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WakkaWakka 03-13-2013 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Flachief58 (Post 9495171)
Order yours now and burn it with fire!

FYP

TheUte 03-13-2013 08:58 PM

Pawnmower so how the F**k is posting part of an interview with Joe Montana worthy of negative REP.

Are you so insecure you can't even tolerate a different opinion than your own.

Man what a Dick Smokin Pickle Washer you are.

You really need to grow up a little dude.

KurtCobain 03-13-2013 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9495128)
Any one with Damon Huard jerseys out there?

Hootie

FlaChief58 03-13-2013 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9495128)
Any one with Damon Huard jerseys out there?

No but, I do have a Grbac

Sorter 03-13-2013 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheUte (Post 9495584)
Pawnmower so how the F**k is posting part of an interview with Joe Montana worthy of negative REP.

Are you so insecure you can't even tolerate a different opinion than your own.

Man what a Dick Smokin Pickle Washer you are.

You really need to grow up a little dude.

It's probably just backlash from you not knowing that Kaep went through progressions.

Still enjoyable for everyone else though.

Ming the Merciless 03-13-2013 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSKINFLUte (Post 9495584)
Pawnmower so how the F**k is posting part of an interview with Joe Montana worthy of negative REP.

Are you so insecure you can't even tolerate a different opinion than your own.

Man what a Dick Smokin Pickle Washer you are.

You really need to grow up a little dude.

LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO MY POINT WAS IF IT IS SO ****ING COMMON AND AVAILABLE WHY NOT POST THE LINK, LIKE YOU WERE TOLD TO, YOU GOD DAMN NOOB

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TheUte 03-13-2013 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ponderception (Post 9495608)
It's probably just backlash from you not knowing that Kaep went through progressions.

Still enjoyable for everyone else though.

Other than the fact every expert agrees that Kaep's progression are the weakest part of his game.

But go ahead an keep F**K that chicken dude.

Obviously, you need to get out of you parents basement and actually go throw and football once in your life and maybe you will see what I was talking.

Ooops, you mom is calling you need to go do you chores.

Bye Bye

Sorter 03-13-2013 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheUte (Post 9495628)
Other than the fact every expert agrees that Kaep's progression are the weakest part of his game.

But go ahead an keep F**K that chicken dude.

Obviously, you need to get out of you parents basement and actually go throw and football once in your life and maybe you will see what I was talking.

Ooops, you mom is calling you need to go do you chores.

Bye Bye

ROFL


Says the guy who was raped Charlie Weis.

I'm sorry I posted actual NFL playbooks and made you understand how reads work on smash concepts.

Oh wait, no I'm not. You're an imbecile who probably should have been aborted.

TheUte 03-13-2013 09:16 PM

[QUOTE=Pawnmower;9495609]LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO



Nice argument, your logic is impeccable, no wonder you are the man around here.

Maybe you could actually say something useful after you get Ponderception dick out your mouth.

What's that can hear you.

Nope you are just gurgling.

Dud spit out the Jizz.

What's that? Sorry don't understand dick and balls.

When you get outta Ponderception basement maybe we can talk.

TheUte 03-13-2013 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ponderception (Post 9495654)
ROFL


Says the guy who was raped Charlie Weis.

I'm sorry I posted actual NFL playbooks and made you understand how reads work on smash concepts.

Oh wait, no I'm not. You're an imbecile who probably should have been aborted.

So really have you ever actually touched a football really.

Or do you just dress em up like the rest of you dolls.

OOPs sorry guys like you call them collectables I think.

Sorter 03-13-2013 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TheUte (Post 9495665)
So really have you ever actually touched a football really.

Or do you just dress em up like the rest of you dolls.

OOPs sorry guys like you call them collectables I think.

Never.

That's why I understand reads/progressions more than you. ROFL

Ming the Merciless 03-13-2013 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSkinflUte (Post 9495657)


Nice argument, your logic is impeccable, no wonder you are the man around here. Maybe when you get Ponderceptions dick out of your mouth...

