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Better?

He doesn't have a weak arm. That's ****ing nonsense.

Barkley is the best QB in this draft. The situation we are in we have to take the best QB in this draft and he's that.

I also think the USC QB argument is ****ing garbage. It's an entirely new regime. Saying he won't pan out because QBs that played there in the 90s or 2000s didn't is absurd.

I don't think Barkley is a fantastic prospect, but this is the situation we are in. We suck on years the talent isn't deep and we win 7 games when it is. I don't think he's a super prospect, but he's the best of what's there.

I'd be OK with Barkley.....he could end up being the 'Aaron Rodgers' of 2013, where he falls to a lower 1st round pick and there are 20 something teams kicking themselves a year or two later...

I haven't watched a ton of his games, but he seems solid and NFL ready in the ones I have watched.

I've watched him for 4 years. That throw showed off his arm strength. It is just one play, but when you can make that throw, you can make all the throws.

You have to take best available I agree. If he's best available, sure take him. I don't think he'll best available come draft day. I could be wrong. Not saying I'm right.

The Chiefs are picking first in this draft. If they want Barkley, they have to take him at 1.

I'm liking Murray the most. Despite pooping the bed in the first half vs UF he came back strong and played well leading the team to victory. He also appears to have the stronger more accurate arm. I think he'd declare if we leaked that he'd go #1 overall.

At this point, who's going to overtake him?

Smith could, but he has more flags right now than Barkley.

Aaron Murray sucks. DO NOT WANT

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I think he's good, but his accuracy has been very questionable this year.

I also don't think there's a chance he's the #1 QB taken in any draft.

what?

i'd be pissed if we used a 3rd on that choker

Right but lets just say USC keeps losing games and we draft Geno Smith and not Barkley...

I think he could end up being the guy that a bunch of teams kick themselves for passing on (like Rodgers)

Thats all I am saying...

If we spend our #1 on Barkley, I'm fine with it at this point.

He isn't playing with WR's that completely overmatch the opponents like Barkley is.

Marqise Lee would have ripped Barkley's head off and pissed down his throat if he messed up that 75 yard TD. Marqise's route was way more impressive than the throw.

Murray needs another year IMO.

When I see Barkley, I see Alex Smith. He's turned out to be a good QB who can get the job done.

Geno Smith seems like more of a high ceiling/low floor option. I'm still on the Geno Smith bandwagon, but I'd love to see us hire a GM who can evaluate QB's because I'm just a fan.

You beat me to it. Alex Smith is a dink and dunk QB who will hit a big pass every now and then. Although, Alex Smith's deep ball is getting more and more consistent these days.

Makes me think more of a Matt Ryan type to me.. But I agree Geno probably has a higher ceiling and 100 percent agree about the GM statement.. Would be nice to have someone who knows qbs

I just don't see that comparison at all.

Some do and some don't. We are not scouts here.


If we get first pick, I'll be happy with any top QB prospect. Just desperate right now. Give me Logan Thomas for ****s sake

I don't, either.

Alex Smith came from Urban Meyer's spread offense. Smith had like five different OC's his first five years and had issues with his mechanics.

Barkley's been in the West Coast offense for four years and has been very successful. Whether or not that translates to NFL greatness is yet to be seen but he's has a very good chance to be a successful NFL QB.

LMAO

JFC, would you kindly shut the **** up?

Hey, you made a logical post other than "JFC you're a dumbass" lol.


I can agree with this and I did forget that Smith had several OC's. That did hurt his performance as young starting QB.

Oh JFC, wait I take back my last post lol.

That didn't hurt him. What hurt him was the fact that he played in Meyer's spread offense and had little to no experience under center. He didn't know how to read defenses and he had to learn the NFL game.

His career has turned a corner the past season and a half but he was was a very poor choice at #1 overall.

I have yet to see Aaron Murray play an entire game as a good QB. Once in awhile he puts together a great half, most of his games are 2.5-3.0 quarters of suck and 1 quarter of wow.

