Alex Smith > Infante and Orlando

Hand eye coordination is an athletic skill and both of those players are pretty elite in those areas.

Hamwallet is trolling pay no attention

you'd think after you being wrong about the chart since day 1 you would have given this up.....but attack me if you must....your muggle self is in denial

Hitting home runs off major league pitchers is very hard. Most people will tell you it's one of the toughest things to do in professional sports. Billy had some good years.

Points one and three don't need a graph to show that. We have the search function.

Why are there so many different colors for the wins? What a weird looking chart.

Don't blow my cover

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if he really thinks Butler and Colon aren't athletes he is a god damn moron

just because someone is fat, doesn't mean that person isn't an athlete

the fact Billy is a lifetime .300 hitter IN THE BIG LEAGUES routinely facing 95 MPH heat ... he's a world class athlete

there is nothing tougher to do in sports than hit a baseball (thrown 90 MPH +)

pete it's the dumbest chart I've ever seen in my life

it has literally no meaning

and last time it brought us all the bad mojo in the world

please stop posting it

Just got home

Royals are too good.

I like the Twins, I like the Royals. I wore blue.
I like baseball, but not as well as football and the Chiefs.

Good food. Good night with the family.

Seriously, what is the deal with that? Is that really the best they could do to find a guy who looks like a major league athlete?

I'll link this so no autoplay occurs. https://twitter.com/nick_pants/statu...31539154026496

To the extent it is a jinx that causes loses and AIDS, yes.

It also brought us the winning streak that took us from +9 to +14..... but cherry pick away..and I will continue to post it...might even PM it to you on a daily basis......:harumph:

I can pretty much tell you we are losing Saturday since I'm going. :banghead:

:facepalm:
Trolling? Not sure.

It looks like after the game hes going to mail his grandson a check for 12$ for his birthday

I could probably make a script that inserts it into the OP of any ROYALS marked thread... :D:evil:

I'm 0-2 this year away. Loss in bottom of 9 to Detroit and Bottom of 11 to Cubs.

I'm there for all 3 this weekend ... and it's supposed to rain all weekend. I'm sure we'll get swept. After that, I'll be going to no more games, ever. It took me 8 straight Chiefs losses before I finally broke the curse and got a win this year against Seattle.

It's just so damn depressing. I'm such bad juju.

no

bwillie is one of those typical uncoordinated kids that never played baseball, watches it on TV, and thinks, "gee, I could do that!" Probably like when people watch golf.

o:-):thumb:

Typically pete analysis using "The Chart":

"A win tomorrow indicates a possible win streak extension. A loss indicates the possible start of a losing streak."

LOL

it literally has no meaning

it's comical

Don't encourage him

Peters chart when used appropriately, in the right context can make you rich. It's a low risk way to make "risky" investments and is best utilized in bear markets.

It's just so innovative.

We were at +10 when it made its first unfortunate appearance. And then it took us down to +7.

Billy Ripkin crying about the ASG balloting on MLB Network. Says maybe you could make an argument for 3 Royals starters (Sal, Esky, Kendrys) or even none starting.

pete's AIDS Chart > you

Cain is more deserving than kendrys

Completely serious, when you compare it to basketball, football, hockey, soccer it becomes pretty clear. David Wells was an elite pitcher lolol. Jack Cust was a major league baseball player. You do not HAVE to be athletic. Some guys can roll out of bed and throw hard. Some guys have amazing hand eye coordination but are fat slow blobs like Billy butler. I dont know why this is so surprising to you.

Glad that douche is crying. He is the biggest Royal hater out there.

This is a bad post. The skills required to be a good baseball player are much more elite and difficult to master than those of any of those other sports. Golf is probably a step above baseball in difficulty.

I played baseball. I was a good athlete, and I saw great athletes that were terrible at baseball and vice versa. I had no plate discipline. Could not figure it out. I have no idea how people walk. Every pitch looked like a strike to me, no matter what I did. That had nothing to do with my athleticism or lack thereof. Plus, anybody can acquire the needed strength to play baseball. Most people can never be as strong as an NFL safety, though.

Thank the 2006 lame duck congress for tacking on the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act to a port security bill that apparently had to pass. Oh yeah with exceptions for fantasy football, horse racing and lotteries.

Government is so awesome sometimes.

You are totally missing my point. Baseball and golf are probably HARDER to be good at than basketball or football, but they dont require great athleticism to be good at. Its really difficult to be a world reknowned chess player, just because its hard to do doesnt mean you have to be athletic to do it

Huh, so winning is good, and losing is bad? Is that how it works?

having elite hand eye coordination IS athleticism

...do you not realize that?

