Hear hear.

There is no point to a figurehead position.

What does this even mean?

Marty would greet fans as they enter the stadium?

If so, yeah, he's probably qualified for that, although I personally wouldn't want him around due to his bad karma.

LMAO

Marty's desperation proves my point. Nobody's knocking on his door. And it doesn't matter anyway because the Chiefs, not Marty, decides if he's going to be a long-term GM. And Clark Hunt, a young guy, isn't about to make a desperation move for a guy who will be 70.

And nobody is suggesting Schottenheimer pick his coach. I am suggesting he run the scouting operation and help Hunt make a better decision on the next GM. For one year. Where did you see the story that Schottenheimer consulted Hunt to sign Pioli? Do you really think it makes sense that Schottenheimer, after getting into fistfights with AJ Smith, would have consulted Pioli to take a GM with a notorious reputation for being a tyrant? C'mon, man.

You know as well as I do, there is A LOT of fans in KC that just LOVE Marty.

Clark may feel It would bring people back.

I am in no way in favor of this.

I loathe Marty.

Seriously, you must be a troll because no one is this ****ing stupid.

Seriously. Word fail.

:facepalm:

He could hand out sale circulars!

Just hire ****ing Russ Ball if you want a connection to the Marty.

Hunt was definitely consulting with Schottenheimer before Pioli was hired.

Whether he recommended the hiring is anyone's guess.

It's certainly possible.

The larger point is we really don't need a 70-year old in any position of authority right now.

Show me where Schottenheimer consulted Hunt on Pioli. That's news to me, but maybe I'm just forgetting.

Come on, Dave: Clark may be somewhat disconnected but he's not stupid. He's an college grad that worked for Goldman Sachs. He's not some guy that looking to the past. He's a forward thinker that expects results. Quick results.

Those "fans" can **** themselves. The LAST people in the world that Clark Hunt needs to please are Deb Detweiler and her ilk.

If we hired Marty in any fashion though I'd only assume it would come with Brian Schottenheimer. Not a fan of him at all.

You don't know what a Figurehead is?

Someone who is in a position of name only. No actual decision-making responsibilities.

It was pretty well documented at the time that Marty consulted on the hire.

So why hire him? What would be the point?

The Chiefs have a built in fan base in KC. Hiring Marty while giving him absolutely no authority would be insulting to him and the fans.

Again, it makes no sense.

I don't think this is true. Marty has stated many times that he doesn't want to coach in the NFL again. He took the UFL job because he wanted to coach again without the pressure of the NFL.

He was 14-2 when he was fired. I don't believe for a second that no one in the NFL was interested. Keep in mind that SD has been underachievers since he was fired. They played better under him.

I am fully convinced that he is a troll.

From his posts about Pioli, Haley and Cassel over the years lead me to believe he's a serious version of L.A. Chiefsfan.

At least LAC was funny. This guy is just dumb.

Ok, then fair point, and I'm wrong. It's really surprising to me, but I get it.

Either way, the Chiefs should hire a consultant. I really don't care who.

Prove otherwise.

I'd rather the Chiefs hire Marc Ross and Mike McCoy than Marty.

When you prove your assertion. It works both ways. We both are stating an opinion. If you don't like it, then maybe you shouldn't be on a DISCUSSION FORUM.

I'd rather hire Cody Ross and Mike McCoy the Toronto Blue Jay's player than Marty.

Yes. And its exactly why Marty would never go for it.

It would insult US. Chiefsplanet.

Chiefs fans, in general, are dumb. They would love it.

He hasn't been hired for any NFL position since 2006.

Your turn.

And again, I don't know where you're coming from with this. I've been one of Pioli and Cassel's biggest critics for 1-2 years. You're the only one that thinks I'm any kind of an apologist for this organization.

I would rather we hire Diana Ross and Hatfields/McCoys than Martha...

Of course he wants back into the NFL. No question about it.

http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post...nted-bills-gig

Sure, it's just me.

LMAO

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x...CA/jani902.jpg

C'mon, man...:shake:

No retreads period.

He hasn't sought out an NFL position since 2006. Your turn.

The Chiefs need to hire a consultant with authority. It's first of all, the single greatest PR move because it allows you to fire Pioli today. You can't fire him today without an interim guy because the scouting operation goes to complete shit.

