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People say that because it was a top 5 defense the 2nd half of the year last year. They faced Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, and Big Ben in that stretch, so the people calling it a fluke are talking out of thier ass.
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Ol "Hot Tub" Boss played pretty good last night what I saw
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This was "2011 season meltdown" part II. DJ got the dumbs again too. |
Some of you guys are crying over nothing.
It's the preseason. Do you bitches think GB is in chicken little mode because they lost to the Browns like 100-5? Peyton Manning has 0 tds and like 4 picks. It's preaseason...we have no idea what the two teams coaching staffs wanted to get out of this game, therefore it's hard to judge anything but one on one performances in these matchups. Especially in game two of the preseason. |
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Those cancel each other out IMO. Look, was it a good pick at 36? Probably not. Has Dexter shown year to year improvement? Absolutely. His routes this preaseason have been great. Not good, GREAT. He is getting separation on nearly every route he runs and will help us win games this year. |
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Baldwin, IMO, has been disappointing to date but hopefully, that changes quickly. |
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Even if he was, he was well worth the risk. His upside is an elite receiver. |
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I have said this consistently since we drafted him: Baldwin has Fitz-level upside.
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Welp, at least I was able to download and configure Opera during the game since the beasts removed Chrome! We'll see...
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Think Rice still would be miles ahead in stats without Montana and Young? Don't get me wrong Rice with his work ethic would still be in the elite class but he wouldn't be miles ahead of everybody if he had he to deal with QB's like Cassel. He just happened to get lucky having those HOF QB's for the majority of his career(how many WRs get that lucky btw) combined with his work ethic to be the best. |
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He seemed to get there without a quarterback. |
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Shrink is an idiot. This is not new. |
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No one is questioning whether Baldwin has Fitz tools and Fitz type of play in him but it sure helps when you don't have to deal with an injury during a strike ridden year and have a HOF QB throwing to you to get your career off to a great and fast start like FITZ and RICE did !! |
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In the first picture it looks like Cassel is waiting for #80 to get open and see which way the LB is going. Is he covering #80 or #22. If Cassel is following #80 with his eyes and the LB can read that then there is no reason to follow #22 What is more disturbing is who is at the 48 yard line and wide open? |
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I just don't understand how the hell people (aka Clayton) keep bashing Cassel for this performance?
13/18, 142 yards, 8 yard average per completion, 4/6 on 3rd down all with his WR fumbling and his OT ruining a drive with 2 straight penalties. Yes Cassel has been bad the past 3 years, but the way he's playing right now is encouraging. He plays like he did in 2010 and we win the division. |
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When 10 of his completions are bullshit garden variety dumpoffs, I can see where we're headed. Especially when his idea of "getting the WR involved" is dumping it to Dexter. That said, the 3 completions where he threw the ball down the field were very nice. Kevin Boss FTMFW. |
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He looked pretty good considering Bowe wasn't playing.
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Quarterbacks who keep dumping the ball short are like catnip to good defenses. |
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The fear is that the chiefs win the division in unimpressive fashion, lose in the playoffs, but this team becomes further disillusioned that cassel is the answer. We'd be a lot less pessimistic if it didn't seem like this front office as bending over backwards to stubbornly prove that cassel is our long term answer. |
Bowe catches that ball Cassel throws in the end zone. Is anyone else not impressed with Baldwin at all?
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So far the highlight of his career is beasting Jalil Brown in training camp. |
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When we ran more than we passed we won 10 times. We also lost a game (Houston) where we ran more. (There may be more than this one, but I don't care to go back and look right now) When we passed more than we ran, we lost. 2012... First half under Cassel... Game 1. Ran more times. Up at half... Won Game 2. Passed more times. Down at half... Lost If we run more times than we pass in 2012 then you may be correct. We just may win the division. Just like we did in 2010. |
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We weren't losing against the Rams because we passed more than we ran. Our D was shit and we turned the ball over.
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We're gonna be primarily a running team. That's our identity with a QB like Cassel. If he's passing the ball more than 30 times then we're screwed. He's a game manager. Run the ball, play defense, don't make mistakes, check downs are ok, etc. That's the way it looks so far anyway. When Cassel has to throw the ball a lot even HE looks uncomfortable. I don't think he wants to be "the guy."
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I'm just stating the facts, and I will sit back and wait for you to disprove this... Not always... in either case... but more likely than not... when we throw more than we run with Matt Cassel, we lose. When we run the ball more, we win. Facts are facts. I will wait for your rebuttal to disprove this. |
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Throw to Jon Baldwin complete but fumbles = lose. Therefore, we must not complete passes to Jon Baldwin. Disprove that. |
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Did you know that on average when a team throws more than they run in a game lose the game? Not sure if the dumb point, thats not really a point, is meant to be a shot at Cassel, but as was said earlier, Cassel was one of the positives from the Rams game. Now, disprove that Jon Baldwin must not catch a pass or we lose. |
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Pro-rated out, in a full game that is 36 passes and 26 runs. In the past, for the Chiefs that translates into a losss. For the elite QB's... not so much. Again, this is not always the case. But it is the norm. Cassel 3:16 |
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In Fitzgerald's second season, well before Warner became the starter, he caught 103 passes, the most in a single season for 1409 yards and established himself as one of the elite receivers in the league. Just shut up, you dipshit. You have never gotten a single ****ing thing right. Ever. |
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It's kind of goes back to what everyone is/was blasting Clay about earlier in the thread. Checkdowns are not going to get it done. |
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See how often they throw. See how often they run. Then get back to me. Hint: they throw more than they run. This isn't 1995. |
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I've done the research. I'm guessing at this point several have checked my research. No one has disputed it. Not even Poili. |
Why are people arguing 2011 Matt Cassel on the 2012 game 2 thoughts thread?
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I'm arguing the 40+ starts in his Chiefs career Matt Cassel vs 2012. Run more we probably win. Throw more, most likely we lose. |
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If anything Cassel kept them in the game by passing. |
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