of course, the Patriots won the Super Bowl that season, with 16 of those free agents playing in an upset win over St. Louis. Mike Vrabel, Antowain Smith, Roman Phifer and Larry Izzo were among them. In the spring of 2002, New England was the only defending Super Bowl champion in the first nine years of free agency to enter the next season under the salary cap.

After that 2002 Super Bowl game, I told Belichick at the Patriots' team party, "You've just given a blueprint to every team in the NFL -- draft well, find a quarterback and fill in all the cracks through middle- and lower-class free-agency.''

"I know,'' he said.

Six years later, teams still don't follow the blueprint. I don't get it.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-13-2009 08:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dylan (Post 5666765)
Sorry, I do not have a link.

For what it's worth:


How to build a champion

Pats showed the way; can Parcells, rest of NFL follow?

NEW YORK -- Once upon a time, way back in 2000, New England owner Bob Kraft swam against the tide and hired a 47-year-old coach, Bill Belichick, who brought along a trusted friend with a knack for picking players, Scott Pioli, 34, to run the personnel side of the team.

Pioli would scout and prepare the free-agent and draft lists with his staff, and do contracts, while Belichick would coach and pick the players ... with the financial and moral support of Kraft.

The Patriots were $10 million over the cap then, and their top-rated free agent at an important position was a terrific young tackle, Jon Runyan. Nope, Belichick said; we're not going to further screw up our bloated cap by signing the richest tackle in football. So the Patriots bit the bullet in 2000 and 2001, trying to get better through the draft (Tom Brady came in 2000, Richard Seymour and Matt Light in '01).

Then they took a very interesting gamble in 2001. One of their best young defensive players, tackle Chad Eaton, was a free agent, and the Pats let him go seek his fortune. Eaton signed with Seattle for a bonus of $3.5 million. The Patriots signed 20 mid- to low-roster veteran free agents for $2.57 million in signing bonuses that spring.

Of course, the Patriots won the Super Bowl that season, with 16 of those free agents playing in an upset win over St. Louis. Mike Vrabel, Antowain Smith, Roman Phifer and Larry Izzo were among them. In the spring of 2002, New England was the only defending Super Bowl champion in the first nine years of free agency to enter the next season under the salary cap.

After that 2002 Super Bowl game, I told Belichick at the Patriots' team party, "You've just given a blueprint to every team in the NFL -- draft well, find a quarterback and fill in all the cracks through middle- and lower-class free-agency.''

"I know,'' he said.

Six years later, teams still don't follow the blueprint. I don't get it.
With all due respect, "find a Quarterback" isn't exactly a trip to Win-Dixie for a bag of potato chips.

Normally.

This year, you have not one, but TWO bags of chips to choose from! Too bad we pissed away the change under the sofa for a half-eaten bag of Cheetos...:doh!:

Mr. Kotter 04-13-2009 08:41 PM
If the Falcons are REALLY offering their second round pick to the Chiefs for Gonzo, his Chief's career is over. No way Pioli passes up that at this stage in Tony's career--given the rebuild the Chiefs are going through.

Fairplay 04-13-2009 08:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SBK (Post 5665716)
For anyone that cares, here in Atlanta sports radio is all over this. They're telling the Falcons to give up that 2nd rounder before the Chiefs change their mind or someone else swoops in an offer more.

They want to do this trade today, so they don't lose out on such a great player for such a low price.
I think both teams would do good in this deal.

Certainly bring a great offensive weapon for the Falcons. Gonzo just seems to keep going and going like the ever ready battery.

He hinted at being traded a time or two. He has had great years with the Chiefs. And he won't get a ring with the Chiefs organization it appears.

I can't blame him for wanting to move on.

milkman 04-13-2009 08:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fairplay (Post 5667315)
I think both teams would do good in this deal.

Certainly bring a great offensive weapon for the Falcons. Gonzo just seems to keep going and going like the ever ready battery.

He hinted at being traded a time or two. He has had great years with the Chiefs. And he won't get a ring with the Chiefs organization it appears.

I can't blame him for wanting to move on.
Yeah, he does just keep going and going, but at some point, sooner, rather than later, the demands of his position and age are going to catch up to him.

Molitoth 04-13-2009 08:51 PM
With Tony G, you know what your getting.... the best tight end in modern day history.

With a second round draft pick you are taking a 50/50 chance of a bust. I would imagine the odds of the draft pick putting out an even significant stat figure comparible to Tony G would be a reach. Tony G for a second rounder isn't too much in my book.

