Because those old school guys can't change their spots. They are risk averse.

I just don't buy the Eagles trading up. Outside of Chiefs fans I haven't seen many if any people who think they would. And it just doesn't make sense to me. Why bring in Dixon and basically flat out refuse to deal Foles if you were going to take a QB in the first round? Only way I would buy this is if they dealt Foles and wanted to go into camp with Vick/Geno/Dixon.

Its a smoke-screen for KC to go ahead and take Geno.
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Like they can't just trade Foles before or after the draft.

According to Reid the Eagles had no interest at all in trading Foles. I don't see that changing. Foles is a good young QB.

Then you guys should trade for him.

Why bother when we are drafting Geno?

Foles sucks and should not prohibit a team from looking for an upgrade. There might be ten people on Planet Earth that would want Foles as the team's "franchise" QB

This comment by Reid is merely posturing. Previous "news" had Reid saying he's already entertained offers on the #1 pick, something I was posting about a week or two ago, and now he says Geno isn't out of the running.

Do you know why?

It isn't because we will draft him. Not a chance. Tackle is about as locked as it can get right now.

Reid is saying Geno isn't off the table for a few reasons.
1. To drive up the trade offers for the #1 pick
2. To signal to those teams preparing for the Chiefs to pass on Geno, that he might just take Geno anyways, since it is a need on this team.
3. To stir up the fan base's hope
4. To make a statement that absolutely nobody knows what the Chiefs will do, until they do it.


Bet your ass on a Tackle or a Trade folks. Reid is very good with mixed signals and playing mind games in the NFL. Don't let this statement even give you a remote inkling that And Reid is serious about taking Geno Smith #1 overall.

FYI - This is a completely bannable offense

So was having sex with your mother. But someone still had the balls to do it.

And yes, I still hate you for it

Yeah....awhile ago. They could easily trade up....take Geno at 1.1 and then start working out a trade with other teams for Foles.

I agree with pretty much everything Ex says except the Tackle part. No ****ing way they tackle. Not....a ****ing.....chance.
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Have you seen the Chiefs previous drafts?
:D

You are right about 1 thing... he is young.

But hes not good. He was the Stafford of college football. Meaning he threw the ball a ridiculous amount of times while not succeeding at anything beyond racking up a bunch of yards.

you made a post just like this about Welker.

It was 110 percent wrong
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Um, how?
No I didn't. I made a post about the Welker scenario saying if he went to the Broncos, the Patriots would likely be signing either Amendola or Edelman as his replacement, and likely attempt to re-sign Aqib Talib.

What happened? I was 110 percent right

Welker went to the Broncos, Amendola signed with the Patriots, and the Patriots went after Talib.

I could take the next 15 minutes to explain to you the Who, What, Where, and Why about what I just stated about Reid, but I know Sauto, that you'll just ignore 99% of it and argue about something completely unrelated. As I have first hand experience in knowing that you are completely incapable of understanding logic and deception. You come from a place where you believe everything is sunshine and rainbows, and that just isn't how the world works.

Which is exactly why you will never hear Reid openly say that Geno won't be the pick, or that QB is out of the talks for the #1 pick. If he drums up interest that he might take Geno, he increases the value of the potential trade by 50-60%.

If the Raiders keep Carson they don't need a QB... He has one or 2 more good 4000 + yards years in him.

FYP

Starting to worry about Reid's emotional state.

No QB wins when the defense can't stop anyone...

What other GMs and HCs did in the past have no relevance to what Dorsey and Reid do today.

Ravage Woody Johnson, even if they kick back Sanchez.

this is bullshit.

You were totally wrong about everything you said about Welker.
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So extorter, did Welker get 7.5-8 mil a year?

Three year deal at least? He's too good to take a lesser year deal right?

Oh and dumerville want getting cut in that same post lol

All that was wrong, hell you even speculated that Amendola would re sign with the rams in that post.


