He'll surely appreciate your patience.

LMAO

Babb implying that it's going to be hard to find a coach outside the tree because of the insistence of following the Patriot Way to the letter.

ROFL

:huh:

Crennel is balls, period...

MCD is a cheating little ass hat..

Who is left?

Mangini ?


Maybe just bring in Belicheck, queen bee.

Wouldn't that require us to start a 5th round pick out of the Big Ten?

Just sayin'...

No shit. Finding Tom Brady at 199 is very difficult!

Didn't you see that long FG yesterday? That was money baby!

Pretty sure Mangini is like that show Burn Notice, he's been blacklisted from the Pats Tree for selling them out or whatever the hell

I'm sick to my stomach that I might have to admit one of my worst thoughts. I've allways been supportive of pioli , but ive had a fear that Halley was sabotaged by pioli. Pioli is too smart not to get Amy depth, but if he didn't want Halley to have a legit chance to succede. If pioli did this because of his own ego at the expense of the great chief fans that support this team makes me sad.

If pioli tries to sell us on mcdaniels and cassel with no legit backup I'm gonna be done supporting this team till pioli is gone.


Sorry guys I don't post on here cause I
Allways attacked for my opinion that's those people right. However deep down We are all chiefs fans and can all agree mcdaniels better not be the new coach.

To me its kind of simple. Whoever was at fault for whatever, this team is pretty good if you get them healthy, get them a real QB, and find a RT. Even just a decent coach should do well with that. If he sticks with Cassel, I don't think anything else he does matters.

I just don't see him drafting a QB and letting Cassel play for only a little bit longer. Either he sticks with Cassel to the bitter end for the next year or two, or you get rid of him altogether.

I hate Cassel as much as anybody but he is the least of the Chiefs problems. It all starts at the top

There is no Patriots Way. There is no Green Bay way. There is no Steeler Way.

The "way" is to draft well, make good free agent decisions and surround them all with a HOF quarterback. Win championships.

Did the Steeler Way work when Neil O'Donnell was back there slinging it?

They tried to copy the 49'ers way back in the 90's.

FIND YOUR OWN ****ING WAY.

WHICH MEANS DRAFTING A FRANCHISE QB.

And the ONLY reason he even made it to the sb was a "miracle"

**** Jeff Fisher and any other similar possibility as Haleys replacement.

Thanks hemied

I'm just sad and worried I love this team but I can't support this crap anymore

I'm cool with cassel if we draft a future QB in first round

If mcdaniels comes in I just can't support this team

The problem is Pioli is blind to Cassel. Every decision that has ****ed this team from coaching to drafting, has been because of Matt Cassel.

As an OC I'm fine with mcdaniels as our HC heck no that will make me want to throw up.

If McD went with Tebow, maybe there's a snowballs chance in hell he'd want an RGIII.

ugh...

i really felt like if castle had drank anti-freeze before the season and they actually drafted a qb, todd would have succeeded, then there's the injuries...

clark needs to spank pioli and tell him to draft a qb who can throw the ball to bowe, and the other guys of course...

Chief country is dead on right how many times have we heard that if Matt is surrounded by the right players he will be effective.


Hmm I allways thought great QBs make the players around him better not the other way around.

No the problem is Clark Hunt and his absentee ownership. Until people wake up and realize that the team will continue to suck shit. The only thing Clark and the Hunt family care about is making money so hit him where it hurts.

How embarrassing must it be around the league to see this organization so tied up in knots over the good graces of ****ing Matt Cassel?

Way to flip flop.

It all starts when you get "that guy"

Maybe that's Stanzi.

:facepalm:

If any one is bored, Castaway is on FX right now.

I've seen too many instances of the players around him doing their job and Cassel utterly failing to capitalize to ever think he'll be effective.

i like the way you think...

#Chiefs LB Johnson on Haley: "We defeinitely (sic) believed in him. ... I hope he does well in the future."

FAX

Like others have said, I just can't take much more. There is only some much you can take when you live and die on this team, reading every day hoping that their damn UDFA's work out. What the **** is the point. The league is about the QB, and the worst part isn't that we don't have one, its that our GM THINKS we ****ing do.

Its been said 1 billion times, maybe literally that many at this point, it doesn't matter what we do with the rest of the roster or who the head coach is. If we let Matt Cassel lead this team we are a lost-cause. Even if they do draft a QB under Cassel they will never let that person have a real chance of playing for atleast a year, atleast.