Fire Pioli. Hire a consultant. Have the consultant run the scouting operation for a year, collect candidates for GM, and start showing the media/fans that they are serious about opening the Chiefs back up to the fans. That is more than just a figurehead position.

No proof, just unattributed assertions.

ROFL Wrong.

Your article HAS NO SOURCE.

:shake:...C'mon, man.

Bullshit.

LMAO

Furthermore, I don't think any NFL owners or GM's forgot about him.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...fjlP_blog.html

http://www.tampabay.com/sports/footb...ng-job/1209979

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...s-coaching-job

It cites more than one source. Come on, quit being stupid.

You're really embarrassing yourself.

After 1998 why is Gods name would anyone want Marta back?

His personnel choices and the Monday Night meltdown were enough for any Chiefs fan.

Come on, Dude, eat your crow. It's been 21 minutes.

Response?

The Raiders won in OT.

1-15.

I hope so but I doubt it. It's going to be really tough to suck more than Jacksonville and Cleveland.

Cleveland will beat the Chiefs head-to-head. They're playing hard and with a new owner, they're coaching and playing for their jobs.

Jacksonville still plays a few bad teams and will likely squeeze out another win. They still have Tennessee twice and Buffalo.

The Chiefs are turning over the ball at a historic rate. They're giving up tons of points to bad teams. They don't have a QB and if they continue to run Charles, he'll likely breakdown. Plus, after about 10 losses, these guys will quit, consciously or subconsciously.

1-15.

We might not even lead the whole year! LMAO

Just imagine how close it was to being 0-16.

FXD.

Does this rule out a playoff win?

Let's ask Devard Darling.

What's up your ****ing ass?

Your mom's hand or your dad's? Or both?

LMAO

Dane, King of dishing it out but not taking it.

Why is there an Arkansas QB in your sig claiming arrival in my fair city sometime in the near future?

Lose a bet?

Maas is gonna look stupid when this doesn't happen.

Who the hell fires their GM in the middle of the season? The coach, yes.

Damon Huard disagrees with you.

Guys who hire Matt Millen and Scott Pioli.

We should of done it... IF our owners balls dropped, it would of happened.

What the **** you talking about?

I was optimistic for a few weeks this preseason. Get over it.

You're acting like a beaten ex-girlfriend.

You were homer for this team all offseason....LMAO...don't deny it. The proof is there in your posts.

And I'm talking about you being a complete ****ing asshole to people on this board for years (which I appreciate, don't get me wrong)...and now when someone trolls you a little bit you can't take it. LMAO

It's priceless.

LMAOLMAO

All? I didn't return here until very late July. I don't know how you can say "All".

Furthermore, once I saw a couple of games, I changed my mind immediately.

And those "people" you describe are still ****ing clueless. Excuse the **** out of me for having a little optimism before the games started.

JFC.

In July, you were homer for this team.

Which means you formed an opinion before anyone had snapped a ball. Which means you were homer all offseason. Simple.

Kudos for waking the **** up.


You are excused.

I think everyone expected this team to be better, based on the way the defense played last year and JC and EB returning. Talk about disappointment.

General optimism isn't homerism.

I was optimistic.

Hell, all the national talking heads had us winning the division.

This is just ****ing reeruned.

Most people, whether national or local sportswriters, pundits, etc. all felt like the Chiefs were likely to be a playoff team, if not the division winner. On paper, the 7-9 team from last year should have been better considering the early losses of Charles, Berry and Moeaki, in addition to the "upgrade" of the offensive line, development of Baldwin and the arrival of Daboll.

As a matter of fact, anyone who thought they would suck after last season was probably a hater, because logic suggests that this team should have been better than the 2011 team.

I don't know how that qualified me as a "homer", especially since I reversed course early on.

Logic didn't suggest that whatsoever.

We hired Romeo Crennel and stood pat with Matt Cassel. LMAO

And then we got served with a much tougher schedule (devoid of the Tim Tebows, Curtis Painters and Caleb Hanies we feasted on a year ago).

It was amazing the homerism around this place. Chiefs fans were all duped.

Including the great McCloud. 12 wins? A playoff win? Trent Green 2.0?

Sad.