OnTheWarpath15 04-13-2009 08:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 5667358)
With Tony G, you know what your getting.... the best tight end in modern day history.

With a second round draft pick you are taking a 50/50 chance of a bust. I would imagine the odds of the draft pick putting out an even significant stat figure comparible to Tony G would be a reach. Tony G for a second rounder isn't too much in my book.
So:

There's a 50/50 chance that a 2nd round pick will be here and productive during a Super Bowl run 3-4 years from now.

There's a ZERO percent chance that TG would be part of that run.

You get the chance to pick a player that could be a cornerstone for the next 10 years, versus getting nothing when he retires in 2010.

This isn't that difficult a choice, IMO.

doomy3 04-13-2009 08:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fairplay (Post 5667315)
I think both teams would do good in this deal.

Certainly bring a great offensive weapon for the Falcons. Gonzo just seems to keep going and going like the ever ready battery.

He hinted at being traded a time or two. He has had great years with the Chiefs. And he won't get a ring with the Chiefs organization it appears.

I can't blame him for wanting to move on.
I think it's the Energizer bunny.

Molitoth 04-13-2009 09:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5667386)
So:

There's a 50/50 chance that a 2nd round pick will be here and productive during a Super Bowl run 3-4 years from now.

There's a ZERO percent chance that TG would be part of that run.

You get the chance to pick a player that could be a cornerstone for the next 10 years, versus getting nothing when he retires in 2010.

This isn't that difficult a choice, IMO.
Oh believe me, I also agree with this...

I think this trade would be good for both teams.

Gracie Dean 04-13-2009 09:18 PM
like they are in any more position to win a ring?

ChiefsCountry 04-13-2009 09:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by noswad (Post 5667458)
like they are in any more position to win a ring?
Yes they are.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-13-2009 09:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5667464)
Yes they are.
This + Yes.

Frankie 04-14-2009 08:32 AM
I can't believe how many posters here are lusting for that 2nd round pick! Once again, the second round covers picks 33 to 64. 55 is way nearer 64 than 33. Hell it's almost a 3rd rounder! There's 210 point differential between our old 2nd and 55. That means if we were to at least reasonably replace that value we should ask for Atlanta's 3rd (155 points +/-) as well. The point is if we let TG go for 55 we are FAR FROM "GETTING OUR 2ND BACK"!!!! I am open to trading TG for a good price. But I'm also in the camp that believes TG has not shown any signs of slowing down and has a good 4 more years in him. 55 is too low.

Brock 04-14-2009 08:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by noswad (Post 5667458)
like they are in any more position to win a ring?
Are you serious?

Frankie 04-14-2009 08:40 AM
FWIW:

According to this Pioli has REJECTED the 55 offer.

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2009/4...cons-offer-for

Frank Boal of FOX4 in Kansas City is reporting the Kansas City Chiefs have rejected a trade offer from the Atlanta Falcons for tight end Tony Gonzalez. The offer was for the Falcons' 55th overall pick according to Michael Lombardi of the National Football Post.

*Boal rarely breaks news about the Chiefs and the rest of the mainstream media hasn't picked up on this yet so we're certainly going to continue following this story until we can get another confirmation.

Rumors have been swirling that the Chiefs were nearing a deal with someone to move Gonzalez. The basis of some of these rumors? Gonzalez cleaning out his locker.

We'll never know if the future Hall of Fame tight end was simply cleaning out his locker before the start of the Chiefs first veteran mandatory mini-camp on April 17th or if he removed his belongings with the intention that he wouldn't be back.

If the GM Scott Pioli values Gonzalez more than the Falcons' second round pick then it's unlikely any team in the NFL will match his price. The overlord of the previous Chiefs regime, Carl Peterson, reportedly pushed his asking price from a third to a second and fifth round pick at the trading deadline last year.

We can debate about Gonzalez's worth all day long but he's worth whatever any team will offer him. If the offers that came in last season (Eagles' 3rd, Giants' 6th) are any indication, Tony Gonzalez will not be traded by the Chiefs this season.

dirk digler 04-14-2009 08:42 AM
I don't think the Falcons have much of a shot to win the SB next year. Vegas has their odds at 25/1

Both Carolina and New Orleans are predicted to do better

Brock 04-14-2009 08:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 5668167)
I don't think the Falcons have much of a shot to win the SB next year. Vegas has their odds at 25/1

Both Carolina and New Orleans are predicted to do better
That's reeruned. They made the playoffs with a rookie QB, you think they're going to go backward?

dirk digler 04-14-2009 08:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5668182)
That's reeruned. They made the playoffs with a rookie QB, you think they're going to go backward?
That is the way it works in the NFL it happens every year. You think the Saints are going to go 8-8 this year?

