Sounds like a job for Dole.

I don't think having a bad game is a big deal.

But it's important to look at the reason why it happened. This was the first game where the Jets looked like they weren't in at least some control of the game. It was the first game where you could see the Jets take the kid gloves off and open up the offense. But that's what would happen to any inexperienced QB.

It wouldn't bother me so much, but there are dozens of posters who are obsessing over how amazing Sanchez has been and how much of a bust Cassel is. Obsessing. The same people who refuse to believe that a crappy situation has led Cassel to be uneffective are the same who are making excuses for Sanchez not excelling when the situation wasn't as favorable.

This game wouldn't have been such a big deal if there weren't so many people hugging his nuts for the first month of the season.

The fact that you think JUCO isn't as good as high school football shows what a complete fucking moron you are. I played with two first round draft choices you complete fcvkcing tool. And as I noted, it was NOT the top level I played at. But I know plenty of dumbfuck internet board know it alls like you, who haven't done shit but try to act like coach king shit about football. You're a football mental midget dick wrinkle. Get bent.

ROFL

How did I know you would troll this thread after his FIRST bad game as a rookie? you are a simpleton jackass.

The offensive play calling was awful in this game IMO. the Saints had 9 men at the line of scrimmage and the Jets continued to try and run the ball. by you blaming Sanchez for this game only makes you look more of a jackass than you already did..lol..which is difficult to fathom :D

Really?

Who?

JUCO football is where the dumbasses who were too damn stupid to get into college out of high school go.

Cassell qb rating today 78.5
Sanchez qb rating today 27.0
That is not a typo 27.
NO played better on D than anyone thought. But today people got a look at what sanchez would look like with the chiefs. Sanchez I think will be a good qb but he's a rookie and he may have more games like this before the year is up.
I wanted sanchez as much as anyone here but a qb can't do it on his own.
Put sanchez in a good situation and he will do well. BUT the same applies to cassell.

I wonder if they also have very poor english language skills.

He played with Justin Tvck, I wonder if he signed his contract like that.

Your football takes don't mesh with your made-up story about playing college ball.

Kansas JUCOs do produce alot of good football players also the one in Oklahoma does as well.

I'd say I have already proven your dumbassery, but the fact is I didn't do anything that you didn't already do yourself.

I should apologize to Justin Tuck since he went to Notre Dame he's obviously to smart to ever have been at a JUCO with this guy.

No doubt.

It shouldn't take this long to answer, however, as he played with the guys.

Still waiting.

So there isnt any talent at that level? Or are you saying all D1 players are smart?

I dont know what the expectations of Sanchez were as a rookie..lol..but in my opinion he's doing a great job for a first year player with 4 games nfl xp under his belt.

I would take him over that pos Pennington in a heart beat. he was due to have a bad game. and any turd (guardian or whatever the **** your name is) that critiques a first year rookie like that is a clueless idiot :D

Really? what have I been wrong on? Do tell.

I'm waiting, too. I've asked him before where he played, but he's never answered. I'm convinced at this point that he's bullshitting us. The quality of his football takes certainly suggests that he is.

Sanchez blows monkey balls. If he were on a team that weren't playing playoff caliber defense right now he's already have been exposed as the piece of garbage he is.

Nope if you saw my other reply. JUCOs get alot of players who are true D1 studs bc they were morons in high school who couldn't get the grades. Its the same with alot of the D2 programs.

Actually, Jucos do have some talented players that attend because they don't meet the academic criteria of even the most minimal requirements at 4 year schools that have low standards.

After a year or two of raising their grades (wonder how they manage that? :rolleyes:), they do eventually move on to real college.

What else would you expect, making up some story like that is a really easy way to get idiots to buy into what he says.

Dont know that the Jets are world beaters, but Sanchez is in a much better place than he would be with the Chiefs. Appears you guys wont have to worry about that position for a few 10 years. Just need someone to throw to.

Still waiting.

C'mon, man. You claim you played with 2 former 1st round picks.

