This.

My theory on that is that women have a natural instinct to be a nurterer. Guys that are independent, have good jobs and have their personal & financial lives don't appeal to them because they don't need "fixing" like the bad boys who don't have their sh*t together.
Another theory is that they are just really shallow and naive and think they can change some obvious loser because he has nice eyes.

I'd like to give some credit to Big Daddy on here for really allowing me to learn what it is to be a man in a relationship and understanding women at a very deep visceral level.

Show me one thats bitter.

Join the military and you'll be fine.

And to tie it in with this thread, women like uniforms, or so I hear.

LMAO

When I dated guys like this (fun and good looking but no regular job) it has been because I enjoyed their companionship but at the same time I knew I could end it at any point because they didn't have their stuff together. there was an easy out. I think that makes me a little messed up but it made sense to me at the time because I wasn't ready to settle down.

One of my exs, now close friend, did/does this.

I found out she was dating a total loser, at least in my eyes. When asked why, she said, "because I knew sooner or later he'd do something stupid and I could leave".

I should add she's now close to 30, has a kid with very little support from the father, living overdue bill to over due bill, starting to show her age, and realizing she ****ed up in a major way.

Everything it is that I don't know.

Breaking up with a good man who you know is in love with you is HORRIBLE. There are few things worse!

Wow that would be a massive pile for either of us.

There's that much I don't know about myself?

I don't know if that makes you messed up, unless you happen to fall in love or have kids with one of those easy outs.

"Everything we don't know" is a huge pile of stuff. Even if it's just psychological it's still pretty daunting

How disappointing.

I don't have a regular job, and I definitely don't have my shit together. Yet women don't seem to be beating down my door. Although, come to think of it, I do fall somewhat short in the "fun" and "good-looking" category. And I'd rather play video games than listen to somebody chatter on about real housewife pawn survivor divers LA, molasses boo boo edition.

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The problem is everyday that goes by that I don't have a job besides my worthless freelance sportswriting job, the less employable I become.

My Discusslogical clock is ticking. It's become very clear to me that I have to get a job that pays better than $500/month and not mooch off my grandfather's money. Women aren't even a worry at this point.

If I'm lucky and work hard, maybe I'll have enough money and be out together enough when I'm 35 to find a hopefully childless 20 something with daddy issues that realizes I have the bankroll to support her needs. Right now I don't see a lot of availability with women my age who are engaged / married on working on cranking out kids.

A woman with a kid from previous relationship = no go, full stop. Why? Because I know relationships aren't perfect and I don't want to be a father figure for a kid and then have to cut them off when shit hits the fan with the kid's mom. It's cruel and I won't do it. If I spend a lifetime alone because of this fact then so be it. At least I'll know I didn't hurt a kid because I split with their mom.

All relationships end in either death or dumping.

Ok soooo....is this some kind of trick? I asked what she wanted to do tonight and if I should eat before she gets here.

"Hello there! I am open to anything tonight. We can watch a movie, or go out. You decide! and you can go ahead and eat, I will probably snack at home."

I want to go drink, but maybe it sounds like she wants to stay in and watch a movie. Ladies? Can you decipher that for me?

I'm not a female, but I would take that as she wants to rent a movie and hang out.

She wants to come over and give u the poo snaps. Have her over bruh.

**** that sucks. I'm going to fall asleep, I know I am. I wake up at 4 am for work. She won't be here til 9.

Sex requires sacrifice.

5 Hour Energy. Hit it now before it gets too late and keeps you up all night.

Edit: Now might be a tad early since you're a west coaster, but soon.

Adderall. Or the local hemp shop will sell you some Chinese shit

It's a trap.

You're early enough in the relationship that whatever you choose won't be automatically wrong.

Enjoy that while you can!

Things went great last night and we're officially "dating" now. Good times.

Did you stay awake?

Haha yep...

Pics or she doesn't exist

Maybe when we take a picture together...

Did you ask her to marry you or are you going to talk to her father first?

I just don't want to pull a pic off her fb and post it here. I'm trying not to be a creep.

thats a wise idea. Infact I wouldnt post a pic of her on here EVER. Too many creepy guys on here from what I've seen

Oh God this makes me feel so uncomfortable.

I work in the same building as my mother. She works on the 4th floor and I work on the 3rd floor. Anyways, she has introduced me to a lot of people in the year + I've been working there. I don't really recognize people when they say hi to me, but they know I'm her son.

This pretty black lady has been saying hi to me a lot and she said something about us being "Secretly Dating." I was like wtf? What is my mom talking about with her? So today I went over to my mom's house in the morning and she said that this lady has a crush on me and that the lady had gone to a fortune teller and the fortune teller told her that she would meet a man at work and he'd be younger. She's 35 and I'm 27, so she's been telling my mom that she's convinced it's me.

That really freaks me the **** out, I don't know what to say to this lady when I see her now. I'm not racist, but I'm not attracted to black women at all. It sorta makes me want to avoid ever going to the cafeteria now.