And if you think it is reeruned go talk to Vegas they made the odds not me.

Frankie 04-14-2009 08:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5668182)
That's reeruned. They made the playoffs with a rookie QB, you think they're going to go backward?
The Saints did. Albeit their QB was a vet. Anything is possible.

dirk digler 04-14-2009 08:59 AM
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Brock 04-14-2009 09:04 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 5668193)
That is the way it works in the NFL it happens every year. You think the Saints are going to go 8-8 this year?

And if you think it is reeruned go talk to Vegas they made the odds not me.
You really think odds are an indicator of anything? That's ridiculous.

Brock 04-14-2009 09:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 5668200)
The Saints did. Albeit their QB was a vet. Anything is possible.
The Falcons are better than the Saints.

Brock 04-14-2009 09:06 AM
At any rate, saying the Falcons are no closer than the Chiefs to making it to the Super Bowl is incredibly dumb. Regardless of what Vegas odds in April are.

dirk digler 04-14-2009 09:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5668218)
At any rate, saying the Falcons are no closer than the Chiefs to making it to the Super Bowl is incredibly dumb. Regardless of what Vegas odds in April are.
I never said that I just said I doubt they win the SB this year.

Brock 04-14-2009 09:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 5668222)
I never said that I just said I doubt they win the SB this year.
You said they "don't have much of a shot to win the Super Bowl this year". That's nonsense. They're going to be the favorite to win their division. Save the Vegas odds, they don't mean anything.

ToxSocks 04-14-2009 09:14 AM
Pioli likes vets. He's spent this offseason loading up on Pro-Bowl vets. Why do people seem to think that he's ready to part ways with the best vet we have on the offensive side of the ball?

It makes no sense. Pioli probably wants to give his team, errr, i mean his QB the best chance to win. He'll trade TG when he's ready. And i don't think it'll be this season.

dirk digler 04-14-2009 09:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5668230)
You said they "don't have much of a shot to win the Super Bowl this year". That's nonsense. They're going to be the favorite to win their division. Save the Vegas odds, they don't mean anything.
You want to make a friendly wager they don't win the SB?

New Orleans was favored last year to win their division see how far that got them?

Brock 04-14-2009 09:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 5668243)
You want to make a friendly wager they don't win the SB?

New Orleans was favored last year to win their division see how far that got them?
Do you want to bet they win their division?

doomy3 04-14-2009 09:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5668253)
Do you want to bet they win their division?
Off subject, but what's with the shoes in your avatar?

DeezNutz 04-14-2009 09:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 5668243)
You want to make a friendly wager they don't win the SB?

New Orleans was favored last year to win their division see how far that got them?
What team do you want to bet on? Pick your favorite.

I'll take the field every single time.

dirk digler 04-14-2009 09:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5668253)
Do you want to bet they win their division?
Sure as long as we bet that the Falcons will win the SB.

Brock 04-14-2009 10:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 5668308)
Sure as long as we bet that the Falcons will win the SB.
No, that's idiotic. You're taking the field, and I'm taking one team? Wrong. I wouldn't take that bet if we were talking about the Patriots.

dirk digler 04-14-2009 10:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5668333)
No, that's idiotic. You're taking the field, and I'm taking one team? Wrong. I wouldn't take that bet if we were talking about the Patriots.
Cmon Brock it is just a friendly wager. Maybe a 6-pack of your favorite adult beverage.

Brock 04-14-2009 10:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 5668361)
Cmon Brock it is just a friendly wager. Maybe a 6-pack of your favorite adult beverage.
"Friendly wager" sounds more like sucker bet.

dirk digler 04-14-2009 10:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5668366)
"Friendly wager" sounds more like sucker bet.
LMAO Maybe it is. :p

Baby Lee 04-14-2009 10:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5668253)
Do you want to bet they win their division?
Oh hai!!!
http://www.studyofsports.com/wp-cont..._peterson.jpeg

"My boy Tony gets it, you get a chance to leave the team you've been with all your life and go to a team that aspires to make the playoffs where you can rool them dice, you take it!!!!"

Brock 04-14-2009 11:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 5668446)
Oh hai!!!
http://www.studyofsports.com/wp-cont..._peterson.jpeg

"My boy Tony gets it, you get a chance to leave the team you've been with all your life and go to a team that aspires to make the playoffs where you can rool them dice, you take it!!!!"
A bit too oblique for me.