Actually I am not 'the man.' Ive only been in training , at the academy's black ops wing for 3 years. I'm barely a journeyman.

Besides, Pponderceptions dick is tasty and its not gay to worship another mans cock if they are really macho.

FlaChief58 03-13-2013 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 9495691)
Actually I am not 'the man.' Ive only been in training , at the academy's black ops wing for 3 years. I'm barely a journeyman.

Besides, Pponderceptions dick is tasty and its not gay to worship another mans cock if they are really macho.

ROFL Except it kind of is

TheUte 03-13-2013 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Ponderception (Post 9495689)
Never.

That's why I understand reads/progressions more than you. ROFL

Yeah I'm sure you are really close to going pro.

Us casual fans that drive you guys/girls "not really sure at this point" nuts because we actually have a life outside of football.

Dude keep trying the Chiefs will be beaten down your door anytime.

I bet you are really good a Madden too.

Nice job SUPERSTAR, you took a conversation out of context and made a big deal out of it.

You are a shining star a SUPERSTAR.

GO tell you mom she was right you really are awesome.

Hurry upstairs we will be here when you get back.

Sorter 03-13-2013 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheUte (Post 9495716)
Yeah I'm sure you are really close to going pro.

Us casual fans that drive you guys/girls "not really sure at this point" nuts because we actually have a life outside of football.

Dude keep trying the Chiefs will be beaten down your door anytime.

I bet you are really good a Madden too.

Nice job SUPERSTAR, you took a conversation out of context and made a big deal out of it.

You are a shining star a SUPERSTAR.

GO tell you mom she was right you really are awesome.

Hurry upstairs we will be here when you get back.

LMAO.

Saccopoo 03-13-2013 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheUte (Post 9495716)
Yeah I'm sure you are really close to going pro.

Us casual fans that drive you guys/girls "not really sure at this point" nuts because we actually have a life outside of football.

Dude keep trying the Chiefs will be beaten down your door anytime.

I bet you are really good a Madden too.

Nice job SUPERSTAR, you took a conversation out of context and made a big deal out of it.

You are a shining star a SUPERSTAR.

GO tell you mom she was right you really are awesome.

Hurry upstairs we will be here when you get back.

Sixth grade English called and wants their money back.

TheUte 03-13-2013 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9495736)
Sixth grade English called and wants their money back.

You have got to be F***ing kidding.

Now English counts.

Hey english police you have a bunch of tickets to write.

Get the F*** outta here the men are talking honey. Get back to the kitchen.

Saccopoo 03-13-2013 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TheUte (Post 9495749)
You have got to be F***ing kidding.

Now English counts.

Hey english police you have a bunch of tickets to write.

Get the F*** outta here the men are talking honey. Get back to the kitchen.

Awww...aren't you a cute little bugger.

Oh, and literacy does go a long way around here in helping your cause. Well, not "your" cause, as it is obvious that "your's" is a lost one, but in case you have an epiphany in the near future and decide to maintain some modicum of rationality and decency in your discourse, you might want to consider utilizing something other than you resembling a toothless, drunk Chinese guy with a mouth full of marbles in attempting to convey your thoughts.

Sorter 03-13-2013 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheUte (Post 9495749)
You have got to be F***ing kidding.

Now English counts.

Hey english police you have a bunch of tickets to write.

Get the F*** outta here the men are talking honey. Get back to the kitchen.

Sexist post reported.

TheUte 03-13-2013 09:40 PM

Dude isn't it all in fun?

Sorter 03-13-2013 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TheUte (Post 9495791)
Dude isn't it all in fun?

Not when dealing with sexist idiots.

BossChief 03-13-2013 09:43 PM

Alex Smith passing + rushing combined...207.7 yards per game (193.1 passing, 14.6 rushing)

Colin Kaepernick passing +rushing combined...318 yards per game (259 passing, 59 rushing)

That's the difference between a game manager and a franchise quarterback.

