You need to look at Brent Celek's numbers and then shut the **** up.

Would you consider TE to be a featured position in Andy Reid's offense?

We have nothing at tight end, dude. We need SOMETHING. It has a role in his offense, especially with Alex at QB.

Yes, you said it very well. And it is indeed a cycle.

He sure did. So well in fact that those who dont see it, dont want to.

Rep

Welp, poor leadership all starts at the top - Clark Hunt...


I know, I know, he doesn't wear a uniform... Bla bla bla bla bla...

He sets a tone, one that says it's OK to not win, to not succeed, to not be the best person in the league at what you do. He thinks the quiet owner thing makes him cool. Yeah, the other owners love it, it's awesome...

We've had to deal with those kinds of people since 1971!

That's bullshit.

He's made every effort to get the best guys in here. Pioli, at the time, was considered THE hire for a GM position. In fact, Hunt made him the highest paid GM in the NFL at the time.

Brought in Reid and Dorsey when both were the hot commodities.

He's made a shit ton of effort. Listens to the fans. Cares about the team. Wants to win.

Yup.. Like every owner he "wants" to win, he's just not committed to it. I'm pretty sure he could bring in God and Jesus Christ and we'd not win a SB with the buzz-kill his family evidently is.. Perhaps it's other constraints the Hunts put on their direct subordinates...

Then it would be your fault because of all the negative waves you are sending out you pessimistic ****.

... all that, and has never shown a willingness to OK bigger signing bonuses to allow greater cap flexibility in either FA signings or extensions.

Get back to us when he starts doing that.

Spending big on the front office and spending as little as possible on on-field talent seems to be the MO. Has been that way throughout the FA period, through 3 GMs.

Because we have Alex Smith folks


ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL

You must be new to being a Chiefs fan... You ****ing Hunt cum-sucking, deep throat, anal whore!

Do we have all the name calling out of the way now? :thumb::thumb::thumb:

And I think this is evidence Hunt is averse to the idea of drafting a franchise QB. If you get a guy that's Peyton or Brady-esque they're going to command a lot of bonus money to stay.

THOSE guys won't even talk to this team.. Remember PM passing-over the Chiefs. Want to know why? They want to win and yeah, they don't need to ask if that's Hunt's only mission in life...

Can you stop speculating about shit and pretend it's a fact?

I'll never cease to be astounded how many people still think the Daniel Snyder method is the best way to build a winner. Blowing your wad on a few guys every off-season isn't an awesome strategy.

Supposedly, Peyton's reason for lack of interest in the Chiefs was Pioli.

Stop saying things that do not fit the narrative around here or you'll be called names and stuff.

It's so hurtful. :(

What is our salary cap situation?

Did we not spend money on the field?

Are we not currently paying six Pro Bowl players?

Did I miss something where we were supposed to cash front load contracts to ****ing guys who haven't been on the ****ing field in two years like Demarcus Ware so I can say that we are at least doing something like pissing away money on brokedick mediocrity so our fervently adversarial fan base can say we did something during one lousy ****ing free agency period?! So that we can believe that the Super Bowl victory that we deserve is going to be this next season?! All we needed to do was to make sure we signed that one ****ing journeyman guard and a broke dick safety and we would have been well on our way!

MOTHER **** YOU CLARK HUNT FOR LETTING THAT GUARD WALK WITHOUT OVERPAYING FOR HIM!!!!!!

Reid's offense is orchestrated by Alex Smith currently, right?

Shut up. There are no concerns on this team. LT, TE, WR, G, FS all good. Reid got this. I trust his judgment.

Id give them a C by default, by being inactive. They were active last year and didnt have the space to do much this year but sit, although that didnt stop Denver but Denver is in a position by going all out at this point could end in a SB victory.

One thing though. When you see stop gap QBs like Schaub and Palmer going for 6th and 7rd picks you gotta think Dorsey would like a redo on Smith. Sure Smith is better at this point but two #2s? Not that he regrets getting him, but two 2nd rounders with one being an extremely high 2nd has to make him wish hed proceeded a little slower. Its one of those things thats over and done with but everyone secretly acknowledges he overpaid.

What did the Raiders give up for Palmer?

What did the Redskins give up for Bobby Griffin?

What did the Cardinals give up for Kevin Kolb?

And you think that we overpaid for Smith with two lousy seconds?