Baby Lee 04-14-2009 11:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5668468)
A bit too oblique for me.
I don't get the sense that Gonzo wants to leave because he'd like to play for once for a possible division winner.

Brock 04-14-2009 11:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 5668500)
I don't get the sense that Gonzo wants to leave because he'd like to play for once for a possible division winner.
You're distorting my position. I don't care enough to argue it with you, though.

StcChief 04-17-2009 08:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by beavis (Post 5662009)
I think the days of this mentality are over.

Thank God.
Bevis where is butthead.... a reality of values here with TG. but if a bong is what's up... go to the shed with Overhead.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-17-2009 08:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by StcChief (Post 5680684)
Bevis where is butthead.... a reality of values here with TG. but if a bong is what's up... go to the shed with Overhead.
http://www.demotivateus.com/posters/...nal-poster.jpg

DTLB58 04-17-2009 08:48 PM
I don't think he is going anywhere.

Clark said after the Owners meetings that they weren't trading him.

Pioli was asked yesterday if they were looking to move any veteran players at the draft and he said "NO". The room went quiet for a few seconds. Next question.

I know, I know, draft talk to beef up any players value.

But, I believe them on TG anyways.

If it were Herm I would say he would trade him for young buck anyday. But these guys are bringing in vets to compete and play to help us win now. Getting rid of a awesome target like Gonzalez for Cassel does not help us win now.

DTLB58 04-17-2009 09:10 PM
The comment below is from a chat with Bill Williamson from espn.com. He has a afc west blog and chats afc west every thursday.

Jon (KC): If you're Scott Pioli and you're offered a 2nd rd pick for Gonzalez (as rumored). Do you make the trade? (bare in mind KC has their heir apparent Brad Cottam)

Bill Williamson: If I was running the show in Kansas City, I'd do what I could to make Gonzalez happy and to make him want to play in Kansas City as long as he could. The guy is special. He should never wear another NFL uniform.

StcChief 04-19-2009 05:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DTLBRonaldCurryFan (Post 5680849)
The comment below is from a chat with Bill Williamson from espn.com. He has a afc west blog and chats afc west every thursday.

Jon (KC): If you're Scott Pioli and you're offered a 2nd rd pick for Gonzalez (as rumored). Do you make the trade? (bare in mind KC has their heir apparent Brad Cottam)

Bill Williamson: If I was running the show in Kansas City, I'd do what I could to make Gonzalez happy and to make him want to play in Kansas City as long as he could. The guy is special. He should never wear another NFL uniform.
yes. despite what Chiefsplanet Brainless trust here think...
Gonzo will be here in 2009, helping build this team.

chiefs1111 04-19-2009 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by StcChief (Post 5685515)
yes. despite what Chiefsplanet Brainless trust here think...
Gonzo will be here in 2009, helping build this team.
I don't have any problem with him being here for the 2009 season. As long as he quits acting like a cry baby.

milkman 04-19-2009 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by StcChief (Post 5685515)
yes. despite what Chiefsplanet Brainless trust here think...
Gonzo will be here in 2009, helping build this team.
So, because some writer who has about as much inside info as you or I thinks that the Chiefs shouldn't trade him, it is a given in your mind that he won't be traded.

And you call us "Brainless"?

What irony.

bowener 04-19-2009 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by StcChief (Post 5685515)
yes. despite what Chiefsplanet Brainless trust here think...
Gonzo will be here in 2009, helping build this team.
If we can get the Center and RG/RT spots fixed, our offense could be really damn good. I read somewhere that Goff could play center or RG for us. I think if he plays RG he will help out the center a lot in covering his blocking assignments and by keeping his own man blocked. I think since we are going to be a team that passes more often we definately need to kill McIntosh for dignity's sake, and then find a stud to cover that role.

I guess what I am hoping is that our O can school people weekly, and our D can pull off just enough stops to help our O win the game... similar to the Colts from years past-- would be great if our D showed up on the playoffs too... ala Cards from last year and the Colts from a few years back.

edit: found the Goff thing here... not sure how credible.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-19-2009 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by StcChief (Post 5685515)
yes. despite what Chiefsplanet Brainless trust here think...
Gonzo will be here in 2009, helping build this team.
Quote:
Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5685523)
So, because some writer who has about as much inside info as you or I thinks that the Chiefs shouldn't trade him, it is a given in your mind that he won't be traded.

And you call us "Brainless"?