At this point he's not an NFL QB.

I feel the same about AJ McCarron right now.

People pimping him crack me up.

Fair enough on Barkley vs. Alex Smith. I also hadn't thought that Smith was an Urban Meyer guy and went through so much change.

Both guys strike me as high character. Barkley for sticking with his team through the sanctions, and Smith for his willingness to be accountable.

I would expect that with good coaching and a good surrounding cast, both could thrive in the NFL.

To me, one should take either of those guys as your 1st if you could give them 2 or more years to sit without being worried of starting, like Rodgers.

:drool: Yes please.

:eek:

I'm all for Barkley at this point...

Fans/Critics have been giving Barkley the Peyton Manning treatment (not comparing Barkley to Manning). Barkley, like Manning, has been so steady and successful in college for so long that they almost become boring. People start to get bored with them, create undeserved competition (Geno for Barkley/Leaf for Manning). The same started to happen a bit with Luck last year where people started questioning how good he was his senior year, and how RG3 had a higher ceiling (which could eventually be true).

Point being, other than 2 inches, Barkley has shown everything you look for in a franchise QB. He has had big games, put up great stats, has been successful since walking on the field, has good accuracy, leadership ability, durability, and mental toughness. He's the pick if he is there IMO.
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My biggest gripe of Barkley in the past was that his arm was weak. I honestly thought it was Chad Pennington esk . But after watching last night, I saw a lot of throws that require a good arm.

Great arm? No. Good enough? Absolutely.

I don't think I'd be being honest if I were to say that he hasn't looked great while of recent Geno hasn't been stellar.

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I'm on the Geno Smith bandwagon.

But Barkley would be a nice consolation prize, and you have him terribly underrated.

He doesn't have a strong arm, but it's strong enough to make every throw he needs to make in the NFL.

His decision making can be suspect, but he's a smart kid, and that is coachable.

He is, in this class, the most NFL ready of the group.

He is probably best suited for the west coast system, but he will probably succeed regardless of system.

Saw Barkley play last night and thought he was pretty good. No one is standing out above another really lately. I'd think its between Geno and Barkley. Some really seem to like Wilson alot too.

Gonna be crazy at draft time

As long as we pick a QB and Pioli isn't making the pick, I'm good.

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I am not anti-Barkley, but I do wonder about the kid playing in the cold and wind. He has spent his whole life in the cali sun

Size might be a bit a concern for some, as Barkley likely won't measure out taller than 6'1".

Regarding arm strength, I also believe that he can make all of the throws, so we're not talking about Chad Pennington here.

We are talking about a kid that plays the same kind of smart football as Pennington, usually, though.

Well that's not a negative.

He's a polished product whose skill set doesn't necessarily jump off the tape. In this regard, I'm reminded of the talk about Matt Ryan in '08.

No, it isn't a negative.

That is absolutely a positive.

Pennington, with NFL arm strength, would have been an elite QB.

Barkley has everything going against him that I should hate him. he wears #7 and he is USC. I'd be sure thrilled to get him in the draft if not Geno Smith. I'm going to say he can throw an accurate ball 50 yards maybe not all the time but he can work on that aspect in the pros with a good QB coach.

Horse face played at Stanford. Played HS in LA.

It's all about character. How bad do you want to adjust and win. Scouting dept. Ring, ring.

I'm still debating between Smith or Barkley. Barkley has put up some huge numbers but yes he does have some questionable plays at times. Parts of that may be him trying to force things a little to much and that could come from him believing he can make any play at any time.

I'm not worried about his height. If guys like Drew Brees and Russell Wilson can succeed at their height, then Barkley will be more than fine as he is slightly taller.

I do have to say his ability to be pro ready has a lot of bonuses in his favor compared to Geno.

Did you watch Wilson yesterday? After yesterday's slate of games you can see that it's clearly a 3 horse race and it will remain that way till draft day.