TheUte 03-13-2013 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ponderception (Post 9495797)
Not when dealing with sexist idiots.

So joking about rape it ok????????????????????????????

Seriously.

Dude you got a f***** up sense of reality.

BossChief 03-13-2013 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TheUte (Post 9495803)
So joking about rape it ok????????????????????????????

Seriously.

Dude you got a f***** up sense of reality.

Go fist your grandmother

Sorter 03-13-2013 09:45 PM

Oh well. I guess I'll have to come to terms with it.

At least I can understand progressions. LMAO

Sorter 03-13-2013 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9495813)
Go fist your grandmother

ROFL

Ming the Merciless 03-13-2013 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheUte (Post 9495791)
Dude isn't it all in fun?

maybe to you, a niners fan trolling a Chiefs board...


To some of us,the chiefs planet message board is everything we have in life

BossChief 03-13-2013 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 9495838)
maybe to you, a niners fan trolling a Chiefs board...


To some of us,the chiefs planet message board is everything we have in life

:spock:

TheUte 03-13-2013 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 9495838)
maybe to you, a niners fan trolling a Chiefs board...


To some of us,the chiefs planet message board is everything we have in life

Well that can't be true, you and Ponderception understand progressions.

Ponderception is going pro.

And one more F***ing time I hate the niners. Rinse and repeat I hate em.

I'm a life long Stl Rams fan.

Rasputin 03-13-2013 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheUte (Post 9495854)
Well that can't be true, you and Ponderception understand progressions.

Ponderception is going pro.

And one more F***ing time I hate the niners. Rinse and repeat I hate em.

I'm a life long Stl Rams fan.

Quit being such a San pillowbitergotcisco pillowbitergot.

Sorter 03-13-2013 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheUte (Post 9495854)
Well that can't be true, you and Ponderception understand progressions.

Ponderception is going pro.

And one more F***ing time I hate the niners. Rinse and repeat I hate em.

I'm a life long Stl Rams fan.

Hooray?


It doesn't make up for your complete incompetence.

Ming the Merciless 03-13-2013 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TheUte (Post 9495854)

I'm a life long Stl Rams fan.

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TheUte 03-13-2013 10:11 PM

Dude, I like it where do I get one?

TheUte 03-13-2013 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ponderception (Post 9495861)
Hooray?


It doesn't make up for your complete incompetence.

Your mom is calling.

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-13-2013 10:14 PM

Great, more Alexsexuals. Just what we needed.
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Sorter 03-13-2013 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheUte (Post 9495921)
Your mom is calling.

Awesome. I love my mother and enjoy our talks.

Sorter 03-13-2013 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie (Post 9495931)
Great, more Alexsexuals. Just what we needed.
Posted via Mobile Device

And I'd thought that I'd raped this one into oblivion.

I guess you really can't fix stupid.

I mean, unless you just gas the poor ****s. Then you can.

TheUte 03-13-2013 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie (Post 9495931)
Great, more Alexsexuals. Just what we needed.
Posted via Mobile Device

Dude why so upset. I bet Geno will still let you suck his D***.

TheUte 03-13-2013 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Ponderception (Post 9495939)
And I'd thought that I'd raped this one into oblivion.

I guess you really can't fix stupid.

I mean, unless you just gas the poor ****s. Then you can.

Dude just because it happened in your fantasy doesn't make it real.

Oh, I think I hear you mom calling you should go.

It is a school night.

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Carlota69 03-13-2013 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ponderception (Post 9495932)
Awesome. I love my mother and enjoy our talks.

LMAO

Sorter 03-13-2013 10:23 PM

Hypothetically, wouldn't it be more demeaning to be raped in terms of understanding football by a high school student/someone who lives with their mother?

Sorter 03-13-2013 10:26 PM

I mean, you're probably what, in your mid/late 40s? Maybe played HS ball but didn't start?