Michael Jordan

Yes it did. Body control, timing, handling objects, and the training of the body to have automatic and quick responses are all athletic skills.

**** golf LMAO. You want a hard mother****ing sport? Play some ****ing golf. My god, hardest sport there is to play.
To those who are good at it, respect.

Chess is not an athletic endeavor. Baseball most certainly is one.

Bwillie was probably good at track, but has hands of stone.

Exactly right.

Billy Butler is a "fat slow blob" pretty much only in the world of professional sports. Not compared to most people. Hitting, throwing, even his fielding, are all athletic and he's better than 99% of the world.

That douche should stop writing obscenities on his baseball cards.

Much of fielding is acquired skill, not all. Its a skill so to speak to be able to see the ball off the bat, or to be able to scoopnone out of the dirt. I hardly see how that has anything to do with being athletic or not. Like I said, being athletic is certainly helpful in baseball, that is obvious, but it is definitely not required.

And if you think Billy Butler is more athletic than 99% of all males I dont know what to tell you, except laugh. Hes probably more athletic than like half of all people and that is realllllly pushing it.

I'm still not sure if you're trolling, but your high school team is kind of irrelevant. I don't think you realize just how good even the "shitty" players are at the MLB level.

OK, you're trolling. Or just a huge moron.

Once again, Im talking about sheer athleticism. I think you guys have trouble reading or something. Id be willing to bet lots of money that 50% of all 31 year olds on Chiefsplanet are more athletic than Billy freaking Butler. In fact, theres literature out there that hes the slowest runner un MLB from home plate to 1B. Go film a video of yourself running to first, you will be faster than Billy Butler. Being athletic = quickness, vertical leap, change of direction/agility, NATURAL strength. Thats it.

Not trying to be mean but your made up criteria is far too narrow and is honestly just pretty ignorant.

Can we both agree that basketball is an "athletic" sport? What are the skills required to be a good shooter? To make a bounce pass in traffic? To dribble with both hands? Similar to those you dismiss in the quote above. Being athletic is more than running and jumping.

This has become a debate over whether or not athleticism and coordination are the same thing. They overlap, but they are distinct traits.

Billy Butler is an average athlete who happens to be incredibly coordinated.

It is not. Shooting has nothing to do with athleticism. Nothing.

Right.

It is not. Is being good at Call of Duty or Counterstrike being athletic? Of course not.

Is posting on CP a display of athleticism?

I played golf in colleg, Division 2. Requires almost no athleticism albeit some. The kid on our team that hit the ball the furthest was the biggest dork alive. Couldnt get net on a basketball hoop, was the slowest kid in the team. The best athlete on the team also had a scholly to play football in college as well, he was just pretty short. He only hit 240. While I think athleticism does translate to hitting a golf ball further, you can see that it doesnt always matter

Lots of athletic spaz out there.

I always felt ping pong players were the greatest athletesin the world.

I'll agree there are certain positions in baseball that don't require a ton of athleticism to play well. 1B. DH. And at P, you can get away with not being really athletic if you're a freak of nature. Teams tend to look for more athletic guys on the hill, though, because it helps with repeating deliveries and etc.

But try playing MI, or 3B, or any of the OF spots well. You need to be really athletic to do so in the major leagues. For those IF spots, great quickness and first two steps are a must. That's athletic ability. Speed helps. That's athletic ability. Throwing arm, again, athletic ability. There's a ton of quick twitch that's required on the IF.

In the OF, reading the ball off the bat and taking good routes are skills that can be taught. Speed and throwing ability cannot. And...you'll notice the best OF are the guys with a really quick first few steps. That's athletic ability as well.

And as for catcher, it requires a ton of quickness/endurance/throwing ability as well. You can put a fat guy back there to "hide" him, but it's going to hurt you a lot defensively.

Pablo Sandoval is a perfect example of an athletic fat guy IMHO. Billy Butler a coordinated spaz.

Athleticism is traditionally comprised of strength, speed, and endurance. Maybe flexibility.

I've never really thought about hand/eye coordination, but on first impression I'm leaning towards no, because I would not say that the best Starcraft players in the world (usually Koreans who play video games 15 hours a day and never see sunlight) are "athletes". Hand/eye coordination is needed to be good at baseball, along with other non-athletic skills like the will to play through minor pains and not being discouraged by the inevitable slump, but I would not say that this skill, which is required, is an athletic skill.

When I think of the best athletes I think of Michael Jordan, Bo Jackson, Deion Sanders, Ken Griffey Jr., Ronaldo, etc. I do not think of track stars. Track stars often lack eye hand coordination. I think athletes have eye hand coordination and the ability to run/jump etc.