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Didn't you say KC would be lucky to win 4 games in 2013?

Not at all.

Well, I'm not going to mine for a quote, but I damn well know you predicted shittiness in 2013.

He was joking

I called 7-9. Big deal. We'll be lucky to hit that this year.

True.

Although while I do think he would utilize a te, I think it's a bit skewed that he's such a TE utilizer. I'd imagine just about any qb would if they had Vernon Davis

For instance, I think a wr who gets quick separatin with big play ability (Beckham or more proven Jackson) would be just as advantageous

Sign me up for adding another playmaker on offense. No doubt this is a huge need.

I agree.

Be it Jenkins (?), or whoever, they need more. I'm hoping it ends up being Beckham or ebron.

Yes, there were reports of that too.... Supposedly!

Holy ****ing hell.

SPENDING MORE MONEY DOES NOT MAGICALLY CREATE MONEY THAT DOESN'T COUNT AGAINST THE CAP. HOLY ****ING HELL.

Where is this magical, mystical forest where NFL teams are illegally spending money on players that never counts against the cap. Tell me a single way that a team spends a single dollar on a player that doesn't count against the cap.

ROFL

Epic.

LMAO LMAO LMAO

Granted, I don't know what happens in back rooms. Maybe NFL teams are giving BJs to players as an extra perk for signing. But I doubt it, because Kerry Rhodes is still unemployed. Apart from that, this idea that teams are loading up on signing bonuses as a way to cheat the cap by illegally paying players for money that somehow never hits the cap is ridiculous. Yet it keeps getting brought up and people nod their heads in agreement.

You either don't get it, or refuse to.

You've never answered my question.

Name me a single dollar that gets paid to a player that doesn't account against the cap (legally)

Where is this "free money" coming from? Who's saying anything about it not hitting the cap?

Jesus. Big signing bonus leads to a lower cap hit in a year we don't have a lot of funds, cap wise.

It doesn't require one.

ROFL

Who is saying anything like this?

That has nothing to do with calling a team cheap or suggesting that the Chiefs won't pay big signing bonuses because they don't want to spend money on players. Or bringing up Denver as an example of a team that is magically dodging the cap by somehow paying players in a way that doesn't eventually hit the cap. That is disagreeing with the way the Chiefs manage their cap. That's fair.

You called the Chiefs cheap. If a team is hitting against the salary cap in consecutive years, how is that being cheap?

CASH FLOW. So many have explained it to you, but you dont want to listen. Like I told you before, if you're not going to listen to anyone, then just talk to yourself but DONT believe your answers...Holy shit dude, what are you smoking??? :bong:

If I spend $150,000 today and $50,000 tomorrow, I spent $200,000 over two years. That is the same damn thing as spending $100,000 over 2 years. You spent the same money. Agree or disagree with the way you spent it. But to suggest one way is cheap and the other isn't, that's where the argument becomes ridiculous. This has everything to do with disagreeing with how we manage the cap. It's

There's sure is a shitload of success in that list. I feel better!

Take comfort in the fact that you don't care.

Does it bother you that much?

Should I be flattered or frightened that you follow me around and comment on everything I say? Are you just that insecure or is it hero-worship?

Cash flow? A meaningless buzz phrase?

You're a ****ing reerun.

You have been straight up brainwashed by the dealings of this team over the years.

Clark Hunt's jizz stain keeps humiliating himself further with each post in this thread.

When the Chiefs go 6-10 this year, this thread will be bumped to ensure everyone can have an epic round of laughter at your expense.

And if they win 10 games and make the playoffs?

When they went 11-5 last year, after I predicted they'd go 11-5 with a trip to the playoffs, who was laughing then?

Go warm up the tub, sharpen the razor and get the toaster heated up you doomsaying, pessimistic pile of monkey shit.

The Blades have better playoff prospects than the Chiefs.

There haven't been many bumped from last year, that's for sure

Again, justify your bullshit.

Explain to everyone how the Chiefs will improve on last year after losing 5 key players, and doing nothing to fill the holes they had BEFORE losing those players… against a significantly tougher schedule in 2014.

Back-up your bullshit.

I don't really believe in absolutes...

I certainly don't think the Chiefs are in a position to repeat what they did last season. But it's not guaranteed they're going to implode either.

The chiefs weren't very active in free agency, at all.

But it's April and were determining playoff chances. I mean, damn.