So, I guess you should be envious of a HSer/person who lives with their mother if they're destroying you in terms of simple, basic reads that every quality HS in the country teaches.

FFS, when you get to college (real colleges) it is assumed you know that progression on Smash concepts. Crazy, I know.

TheUte 03-13-2013 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ponderception (Post 9495988)
Hypothetically, wouldn't it be more demeaning to be raped in terms of understanding football by a high school student/someone who lives with their mother?

Umm, no Because I'm not a coach or a player and I have a job.

Umm, a life.

And umm its a game the children play.

I would expect someone with nothing better to do to have a better understanding.

You do realize we are arguing about Billion dollar corporations and Millionaires playing a child's game right.

TimeForWasp 03-13-2013 10:29 PM

Let's trade him for a 1st and a 3rd next year.

NJChiefsFan 03-13-2013 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TheUte (Post 9495999)
Umm, no Because I'm not a coach or a player and I have a job.

Umm, a life.

And umm its a game the children play.

I would expect someone with nothing better to do to have a better understanding.

You do realize we are arguing about Billion dollar corporations and Millionaires playing a child's game right.

Who gives a **** what they get played. I enjoy watching it. Being into it doesn't mean you don't have your priorities straight. You have a job, sick. Nobody else possibly could since they are posting on a message board. Oh wait, you are posting on a message board. Interesting. I hope your job doesn't require that you are smart considering the amount of simple mistakes you make in your typing.

Sorter 03-13-2013 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheUte (Post 9495999)
Umm, no Because I'm not a coach or a player and I have a job.

Umm, a life.

And umm its a game the children play.

I would expect someone with nothing better to do to have a better understanding.

You do realize we are arguing about Billion dollar corporations and Millionaires playing a child's game right.

So, basically anyone coaching any sport is just participating a child's game?

I'm surprised you watch sporting events then. Are you a pedophile?

Rasputin 03-13-2013 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd34 (Post 9495170)
Check what Smith accomplished with the mediocre crew of receivers he had there and get back to me.

Answer: he was one of the top 5 most efficient passers in the league...but it sounds like you won't believe till you see it.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL Why the **** should I believe it untill I see it. It's on them the Chiefs to prove it to the fans that they can turn this franchise into a winner and that includes getting us in position to win a Super Bowl. We don't come close to that then it's been a total ****ing waist with Alex Smith. If he does great then hip hoora for him. I can be happy once they prove it but I'm not going set myself up with false hope that they are going be any good with Alex Smith. I'd rather be proven wrong than be proven right.

DaneMcCloud 03-13-2013 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9496032)
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL Why the **** should I believe it untill I see it. It's on them the Chiefs to prove it to the fans that they can turn this franchise into a winner and that includes getting us in position to win a Super Bowl. We don't come close to that then it's been a total ****ing waist with Alex Smith. If he does great then hip hoora for him. I can be happy once they prove it but I'm not going set myself up with false hope that they are going be any good with Alex Smith. I'd rather be proven wrong than be proven right.

The Chiefs have had exactly TEN losing seasons since 1998 and NOW you want the Chiefs to "prove it"?

LMAO

NJChiefsFan 03-13-2013 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ponderception (Post 9496031)
So, basically anyone coaching any sport is just participating a child's game?

I'm surprised you watch sporting events then. Are you a pedophile?

LMAO

Rasputin 03-13-2013 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9496054)
The Chiefs have had exactly TEN losing seasons since 1998 and NOW you want the Chiefs to "prove it"?

LMAO

They have to prove it with Alex Smith wtf are you talking about? I don't believe it's going work out so yes they have to prove it will. It's been 30 years we havn't drafted a QB with our first pick of the draft and all I wanted them to do is draft a QBotf to be our future hope.

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-13-2013 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9496054)
The Chiefs have had exactly TEN losing seasons since 1998 and NOW you want the Chiefs to "prove it"?