It's not that difficult to type their names.

No, it isn't. Terrible comparison. Academics are a big aspect of D2 athletics. The athletes are expected to perform in the classroom. Besides, they're real universities the D2 kids are playing for; their admissions standards are higher than a junior college.

Or because they were undiscovered at the high school level or have/had head coaches at that level who don't do a good job at getting their guys many division I looks.

Like i said, you don't know anything about that process. Saying shit like "JUCO isn't even high school level" is perhaps one of the most idiotic things I've ever read regarding football. There are a shit ton of players in the NFL who went through JUCO. Some for academic reasons, some for other reasons. you simply have no idea as to what you are talking about and neither does anyone else here because they have never done anything.

And as I noted, JUCO was not the highest level I played at, just the only one I'm going to talk about.

You're not even talking about JUCO. You're just typing the word JUCO and expecting people to believe you.

Northwest isnt that way but some of your fellow D2 members are.

There is some truth to the D2 comparison, at times. For example, this is how a school like Emporia State landed Leon Lett.

Tough for some high schoolers to get in the likes of a Michigan, Ohio State, etc. as an out-of-stater. D2s will have lesser admissions requirements, of course.

Now, once the yutes get on campus, there is no question that they are expected to perform in the classroom, so this is where the junior college analogy breaks down.

He's not going to answer this question....

ROFL

Because that would tell you where I played you fucking reerun. And after some idiots from another board looked that up and literally called my former coach (who is an offensive coach at a div I school now) I vowed I'd never give out that much info again. So no, blow me.

Ah in other words "I'm making shit up"

Why not?

If it actually happened, there's no reason not to mention who he played with.

:shake:

There are a lot of D2 schools. Some are colleges and function much like, well, junior colleges. Most are universities (there is a difference between a university and a college) with actual standards of admission and they don't take kids who don't academically qualify.

Of course I am. Whatever makes you sleep better at night. Some people actually DO things while others, like you, just play XBOX and live through video games.

I told you...he has an excuse because in reality, it's a lie.

What better way to make a bunch of lemmings believe what you say than to say you played ball with guys who are in the NFL?

I'm the reerun?

I'm not the one claiming I played JUCO ball, with 2 first round picks, but makes excuses when asked to prove it.

Yeah, .... that's right. Ehhh, ... I was a star who was overlooked. Yeah.

And ehhhh ... if you don't believe me, you can ask my wife, ehhhh .... Morgan Fairchild, ... whom I've seen naked!

http://blog.pennlive.com/thrive/medium_LOVITZ.jpg

Yeah, when Emporia State was an NAIA school, not an NCAA school. There's a world of difference in academic qualification for athletes between those athletic associations.

do we really have a whole thread on Sanchez? I havent even seen this much discussion on the chiefs.

Thats true no doubt. I just know some D2s can get kids that D1's cant. I know Central had a few guys that MSU couldn't get in. I'm suprised that Truman can compete at all in the MIAA with their admissions.

Who gives a tiny little rats ass if they called your alleged former coach? What's the big deal? Did he tell everyone that you were a locker room pole smoker or what?

Do you know what the specific differences are for an out-of-state athlete to qualify at an MIAA school as opposed to a major D1?

Of course it's a lie. Like I said, whatever makes you sleep better at night keyboard expert whose only tackle in life is tackling a bottle of accutane for his face pits.

Have you missed the thousands of Chiefs threads? Because they're easy to search up if you want me to link you to them.

Unless you've played football, you don't know shit. /Haley/

No he called me and asked me why people he did not know were calling him and asking him if I played for him. Now, imagine you are a div I coach who has internet f@ggots like say, Mecca, calling you to verify someone played for you, to settle an internet argument.

Seems fucking stupid doesn't it? Yeah, thought so.

Ohio State used to send their "non-predictors" to Coffeyville College. Ron Springs was one of them. O.J. Simpson also played JUCO ball.