The Browns got a new owner, Jimmy Haslem.

Within a few weeks, they were openly vetting out General Managers. Soon after that, Holmgren announced his retirement and Joe Banner has essentially taken responsibility for the team as a "consultant."

It's not like this is unusual. Let's also not forget that we saw the writing on the wall for Carl well before the season ended.

Holmgren was team president, not GM. He didn't retire, he was told he was out at the end of the year. Banner is a minority owner and will be the club president.

None of this is unexpected and was pretty much set it motion before the season even began.

You're smoking crack AND you're taking my comments out of context.

But go ahead and continue to stalk me. It only makes you even more pathetic.

Yep.

Holmgren was fired 'nicely'.

Was BS as most here said. NOTHING Is going to happen. It will be businesses usual tomorrow at 1 Arrowhead As they stare down 1 - 7.

Year 4 of Pioli...ROFL

Not really dude.

You thought this was a good football team, and you thought it all offseason.

ROFL

Homer Dane, never thought I'd see the day.

**** man, you believed in Romeo Crennel? Why?

Being optimistic before the season began didn't mean we were homers.

Thinking we could come back and take the divison at this point? Definitely.

I thought this team was good enough to overcome Cassel's suck.

I thought Crennel learned from his experience in Cleveland.

Obviously not.

I've learned that suck is infectious and there is no hiding it.

Again, unless you were stalking me, how in the Hell could you possibly know what I thought, let alone what was happening in my life, before July 2012?

Trust me, I wasn't following the Chiefs until I began posting again. I didn't even watch the NFL Draft.

Your definition of "homer" needs adjustment.

Believed is a stretch. I thought Romeo did well last year after taking over a team in turmoil, if not outright devastation.

Once again, I had far too many things in my personal life happening to pay much attention to the 2011 Chiefs. I had the Ticket and had the games on but didn't pay much attention.

It just wasn't a priority.

You thought this was a good team. IN JULY.

That implies you evaluated the roster and coaching staff during the offseason. Duh.


12-4?

Playoff win?

Trent Green 2.0?

Before the Chiefs had even taken a snap?

Dane, come on.

That's about the MOST homer ANYONE here went.

Own it.

Bullshit.

The Trent Green comment came during a preseason game, as I noticed that behind an offensive line that gave Cassel major protection and time, that it was *maybe* he could be like Green: Good behind a GREAT offensive line, awful behind an awful line (see 2001, 2006, 2007 in Miami).

Yes, I said this team had the potential to win 12 games. Why not? They won 7 games last year without Berry, Moeaki, Charles or Winston, who was supposed to be an upgrade over Richardson (but isn't).

Furthermore, Baldwin was supposed to be better due to a full training camp, Daboll was supposed to be better than "The Sleeper" and Romeo won 2 out of 3 to finish the season.

What's not to like?

Do I REALLY need to dig up all of the preseason predictions? People across the board thought the Chiefs would be a playoff team and division winner. Hell, there were guys that predicted Romeo as coach of the Year!

So stop the shit. I wasn't the only one that entered the preseason with optimism, which QUICKLY dissolved after the second preseason game.

You're being intellectually dishonest but with all the shit you've pulled in the past nine years on this site, I suppose that's the least of your offenses.

I didn't "evaluate" shit.

I'm not going into detail on Chiefsplanet but suffice to say, I've been more than preoccupied with LIFE to the point where the Chiefs weren't even an afterthought.

They were non-existent.

I definately thought they would be better. Dane summed it up nicely. The only major media guy that thought we would suck was Pete Prisco.

In the end it was the Auckland beyond everyones expectations. No one thought we would be this bad.

Dane, I get that. We all make wrong predictions. I think the part that strikes me is that you've been sniping me on multiple threads because I was optimistic about Pioli in the beginning. I've owned up to that and have been a consistent critic for a pretty long time now. Just as you were an optimist of Romeo, but so were many others.

The point is, we're all at a place now where we all agree that everything is off.
Which is why I'm always taken aback when people get singled out for something they said a long time ago.

So you just came on the board and pulled 12-4 out of your ass, with no thought to the draft, free agency or coaching hires.

Sure, Dane. Sure. ROFL

So embarrassed by being a homer all this time, huh?