LMAO

Mmm...I thought you were the local ****ing mantra-jukebox of "prove it"?
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jd34 03-13-2013 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9496032)
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL Why the **** should I believe it untill I see it. It's on them the Chiefs to prove it to the fans that they can turn this franchise into a winner and that includes getting us in position to win a Super Bowl. We don't come close to that then it's been a total ****ing waist with Alex Smith. If he does great then hip hoora for him. I can be happy once they prove it but I'm not going set myself up with false hope that they are going be any good with Alex Smith. I'd rather be proven wrong than be proven right.

Well, let's hope that a legit NFL HC like Andy Reid and a QB that doesn't turn the ball over three times a game will be able to take advantage of the talent on this squad.

As everybody knows, there was enough talent on this team last season to win at least 7 games but without a HC that understands both sides of the game combined with a turnover machine at QB all that talent went to waste. Good news is, the talent is still there for the new HC to use. I'm optimistic.

DaneMcCloud 03-13-2013 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9496075)
They have to prove it with Alex Smith wtf are you talking about? I don't believe it's going work out so yes they have to prove it will. It's been 30 years we havn't drafted a QB with our first pick of the draft and all I wanted them to do is draft a QBotf to be our future hope.

What a mess.

First off, the Chiefs believe they've acquired the best possible QB available in 2013. It's hard to argue that fact when the guy has been successful the past two seasons, there was no one available in free agency that could even match his record and there's no one in the draft that is an immediately game changer.

The fact that the Chiefs haven't drafted a first round QB since 1983 is of absolutely no concern to Andy Reid and John Dorsey. They were hired to perform their jobs to the best of their ability, not to carelessly draft a position player because it hadn't been done in 30 years.

Rasputin 03-13-2013 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd34 (Post 9496086)
Well, let's hope that a legit NFL HC like Andy Reid and a QB that doesn't turn the ball over three times a game will be able to take advantage of the talent on this squad.

As everybody knows, there was enough talent on this team last season to win at least 7 games but without a HC that understands both sides of the game combined with a turnover machine at QB all that talent went to waste. Good news is, the talent is still there for the new HC to use. I'm optimistic.

Go. Be Optomistic. I don't give a ****.

I'm not getting excited for something I don't believe is going be anything to be excited about. I'm not setting myself up for disapointment. They all ready disapointed me with the trade and very disapoint we will draft a LTRT with our top pick.

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-13-2013 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9496075)
They have to prove it with Alex Smith wtf are you talking about? I don't believe it's going work out so yes they have to prove it will. It's been 30 years we havn't drafted a QB with our first pick of the draft and all I wanted them to do is draft a QBotf to be our future hope.

Just drink your ****ing Kool-Aid brah! Hopefully we'll soon be treated to some GREAT takes about "how hard it is to win in this league", or how "franchise QB's don't grow on trees" etc. You know, bullshit!
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DaneMcCloud 03-13-2013 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie (Post 9496083)
Mmm...I thought you were the local ****ing mantra-jukebox of "prove it"?
Posted via Mobile Device

JFC.

You cannot "prove" that Jeno Smythe will become an immediate franchise QB. Period. End of story.

TattooBoy wants the Chiefs front office to "prove to the fans" that they're committed to winning, NOW, as if the past 42 years of a mostly losing franchise is somehow insignificant.

Do you understand the diff? Capice?

DaneMcCloud 03-13-2013 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie (Post 9496095)
Just drink your ****ing Kool-Aid brah! Hopefully we'll soon be treated to some GREAT takes about "how hard it is to win in this league", or how "franchise QB's don't grow on trees" etc. You know, bullshit!
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Franchise QB's grow on trees?

Which trees?

Ming the Merciless 03-13-2013 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9496100)
JFC.

You cannot "prove" that Jeno Smythe will become an immediate franchise QB. Period. End of story.