It's what we do. This is the message board of a team that hasn't won a playoff game since Bill Clinton's first term...

It's funny that certain guys are now "key" players, when about 10 months ago some couldn't wait to get rid of them.

Narratives change I guess

I guess so

The Chiefs had holes before losing those 5 players… the loss of those free agents adds additional needs.

The play of some of those players forces the narrative to change, at least for people that are willing to adjust their opinions when the evidence supports it.

Five key players?!

They lost four guys in Jackson, McCluster, Asamoah and Albert who most couldn't wait until they and their mediocre, underperforming assess were off the team.

The fifth guy was a journeyman GUARD who is on his fourth team in four years.

They have all been replaced.

And remember last year when we were to play the dreaded NFC East that was going to kick the living shit out of us?

Yeah...

We've got six Pro Bowler on this team and a year under the belt in Reid's system.

This should and will be a better team in 2014.

Said people are few and far between in these parts.

Replaced by worse players or no one at all.

Likenbach? Significantly lower Pro Football Focus grade last year than either Asamoah or Schwartz.

Vance Walker? Significantly lower Pro Football Focus grade last year than Tyson Jackson.

Who has replaced McCluster? The almost signing of Emmanuel Sanders doesn't count.

You sound like a dumbshit True Fan in complete denial.

I think I see your first problem

Walker had quite a few more QB pressures. I think he'll be a better pass rusher, but not as good against the run.

Yes. Overall it may be a wash, but Walker is a significantly better pass rusher IMO.

If dexters 511 yards are that thought to replace, we've got bigger problems

I think they're putting a lot of trust in AJ Jenkins, so yes, we do have bigger problems.

Holy hell, indeed.

If you don't understand that putting a higher percentage of a contract's worth into a signing bonus spreads the cash out over the length of the contract and stretchs out the cap hit, making the individual years less impactful, I don't know what else to say.

It's good for the players because they get more guaranteed money and get it now. It's good for the team because it spreads things out and makes it easier to cut the player down the road, rather than being on the hook for the whole amount.

Clarks spent a lot of money last offseason. Be happy with that.

Um, okay. Thanks. This is news.

Calm down, cupcake.

You're severely overstating things (and severely overreacting). Come on, man. You're better than that. Wanting the Chiefs to be more aggressive with signing bonuses and manipulating the cap is not the same as wanting to severely overpay and take a Daniel Snider approach.

People are upset because a team that NEEDED to get better to build on 2013 has not added talent. It has watched some talent walk, while other talent ages another year (which matters a lot with guys like Johnson, Hali, Flowers - and even Jamaal Charles), and is relying entirely on the draft and bottom barrel FA to create the talent upgrades. Oh, and internal broke dicks like Kelce and Commings, who might hit but should not be counted on yet due to injury situations ... and the fact that neither has done squat in an NFL uniform.

The individual talent losses are not enormous or hugely significant on their own (though it's asking a lot to ask Eric Fisher to play like a top 10 LT next year, considering what we've seen so far). It's more the combination of those losses with sitting still.

This is a Chiefs team that was LUCKY to get to 11 wins and make the playoffs last year. Facing a huge string of worthless backup QBs... and going 0-6 against teams that had a QB with a pulse. To continue having success and taking advantage of this core group of players, they needed to add talent around the core group of players. Instead, they've subtracted.

They need upgrades at several spots - notably a playmaking WR/TE and a good FS - to make that happen.

When that playmaking WR/TE practically falls in KC's lap, and a guy who still is young and in his prime, and they don't take advantage of it because "CAP" ... how can you be surprised that people are disappointed and upset?

When several solid Ss who would be big improvements cycle through the FA cycle and the Chiefs don't sniff one of them (apparently planning to either start Sanders Commings or find that FS in the draft - which, by the way, is a very weak safety draft)... how can you be surprised that people are disappointed and upset?

Right, because I've said a million times what a wonderful offseason we had last year. The team is spending money. They just haven't spent it well.

It sure seems to be.

No one is saying the Chiefs should be employing some sort of secretive tactic to pay under the table dollars.

Just that maybe, in the right spots (like when a 27-year-old gamebreaking WR who is explosive in the short, intermediate and deep passing games, has a history with this head coach and is available at a SIGNIFICANT discount considering his ability) the Chiefs should use a widespread and accepted NFL tactic to create some cap room and bring in that guy.