This is impossible. I was told by milkman that JUCO was a level LOWER than high school.
ROFL

Didnt see it until after I replied. Familiar with how talented some JUCO's are. lol... depends on how "tough" a D2 academic requirements are to meet. Its a fine line between qualifying and not.

Christ, did you play in the ****ing 1930's?

Who the **** needs to make a phone call to confirm anything? The information is a click away on the internet.

You'd think someone with any education wouldn't spell a word fucking.

LMAO

I never said they are world beaters..I'm just pleasantly surprised with Sanchez. he certainly doesnt suck..lol


And I'm a pessimist..so I'm waiting till the end of the season to pass judgement

Brandon Jacobs played at Coffeyville. Jeremy Shockey played at NEO.

I remember folks getting crucified (rightly so) for using this kind of logic when defending Tyler Thigpen. It's even more hilarious now.

It seem ... oh wait, you had your hand in my back, moving my mouth, answering for me. Never mind.

All defenses of Thigpen were obviated with a single-word rebuttal: pistol.

Let's assume, for the sake of argument, that you are what you say you are.

I don't give a rat's ass if you played in the NFL, when you look like a dumbass, and act like a dumbass, then it's a fair assumption that you are a dumbass.

Herman ****ing Edwards played, scouted, and coached in the NFL, and you won't find a bigger dumbass, except the one that claims he played JUCO football and has come to be known around here as "The reerunian".

The difference in D2 and D1 qualification right now is D1 requires 16 "core classes" taken in high school at 2.4 GPA (generally) while D2 requires 14 "core classes" at 2.0 GPA, though D2 will require 16 core classes taken starting in 2013. (NAIA requirements are a joke. They have to meet two of the following four requirements: have an ACT of 18, an SAT of 860, graduate high school with a 2.0 GPA, graduate in the 50th percentile or better of your class or have a GED. You almost have to be dead to not have two of those).

That explains, ChiefsCountry, why UCM was able to get some guys that MSU couldn't. Its not a large difference, however, and the difference is trending smaller. As for Truman, they compete strongly in a number of sports. Football isn't one of them right now; that could change some if they ever get their program's house in order.

My last words on this:

Marty Shook.

Someone make it happen.

Wait...how would someone have called his old coach unless he gave them the number?

Did they go look up a division 1 coaches phone number?

****in-A.

Less holes to fill, better than that guy you guys had last year. lol

Didn't know that. Fort Scott had a very good RB too but I can't remember his name. Anybody?

Okay makes sense. I know Truman is strong in other sports, I was talking about football.

because ****ing is blocked by the board. fucking is NOT. got it xbox boy?

.........and still knows more about football than your dumb fuck ass.

I would wait even longer to pass judgement, because Sanchez is bound to have a couple or three more games like this over the course of this season.

Chris Brown

Guy named Johnson who played for the Giants for a bit. Beat cancer too. Can't remeber his first name. UDFA.

They need a new head coach, badly. The whole coaching staff needs to be purged. They are regressing as a program, which is sad.

Eh, bingo on that one. Who was the Johnson kid I'm thinking of?

That's a bannable offense, isn't it mods? Bypassing the filter?

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/faq.p...faq_ban_filter

And somehow managed to fail to prove it.

You're a ****ing genious(cps) who's too stupid to prove your mental superiority?

Would be the guy.

gawddammit!!!! It was right on the tip of my tongue and now my brain has that Windows Vista hourglass...

Let me reboot...

Okay, NOW we're current.

For the season so far:

Sanchez yards including rushing: 782.

Cassel yards including rushing: 516.

Difference: 266 yards.

Current overall QB ratings have not been posted to ESPN yet.

So Guardian, did you play at Coffeyville? I know Jonathan Joseph and Reggie Nelson were first round picks and they went to school there. Nelson didnt play though if I remember his scouting report.

One thing that TheFacadian is right about in this thread is that JUCOs get a lot of D1 talent. Lots of players spend two years at a JUCO before being able to transfer into a BCS, FCS or D2 school. Some schools devote much of their recruiting resources to landing JUCO transfers.