Just tell her you don't mess around with people from work.

Easy enough.

Smash her anyway.

Tell your mom to back off. This can't end well. Stay with your current relationship. Sounds like you have a good thing going. Good luck.

Try harder.

This. And if she quits......run!

It just suvks cause the chick works with my mom. Who the **** goes to fortune tellers anyways?

Ugh.

Has anyone had a friends with benefits situation work out well?

I started one, seems to be ok. She came over the other night, opened the front door, grabbed me by the hand, took me to the room and we did the deed. Got dressed and left. Seems great now...

Its great now but one of you will catch feelings. Either shell get a man and cut you off or shell go all women on you with feelings.

Duh, women do. Just explain the same thing to your mom and things will be fine.

It won't last. They eventually want more than sex.

She already has a man, but isn't in a relationship. We've discussed the no feelings.

They always change their minds.

Abs sore, pelvis sore and bruised. I need to get back into sex shape.

Sorry, I didn't realize it was your first time. I tend to get rough after I've had a few beers.

Back from vacation. Date #3 set for Wednesday. :)

Contrary i dont have kids. *I have a decent job, a home of my own. I actually feel self conscious of this that maybe men don't like a woman that has these things. *I'm not perfect, i clearly have at least a few issues (for example, my love of Chiefsplanet).*:shrug:

I would guess that in this day and age there are probably a few men out there who would be okay with that. Maybe 60 years ago when you were supposed to be barefoot in the kitchen you'd have to be self-conscious about it, and I'm sure there are still plenty around today that might be intimidated by the job and home thing, but I would imagine you're probably okay to most dudes.

Though I would probably go on to say the only thing that really matters is how you feel about it yourself. If that's who you are, and a guy has a problem with it, then, well, bye guy...

At my age those things are almost a requirement. Really I would have a hard time being serious about a gal who didn't have those things. Minus the issues of course, or at least manageable ones.

I don't know why a guy wouldn't like those things. I guess it's possible that some guys just want to be the sole breadwinner and have their significant other be completely dependent on them. If a guy was intimidated by the fact that you are independent and don't need him to support you, then that dude is an idiot.

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Good luck tonight.

Yesterday we went hiking and the trail ends at the beach and then we hung out on the beach for a while and walked back on the sand. Pretty great date.

She's leaving for Vegas / Grand Canyon on Thursday morning for a week or so, but she's spending the night Wednesday and leaving from my house. Perhaps dinner is in order.

ROFL

Thanks for your responses guys. It is funny how I can take a positive and assume it is a dating roadblock. Kind of dumb really!

Also totally off topic but where does a girl have to go to figure out what "rep" is?

Definitely not a negative.

It's under User CP, top left of your screen.

Date #3 = Awesome success. She's a gorgeous girl, but last night she looked absolutely stunning. DaKCMan AP likey.

Date #4 will be setup tonight for either Thurs or Fri.


PBJ

I had hoped this thread wouldn't pop up this week...
Me and my lady friend split up this past Sunday. She had developed quite a drinking problem over the last month and it had gotten so bad that she was leaving the bar around 5 or 6 in the morning and driving over to my house with a ****ing "roadie" - god damn bartender giving her a crown and coke in a plastic cup. We always had a great time going out to the bar together - drinking, shooting pool, etc...
She broke down with me about two weeks ago, saying how sorry she was and she would start to practice moderation... I believed her but now she is back at it.
She's a bartender, her best friends are bartenders, and they all like to go to this bar that is down the street from where I live. The bar closes at 2 but they let a select few people stay as long as they like (usually til 5 or 6 in the morning). She is blowing all her money on $60+ bar tabs 5 or 6 nights a week...
I just couldn't deal with it any longer. It's hard to help someone who doesn't want to be helped. That and I've got my own problems.

Damn dude. Sorry to hear. You've made your choice (the right one, IMO) and now she'll have to make hers.

Thanks.

I feel like I did the right thing... made the right choice. It's just unfortunate...

And it's really unfortunate that I'm going to have to have get a rebound during this healing process... I'm going to try my best to avoid that as I'm really not interested in hurting anyone's feelings. But, it is the best way to get over someone..

Sorry Quikies, I know that feeling all too well.

Hard to hear now, but you're better of for it.

Caddyshack?

And sorry to hear. It's hard to listen to someone say they're going to do their best for the sake of both of you only to watch it not happen.

Thanks man.

I learned a new move last night called the superman.

You spootie on their back when they wake up the next day the sheets are stuck to their back like a superman cape.

Try the Houdini next time.

wow....I'm....I cannot stop laughing.....
I am literally crying......

Pull an angry pirate or you're a bitch.

Monopoly.

I am so getting laid tonight.

What did you do?

Bought a hooker.




:D

Just normal relationship stuff. I just know.

Bartenders are usually pretty crazy. The only profession that I've run into that have more issues are strippers. I've dated both and would never do it again.

Date #4 set for Thursday night.

Yep, I was right. This morning too...

Now she's gone til Monday, going on a jerkfest.