TattooBoy wants the Chiefs front office to "prove to the fans" that they're committed to winning, NOW, as if the past 42 years of a mostly losing franchise is somehow insignificant.

Do you understand the diff? Capice?



Big Difference Between this Dane and the dane of 3 years ago....


Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6487345)
The bottom line is that if you want to win a Super Bowl in this day and age, you're far more likely to do so with a QB taken in the first round of the NFL Draft...........everyone in the NFL knows that the QB position is the most important position today.

Bar none.


Sorter 03-13-2013 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9496105)
Franchise QB's grow on trees?

Which trees?

Patriot trees?


God dammit. ****.

Rasputin 03-13-2013 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9496090)
What a mess.

First off, the Chiefs believe they've acquired the best possible QB available in 2013. It's hard to argue that fact when the guy has been successful the past two seasons, there was no one available in free agency that could even match his record and there's no one in the draft that is an immediately game changer.

The fact that the Chiefs haven't drafted a first round QB since 1983 is of absolutely no concern to Andy Reid and John Dorsey. They were hired to perform their jobs to the best of their ability, not to carelessly draft a position player because it hadn't been done in 30 years.

I am pissed off about it as a fan and I have to
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lcarus 03-13-2013 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9496105)
Franchise QB's grow on trees?

Which trees?

Cassel grew on an AIDS tree.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-13-2013 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9496090)
What a mess.

First off, the Chiefs believe they've acquired the best possible QB available in 2013. It's hard to argue that fact when the guy has been successful the past two seasons, there was no one available in free agency that could even match his record and there's no one in the draft that is an immediately game changer.

The fact that the Chiefs haven't drafted a first round QB since 1983 is of absolutely no concern to Andy Reid and John Dorsey. They were hired to perform their jobs to the best of their ability, not to carelessly draft a position player because it hadn't been done in 30 years.

That's a fatally flawed strategy.

When looking for a QB you need to ask yourself if the player is capable of leading a team to the SB. If he isn't, there is no reason to spend anything on acquiring him unless he's a backup.

Reid and Dorsey's job should be to win a Super Bowl. If they don't feel that there is a QB available in 2013 who can win a SB, that's an acceptable decision, but by committing to Alex Smith and constructing the rest of the team in the style they have, they've essentially said that there is no QB worth it in 2014 and possibly 2015.

It's a classic example of not being able to see the forest for the trees.

It will make the team better in 2013, but that's the equivalent of taking out a cash advance on a credit card to pay your mortgage every month.

I happen to think that Geno Smith can win a Super Bowl, but I understand that such a belief is not a consensus, so passing on him, although a poor decision in my mind, is defensible.

What isn't defensible is picking up a QB that I believe almost no one thinks can win a Super Bowl, because it makes acquiring a truly elite one more difficult.

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-13-2013 11:00 PM

Aye, now THERE's some logic.
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Hammock Parties 03-13-2013 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9496131)
What isn't defensible is picking up a QB that I believe almost no one thinks can win a Super Bowl, because it makes acquiring a truly elite one more difficult.

And compounding that decision with Chase Daniels and $10 million dollars is even more disgusting.

I could get slightly excited/interested/hopeful whatever you want to call it if we rolled the dice on a 2nd round QB this year (after moving back).

We're not even going to do that.

It's at least 3 years of Alex Smith from here on out, and I doubt they pick anyone high in an effort to replace him during that three years.

Alex Smith = the death of Jamaal Charles and Dwayne Bowe.

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-13-2013 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 9496110)
Big Difference Between this Dane and the dane of 3 years ago....

Apparantly, the position is no longer important.
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BossChief 03-13-2013 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9496105)
Franchise QB's grow on trees?

Which trees?

The trees that grow in the first (and early second) round.

Not the "other teams backups" trees.

DaneMcCloud 03-13-2013 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 9496110)
Big Difference Between this Dane and the dane of 3 years ago....