It was a total fail
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And I come from a place that is all sunshine and rainbows is ****ing hilarious.

I'm not from olathe buddy
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No, I was not.

Welker got close to those numbers, as expected, and the only unrealistic thing was the length of his contract, which had even the talking heads of NFL Network and ESPN baffled, like myself.

I also reported it as a 3 year deal because Schefter had reported it on Twitter moments before, I also updated the length of his contract in that thread before you posted in it.

As for Welker, did I not specifically say that if he signed elsewhere, the Patriots would look to sign Amendola or Edelman? And that if Edelman was signed first, that Amendola would be likely to return to the Rams, and that the Patriots would take a shot on Talib?

What happened? Welker signed with the Donkeys, Amendola with the Patriots, and then they went after Talib.

I'm not sure what part of me saying that would happen, before it happened, constitutes me being wrong about it, when it happened.

As for Dumervil, did I not say that the deal was all but done and they intended to re-sign him with a pay cut?

What happened?

He agreed to re-sign with the paycut, the deal was done, and his agent or the Broncos HQ didn't fax the details in time.

You cannot seriously fault me for their faxing issues you imbecile.

Right, you're from the sticks where people don't deceive each other, nobody plots, nobody schemes, the handshake is the word of god, and nobody falls on hard times.

Whereas the rest of us live in the real world, where we want to drum up interest in Geno Smith as the #1 selection, so teams try to give us trade proposals "over the top" of what we expect, so that they can secure Geno, while also forcing the hands of those who quietly "hope" that Geno falls into the 8-12 position, and forcing them to show interest.

All of this allows us to leverage the player against the deal, not the deal against the player.

But you wouldn't know anything about stuff like that.

Again you fail.

I'm not "from the sticks" douchebag.

I live in the sticks because I WANT it that way.

I grew up in armourdale.

my whole life. My whole family still lives there. My dad lives in the same house I grew up in.

I grew up on the streets. Crazy style.


True story. People plot, scheme, and **** each other over 24 7.

I live here because I wanted my children to be able to play in my front yard and not gave to worry about them getting shot.
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And you said there was NO WAY he signed for less than.7.5 per.

wrong.


said he was so great he would get no less than 3 years.

Wrong.

But in your words you were 110 percent right, huh?
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And people plot and scheme just as much here on the sticks dumbass.

Meth capitol...
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Carl???Carl quirate?

my god ive missed you


http://www.wyco3and2.com/images/Armourdale.jpg

that isn't me. I'm younger than that. But I knowquite a few of those fellows...
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Geno Smith + New jerseys for the Jaguars = Buying a pallet of them.

MY god did that point fly so far above your head......

That's a fraction of what I said. And he got in the ballpark of what I said.

Also, there were a lot of qualifiers in those statements.

For the idiots of the world, like yourself, are statements made within a statement that qualify the statement to be true, or false, based on parameters or variables.

Such as, "Danny Amendola will get signed by the Patriots IF (Qualifier) they let Welker walk and don't sign Edelman as his replacement, immediately (qualifier).

And so forth. Do yourself a favor when and look back at the Welker statement and pick out the qualifiers.

I wasn't making a statement as a "matter of fact" that he wont' take a deal under 3 years, or less than 7.5M per year. It was a statement loaded with qualifiers about the slot receiver market, and what the market would expect of a top tier slot receiver, and he got pretty damned close to that, despite COMPLETELY SURPRISING EVERYONE IN THE WORLD OF FOOTBALL AND FOOTBALL JOURNALISM. I was REALLY ****ing close to the mark on Welker, closer than most analysts were, and even they were shocked to see him sign a 2 year deal for less than 7.5Mil.

Even then, you'll have to forgive my memory, but I don't recall saying "Welker won't take a deal less than 3 years for less than 7.5 Million dollars per year", and if you can find me saying that EXACT statement, without qualifiers, without variables, and without interpretations, then I'll admit to being wrong, and that I was 110% right.