Anyone who puts one above the other two as a clear cut winner is just ball washing.

Barkley: I think we can all agree than Geno and Barkley pale in comparison to Luck and RG3. . . the real question is where do they fall with Tannehill

In last year's draft, Tannehill would have been the fourth QB off the board if Barkley had declared.

Watch for Glennon, QB NC State, to be a dark horse.

Glennon will go in the middle or late first round possibly.

Glennon has me intrigued a bit....I want to watch more of what this dude has to offer.

I'm all in for Barkley...he's the safest pick and if we are going to draft a 1st, I don't want to even chance drafting an Akili Smith or a Leaf.

Wilson = Ponder, imo. We can do better than him with as high as we'll be selecting.

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Don't really know much about the guy, but damn is he odd looking. I'll have to do some research on the dude if there's a chance that he's a first-rounder, as some of you say.

It should be interesting to see what whoever runs the Chiefs will do in the draft. It would not shock me to see them trade down with someone who covets one of the top defensive players, pick up extra picks, and then take one of the three that is available at the lower spot...

Man does he ever look frail.

Yeah, that sounds like a great.

:rolleyes:

It's always smart to pass on the most talented players to, you know, stock pile picks for less talented players.

:facepalm:

Dude's got a neck that would make Merton Hanks, Harvey Williams, and a giraffe proud...

**** trading down. Identify the qb you want and take him where you pick. Don't risk losing him

No dark horses for us. We've played 2nd fiddle long enough.

We'll have the top pick. Time to get the best.

Well there's obviously a debate as to who is the most talented or most likely to be successful QB. I'm not endorsing it, but I'm saying if the dude running the Chiefs sees Geno as a risk because he doesn't play under center, and would prefer a more traditional drop back guy, is he going to take Barkley at 1 and pass on Geno, or is he going to trade down three spots and take Barkley? It entirely depends on who is running the team...

I would personally agree, assuming there is that risk.

This will all be made clear after the combine and personal workouts...

He looks like an emu mated with a freakin monkey

The thing I like a out Barkley is he's basically been groomed for this his whole life and has been under te spotlight his whole career at USC and still put up great numbers

You like everyone.

I like things about all the guys at the top but also things I don't like.


I've cooled on geno a lot and am starting to like Wilson and Barkley more

Not a fan of Mike Glennon. Doesn't look good at all.

This will all be sorted out with one more month of football to played, along with Bowl season but most importantly, the Combines.

Who the Chiefs take at #1 overall will be determined by the new GM and coach, not by these "phantom" scouts on the internet.

It always amazes me that people like guys like ****ing Walterfootball seriously. The dude started an internet site about football in the 90's and is wrong about virtually everything, year in and year out, yet people post links to his site (and other equally dopey sites) as "proof" of something.

But the bottom line is that you don't **** AROUND with QB's. If you need a guy and you're at #1 overall, you ****ING TAKE HIM.

Anything else would be Pioli level reeruned.

Same.

There's a lot of intriguing guys this year. IMO We should go with Barkley in the 1st, and take a stab at somebody else in the 2nd or 3rd.

This

Identify your guy an take him. Don't **** around

Curious Dane , who are you leaning toward?

If he declares and fell I'd love to take Barkley in the first and bray in the third.

Never happen but anyway

Hope you know something that we don't...

The more I watch the more I see the Matt Ryan comparisons. He's shorter by a bit tho.


I actually think he has a higher upside than most.

It would be more likely that Bray went first and Barkley slipped.

Nah bray just hasn't put it together. He has as good of wrs as Barkley does. He has all the physical tools as well he just can't put things together it seems

Are you trying to say that Bray is going to go ahead of Barkley?

I've tried and tried and hoped for bray to get his shit together. He's physically the best guy in this class


By all accounts however he's a huge tool that isn't up for it

Either he has 2 Adams apples, or his balls have matriculated their way to his neck.

There is more to the QB position than physical tools. See Leaf, Russell etc.....