7-9, 2-14 and shitty drafts have basically set this team back to square one.

The Super Bowl is a pipe dream. A winning season, a playoff win - well maybe THEN the Chiefs can talk about a Super Bowl.

Ming the Merciless 03-13-2013 11:03 PM

1) Do you believe that QB is the most important position

If number one is yes:

2) Does Alex Smith help or harm our long term prospects of getting an Elite QB



if number 1 is no:



**** off ****

Ming the Merciless 03-13-2013 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9496151)
7-9, 2-14 and shitty drafts have basically set this team back to square one.

Were were more at square 1 after 2008....

DaneMcCloud 03-13-2013 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9496131)
That's a fatally flawed strategy.

I don't believe it's a flawed strategy when a team has had ten losing seasons out of the past fifteen and no playoff wins in 20 years.

The Chiefs are not in a position to just say "Super Bowl or Bust". They've lost the trust of the fans, the fans that fill the stadium, and if HUGE changes weren't made, they were looking at not only an empty stadium but blackouts.

This situation isn't just any simple ordinary situation. This franchise has basically been a gigantic cluster**** since 1971. Sure, the Marty years were "nice" but anything since then has been an illusion.

They're back to Square One, which is to try to put a team on the field that isn't embarrassing to the fans or the city.

It sucks but it is what it is.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-13-2013 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9496151)
7-9, 2-14 and shitty drafts have basically set this team back to square one.

The Super Bowl is a pipe dream. A winning season, a playoff win - well maybe THEN the Chiefs can talk about a Super Bowl.

Who is suggesting that the team would win a SB next year or the year after?

Everyone realizes that it will take multiple years for this team to contend because there are holes on the roster that can't be fixed by 2nd and 3rd tier FAs.

We should be laying the foundation for the future of the team now, and that foundation comes from drafting and developing a QB. As he develops, you fill the holes. Once he's ready the team is as well.

They are parallel growth lines.

BossChief 03-13-2013 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9496131)
That's a fatally flawed strategy.

When looking for a QB you need to ask yourself if the player is capable of leading a team to the SB. If he isn't, there is no reason to spend anything on acquiring him unless he's a backup.

Reid and Dorsey's job should be to win a Super Bowl. If they don't feel that there is a QB available in 2013 who can win a SB, that's an acceptable decision, but by committing to Alex Smith and constructing the rest of the team in the style they have, they've essentially said that there is no QB worth it in 2014 and possibly 2015.

It's a classic example of not being able to see the forest for the trees.

It will make the team better in 2013, but that's the equivalent of taking out a cash advance on a credit card to pay your mortgage every month.

I happen to think that Geno Smith can win a Super Bowl, but I understand that such a belief is not a consensus, so passing on him, although a poor decision in my mind, is defensible.

What isn't defensible is picking up a QB that I believe almost no one thinks can win a Super Bowl, because it makes acquiring a truly elite one more difficult.

You hit the mark.

They are betting their reputations and the fortunes of this team on the notion that the next two drafts don't have a franchise quarterback in them AT ALL.

We have to have hope that there are 3 teams that want to move up for Geno and that they believe the Jaguars will take him at 2...otherwise, our pick doesn't hold much weight.

DaneMcCloud 03-13-2013 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 9496155)
Were were more at square 1 after 2008....

And I hated the Pioli and Haley hire more than any hire in the Chiefs history.

DaneMcCloud 03-13-2013 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9496163)
Who is suggesting that the team would win a SB next year or the year after?

Everyone realizes that it will take multiple years for this team to contend because there are holes on the roster that can't be fixed by 2nd and 3rd tier FAs.

We should be laying the foundation for the future of the team now, and that foundation comes from drafting and developing a QB. As he develops, you fill the holes. Once he's ready the team is as well.

They are parallel growth lines.

The only problem is that with this draft, you're asking a fan base that's suffered through years of shit (and an outright rebellion in 2012) to suffer through more years because they want to "try" to develop a guy to lead them to the Super Bowl someday.