However.

The 110% RIGHT comment I rebuffed from your 110% wrong comment, stems from the fact that I described to you the events long before the happened, including names, teams, salary figures, and length of contract.

I was right about Welker signing and the situation following it. Amendola, Edelman, talib, etc.

Long before anybody spoke out about a Welker contract in popular media, I was suggesting 3 years @ 7.5M a year give or take the signing bonus and guaranteed money, and stated that almost all of the money would have to be guaranteed.

When I later found out that he had signed a 3 year contract, per schefter, I posted it. Moments later, he updated it to a 2 year, which I later corrected, and speculated that the contract would have to be nearly ALL guaranteed.

When the contract details came out the next day, I was right again.


So now, going back to the point of all of this.

You're calling me 110% wrong, because I speculated the events 110% right, but got the contract offer's off by 1 year and by 1M per year, less than 20% off of the numbers, before anything was reported.

And you're arguing this in a thread about speculating events.

Something I nailed in that thread where you call me 110% wrong.

Let me recap this.

You're arguing about a contract length and pay, in a thread speculating about events, something I proved to be right about, over and over again now. Sean Smith being the "Defensive player in the building", the players connected to the Welker deal and how that would break down, Dumervil's contract being all but done and agreed to (which you fault me for because they can't fax, but despite this, my comment was 110% true and unquestionably so).

So let me reiterate my point.

Andy Reid saying he isn't ruling out taking Geno Smith, is about as much concrete evidence as you'll ever get pre-draft that he has no intention of drafting Geno Smith, and every intention on trying to get more trade value out of that pick, than he'll get in player value in Geno Smith, or whomever he decides would or will be that selection.

If you disagree with my statement, I challenge you to give me information to the contrary.

Until then, Sauto, please learn how to contain yourself into one post, your enthusiasm for argument shows when you have to reply 3 times in a thread nobody has yet replied to.

There is an edit feature, use it.

On the sticks or in the sticks? Your grammar sucks.

Also, I didn't know the "sticks" referred to Independence.

Yeah this place makes independence look like amateurs.

ill get you that post and we will see the qualifiers about the contract.

I seem to remember a I've got special info here in that post.

Let me find it
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And lol with the "I was off on the years and the pay but I was 110 percent right about the events"


JFC dude
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Looks like we found plenty of qualifiers in that post, and you were wrong.

JFC what?

YES OR NOT< was I not dead on ****ing accurate about EVERY player in that entire statement?

Feel free to quote the other statements that went along with it referencing Talib, Sean Smith, etc.

Dead ****ing nailed it, and you're bitching about the terms of his contract, as speculated by me, as later reported by schefter, later redacted by schefter.

Oh **** Welker in his donkey ass already...
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Tell that to Mr. Ignore List over there who can't ****ing drop it.

Nevermind the fact that I have this crazy ability to give insight into what teams are thinking and doing, and post them here for us to have a better insight into what is going to happen.

This bitch over here is going to ignore the fact that I was right about Welker, Amendola, Talib, Sean Smith, and Dumervil, and argue that my Years were wrong, which everyone got wrong, and I was off by 20% on the contract numbers, and then because someone in Denver didn't know how to fax, I was "wrong" despite the only thing I stated was that the financials were done, and they were. So I was actually right on that.

Sauto has a hardon for me, because he's a flaming homosexual from the sticks of Missouri.

You two need Sake.
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I'm honestly not a fan of Sake. Give me some Whiskey and we'll see.

Swhiskey, then.
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theres some pretty good cold unfiltered sakes you might like


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3251/...d98f36a21a.jpg

I've heard that it tastes like dry white wine, which I'm tolerant of, just not a fan of. Everything else is like some concoction more relative to Port than anything. And I'm not a big fan of Port, not a huge fan of most wine in general.

Generally if I feel like having a nice, fancy drink, I go for the Cognac-Brandy types.