What irony.
Uh, the correct term is "Chiefs Planet Kool-Aid Brain Trust".
And if you're sporting your own "witty" little "Drinking the Kool-Aid / In Pioli/These Three I Trust" sig, and If you think Sanchez sucks, Curry is Jesus, and the "rockin" duo of Cassel/Thigpen is a better idea than Cassel/Sanchez;
YOU ARE A MEMBER OF IT.

Thank you, that is all for now.

DTLB58 04-19-2009 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 5685561)
Uh, the correct term is "Chiefs Planet Kool-Aid Brain Trust".
And if you're sporting your own "witty" little "Drinking the Kool-Aid / In Pioli/These Three I Trust" sig, and If you think Sanchez sucks, Curry is Jesus, and the "rockin" duo of Cassel/Thigpen is a better idea than Cassel/Sanchez;
YOU ARE A MEMBER OF IT.

Thank you, that is all for now.
For the record.....I have never said I wanted Curry, In fact I have posted I believe 3 times in the past 2 weeks I think we trade down or pick Raji.

I have never said Sanchez sucks. I have just been a Cassel Supporter.

Yes,I Do think that Cassel/Thigpen would be a better way to build this team than spending our first 2 picks of the '09 draft on 2 QB's.

Yes, I do support Clark,Scott and Todd.

So, 2 out of 4.

Maybe YOU better do a little more reading next time before you post.

4321

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-19-2009 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by DTLBRonaldCurryFan (Post 5685621)
For the record.....I have never said I wanted Curry, In fact I have posted I believe 3 times in the past 2 weeks I think we trade down or pick Raji.

I have never said Sanchez sucks. I have just been a Cassel Supporter.

Yes,I Do think that Cassel/Thigpen would be a better way to build this team than spending our first 2 picks of the '09 draft on 2 QB's.

Yes, I do support Clark,Scott and Todd.

So, 2 out of 4.

Maybe YOU better do a little more reading next time before you post.

4321
Just couldn't wait for me to get to your post, so you had to PM me with this drivel as well?

You don't have to meet all of the requirements. Perhaps I should have made that clear. Have a drink on me:

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raisedonred 04-19-2009 07:24 PM
Sorry guys, I'm a rookie, somebody tell me how the hell I download my own avatar on my profile in here please!

Crush 04-19-2009 07:30 PM
Read the FAQ, but here is some rep.

SBK 04-19-2009 07:32 PM
Scott Pioli wants to speak with you tards that want Curry @3.

raisedonred 04-19-2009 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Crush (Post 5685746)
Read the FAQ, but here is some rep.
Alright, I guess I'm just blind or something, but I've looked all over in the FAQ & the User CP and there arent ANY options for uploading or downloading an avatar from my computer. It's either "no avatar" or an avatar that the site offers which is gay. Any suggestions anyone? Do you have to make a certain amount of posts or be a member for a specific period of time before they allow it, or what?

raisedonred 04-19-2009 07:48 PM
I gotta have my avatar-I have no identity!!! lol

SBK 04-19-2009 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by raisedonred (Post 5685779)
Alright, I guess I'm just blind or something, but I've looked all over in the FAQ & the User CP and there arent ANY options for uploading or downloading an avatar from my computer. It's either "no avatar" or an avatar that the site offers which is gay. Any suggestions anyone? Do you have to make a certain amount of posts or be a member for a specific period of time before they allow it, or what?
Scroll down

raisedonred 04-19-2009 07:50 PM
DOWN WHERE? LOL!!!!!!

raisedonred 04-19-2009 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by SBK (Post 5685784)
Scroll down
This is crazy!! HA, HA! I'm an idiot I guess, cause I can't find nothing even remotely close!

raisedonred 04-19-2009 07:54 PM
ALRIGHT, jokes on me, ha, ha!!! I just received this email from the site....

"Do note that new users are not allowed to do certain things around ChiefsPlanet in order to prevent abuse. For example, new users are not allowed to have custom avatars or signatures, start new threads, send private messages, and participate in the arcade"

NICE, you guys had me running around like an idiot trying to find the options!!!

SBK 04-19-2009 07:57 PM
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LaChapelle 04-21-2009 08:00 PM
I don't know if this has been discussed or not. On NFL Network tonight(4/21) they said two teams were very interested in Tony G. The Falcons and the Eagles and it would take a 2nd. I had not heard of the Eagles being all that interested, or if they have much left to trade.

beavis 04-21-2009 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by StcChief (Post 5680684)
Bevis where is butthead.... a reality of values here with TG. but if a bong is what's up... go to the shed with Overhead.
English much?


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