I'm sorry, but that's a lot to ask of the average fan. It's why Royals Stadium is continually empty and it's a bad strategy for the Chiefs in 2013.

Ming the Merciless 03-13-2013 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9496166)
And I hated the ***** and Haley hire more than any hire in the Chiefs history.

I can't say I disagree....I liked what he did with the AZ offense, and had some hopes but in retrospect it was terrible

Rasputin 03-13-2013 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9496151)
7-9, 2-14 and shitty drafts have basically set this team back to square one.

The Super Bowl is a pipe dream. A winning season, a playoff win - well maybe THEN the Chiefs can talk about a Super Bowl.

With a rooky QB take the lumps of growing with him first couple years and then the third year should be in the picture to win in the playoffs and who knows maybe we can become that dominate team of the decade and win some championships? With the retrash QBs we get from other teams unlikely we will get past a first round playoff game. Now we are going on 20 years past Joe Freaking Montana winning us a playoff game.

I am much butthurt we traded for yet another retread QB that isn't going win us shit in the post season. Alex Smith will be lucky to even make it through 16 games as fragile as he is.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-13-2013 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9496161)
I don't believe it's a flawed strategy when a team has had ten losing seasons out of the past fifteen and no playoff wins in 20 years.

The Chiefs are not in a position to just say "Super Bowl or Bust". They've lost the trust of the fans, the fans that fill the stadium, and if HUGE changes weren't made, they were looking at not only an empty stadium but blackouts.

This situation isn't just any simple ordinary situation. This franchise has basically been a gigantic cluster**** since 1971. Sure, the Marty years were "nice" but anything since then has been an illusion.

They're back to Square One, which is to try to put a team on the field that isn't embarrassing to the fans or the city.

It sucks but it is what it is.

Super Bowl or Bust was the 2005 strategy.

If you have a young QB and you hit, you gradually improve. Even in the years you don't win a SB you are almost always competitive. That removes the embarrassment factor.

Look at the Colts with Manning, the Patriots with Brady, Packers with Rodgers, and so on.

The QB alone will make any team competitive if he's worth his salt. You don't have to hand out Daniel Snyder contracts; you can take a slow, measured approach and still improve markedly with a viable young signal caller: just like the Colts, Redskins, Seahawks, and Bengals have done.

DaneMcCloud 03-13-2013 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9496165)
You hit the mark.

They are betting their reputations and the fortunes of this team on the notion that the next two drafts don't have a franchise quarterback in them AT ALL.

I strongly disagree.

If the Chiefs suck ass this year and draft in the Top Ten, it'll most likely be because of quarterback play.

I hardly think that Reid and Dorsey feel that QB position is insignificant.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-13-2013 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9496173)
The only problem is that with this draft, you're asking a fan base that's suffered through years of shit (and an outright rebellion in 2012) to suffer through more years because they want to "try" to develop a guy to lead them to the Super Bowl someday.

I'm sorry, but that's a lot to ask of the average fan. It's why Royals Stadium is continually empty and it's a bad strategy for the Chiefs in 2013.

Baseball prospects almost always take 3+ years from the day they are drafted to even make a ML debut. From there, it takes several years to reach an All-Star level for even incredibly talented players.

NFL teams can completely turn around a franchise in just three, with immediate turnarounds noticeable in the first year.

BossChief 03-13-2013 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9496173)
The only problem is that with this draft, you're asking a fan base that's suffered through years of shit (and an outright rebellion in 2012) to suffer through more years because they want to "try" to develop a guy to lead them to the Super Bowl someday.

I'm sorry, but that's a lot to ask of the average fan. It's why Royals Stadium is continually empty and it's a bad strategy for the Chiefs in 2013.

Then why not go the Aaron Rodgers/Colin Kaepernick way and try to develop a guy while a veteran makes the team competitive in the short term?


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