This franchise reeks of failure.Over the last few games I've been coming to terms with that. I haven't even been caring lately. The team's play has not mattered anymore, good or bad.

We root for a losing franchise.

It's time to stop caring. The Chiefs are no different than the Cleveland Browns.

No, Matt Cassel is hardly the least of the Chiefs problems. Justin Houston's lapses in coverage may be the least of the Chiefs problems.

Matt Cassel is a massive problem. Probably the 2nd most of the Chiefs problems.

The fact that he's not as responsible for this trainwreck is the coat-tail rider in the big chair hardly means he's 'the least of our problems'.

this

QBs make coaches

and Pioli has proven he knows nothing about QBs

Yeah, because me saying that "maybe it's Stanzi" but still saying over and over that I would take a quarterback in the first round is deserving of that response.

Let me also say this:

Those of you that shoot down the chance of him being "the guy" without even being given a chance are worse than the guys that think he IS the end all be all.

Pest you obviously missed what I said two months ago that I admited I was wrong bout cassel. Even with time he panics he will never be a legit QB.

Yes I've seen the light but if mcdaniels becomes our HC we are screwed. I want to still believe in pioli that now is getting shaky too especially if no QB is drafted and mcdaniels is hired ads HC.

Wright ripping Bill Williamson's list of potential candidates.

Kirk Ferentz - why the Chiefs might be interested - Ferentz and Pioli are old friends.

"Might as well hire the best man from his wedding then."

I think it is pretty sad and depressing that there is a slight chance that because Haley and Pioli disliked each other they each may have tried to sabotage different aspects of the team to hasten a divorce.

Pioli leaving so much money on the table and the team being very thin.

Haley going with Muir and Palko, putting Hudson back on the bench yesterday. Looking and acting like a bum on purpose.

Pretty pathetic all around.

No he won't. And i hope he's not that stupid. The only thing worse for Pioli to do than hiring Weis is to hire McDaniels.

Bittersweet for me. If he does, it won't be Joshy boy. But it will not be with the idea of a future Lombardi trophy. It'll be designed to sell tickets.

Maybe it's a feather in Haley's cap that he won the games he won.

I would if he were 10 years younger and did not hire D coaches.

:spock:
This I agree with wholeheartedly. I think Cassel has reached his highest potential, and that is a game manager (on a good day) who would serve a team well enough as the back up QB.

You stupid, cocksucking, ****ing whore: Cassel was around when we lost 3 in a row by a combined score of 109-27 to start the season 0-3.

I would take 5 more years of Haley if it means you would go away forever you worthless bitch.

While I think Pioli might have done it in other ways, leaving so much money isn't one of them.

Going out and overpaying for fa's wasn't helping this team.

Wright talking about the secrecy around Arrowhead.

The Patriot Way Fort Knox approach is fine if you're winning.

If you suck, no one is going to stand for it. Pioli so arrogant that he never considered a backlash.

What if we lose. What if the QB sucks. What if we have to hire the HC.

They never had a contingency plan, and it's blowing up in their faces.


Mentioned how someone asked Mike Tomlin about Ben's injury after the game Thursday night, and he went through ALL the injuries. Not just Ben's.

Hell, we still don't know what happened to Cassel except he had surgery on his hand.

Acknowledge your mistakes and move on, or stay stubborn and fail miserably.

Anyone have any doubt which direction Pioli will take?

Sabby?

PLEASE NO HCs FROM THE PATRIOT TREE! Has there been one that has succeeded?

Don't hold back man, let it all out.

Awesome. :clap:

I am going to make myself happy and cling to the 5% chance that Pioli will draft a QB in the first round.

There's no waybin he'll Pioli hires a coach who will say no to him.

That takes me back to the old days of the Planet.

Again I'm fine with the secrecy if they are winning, like stated.

I'd like to think he would acknowledge his mistakes and move on, but he hasn't had any signs that he will.

Either way it's win win. He does move one, gets a qb, we win. He doesn't we suffer thru 3 or 4 more years and he's fired moving us on the merrygo round again, hopefully drafting a qb.

East coast bullshit doesn't work in the Midwest.

The first question a potential coach is going to ask Scott Pioli in an interview is, "what is your plan with Matt Cassel?"

The answer to that question is likely to deter anyone from outside the tree from taking this job.

Hell anyone from the tree likely will be the same.

Shut the **** up about Ricky "bench warmer" Stanzi. You know for a guy who sucks his own dick around here you have been NOTHING but FAIL the last several months. **** off.

Those from the tree likely feel the same as Pioli does - they can be successful with Cassel.

Those outside know better.

Yeah... that will be one incredibly awkward obstacle to overcome in the hiring process...

Which makes me think this franchise is ****ed for the foreseeable future...

Yup.

Well we know how Belicheck feels. Apparently all the leaves from the tree wanna prove the trunk that they can hold the tree up when he couldn't.

And this is why I think RAC is our next head coach.

I'm fully expecting RAC to stick around in some capacity.

I'll let ya know when I interview. I was the flower boy at his wedding.

If he's gonna be the defensive guy, that's fine.

Then you have a fighting chance.

That's not really a very nice thing to say to the mentally challenged. She's the same poster that is a raider fan who also thinks she can be a Chiefs fan. She cheers for the Axis AND the Allies when watching history channel.

It doesn't work that way, Sprocket.

I'm also starting to think that will be the case. McHoodie and Mangini would be a tough sell to the fans but I am already starting to see people clamoring for RAC (not on CP). :facepalm:

Here is something interesting to think do u think palko gets booed in arrowhead if he starts Sunday??

I think we are screwed if cassel is starting and we have no backup plan when he screws up again

If hindsight is any indicator, I'd give it 50/50.

There is no possible way they can go with Cassel still. Pioli has to ****ign know by now he's not the guy not by a damned long shot. If he doesnt, then we best hope Stanzi is the next Tom Brady and he gets to start and does well.

There is no way ill get Sunday Ticket next year unless they give it for free if Cassel is the qb. Im not going to get up on 3-4 hours of sleep to watch his ass take snaps from under center anymore. **** him.

I feel sorry for the kid but he isn't good enough to be an NFL starting QB

Well, I wouldn't want him to be the Offensive guy ;)

If we have a #8 and go Tackle I'd try to get a stud LT and do Albert's career a favor by switching him to RT or LG where he just might have all pro potential.

Any solid reason why not? I'm all for trotting Stanzi out there and having him show us what he's got.

ABSOLUTELY this. Even as a DC he is not irreplaceable. Frankly I like an aggressive, take the ball away D much better than a bend/don't break.

As I mentioned, when Pioli hires his boy Josh we will know that attire and sideline behavior does not count but buddy system does.

I can totally see that. He just had that kind of personality. Good for him. I would have liked us to have kept a guy that was real and flushed away those engaged in office politics.

This, reminds me totally of my ex boss whom I beat in court to get reinstated. If we ever find out that this is true I will switch from angry-at-Pioli to hate-Pioli. Just my personal feeling.

Yep, the Rams are setting the world on fire! Their QB actually regressed under this jerk.

That's the aura I got from this team. More evidence that we did fire the wrong guy.

I second that. I just can't understand why they don't even want Stanzi to succeed. I don't say he will, but as I have been screaming and pulling my remaining hair out all season, lets get them acclimated to actual NFL games and see whether we have an unpolished diamond or an unpolished turd. If per chance it's an unpolished diamond wouldn't that be THE BEST SCENARIO for the Chiefs?

LMAO

There's so much stuff being said that it's hard to know what is true. Let me be one of the many to predict a McDaniels hiring. That's why we picked up Orton, to compete with Cassel next offseason for the cheater.

I heard a rumor Haley had to jump up and down on a table and scream at the top of his lungs to get Pioli to agree to draft Berry.

Any one else ever heard that?

So, she has no right to an opinion? Man, I know you are angry, overwhelmed by the events of the day, etc. But let's not lose sight of we are supposedly civilized.

The only thing you'll hear at Arrowhead Sunday.
GO PACK GO

Ooops, looks like Failey is gone and I'm still here. So take that and some Midol.

Gonna be fun to watch Cassel and Pioli carry on and make heads explode. Especially if, when, they succeed. LMAOLMAOLMAO

I heard he couldn't even get Pioli's attention then until he did a strip tease on the table.

They looked terrible with Cassel as well. Are you purposely trying to go against the grain or do you truly believe what you are saying?

I HONESTLY believe that Cassel will NOT SUCK with ONE offensive coach and a coach that he can work with. He may not be the next Tom Brady, as some believed he was supposedly promised to be, but he will be a serviceable QB who can win some games. Somehow Cassel gets blamed for sucking when his stupid coach could not keep an OC on staff. I think that dysfunction and turnover absolutely played a part in Cassel's lack of progress.

I also think they should draft someone so I don't agree with Pioli's all eggs in Cassel's basket if that is what he intends to do.