When you're good you're good

And everyone knows that stats always tell the whole story.

:facepalm:

Alex scored 44 points in a playoff game and lost.

"The will to win" differentiates these 2 players. No other example personifies that than Wilson making the clutch 2 point conversion in the game you referenced. The dagger deep TD pass in OT of the game is even more proof of this.

Defense wins championships. You don't win a ring having a bottom ten run defense that can't get the opposing team off the field.

Seems you can't win giving up the 2nd least points in the divisional round in the playoffs either.

So you don't have anything of substance to add?

How hard is it to win games when all you need is 174 yards and 1 touchdown a game?

Oh yeah, your RB is averaging 96 yards and 1.3 touchdowns a game. When's the last time the chiefs got that kind of production from their running back in the playoffs? Must be nice.
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When's the last time a SB winner scored 16 or less points in a playoff game the year they won the SB? I'm already 6 years deep and don't see it.

When's the last time the Chiefs had a QB in the playoffs that made defenses respect the pass, which in turn opens up the run?

He also threw a pick from the 1 yard line to lose a Superbowl so....

It's hilarious that someone can be praised for throwing a touchdown in overtime after throwing 4 interceptions in regulation. No that's not ****ing clutch. You want to know what's clutch? The defense holding Aaron ****ing Rodgers to 178 yards 1 touchdown and 2 picks while Russell turns the ball over and over and over. Want to know what else is clutch? Marshawn Lynch running for 157 yards 1 touchdown in 6 ****ing yards a carry while the QB shits the bed. That's clutch.

What if Spencer Ware runs for 157 yards instead of 35 in the playoff game?
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Russell Wilson turned the ball over and kept firing as if it never happened and won by making back-to-to back amazing plays.

Alex turns the ball over in Indy bc of a strip sack and goes into a shell the rest of the game and loses.

It helps when other people on the offense can score. When Wilson can't score which has happened a few times, Lynch picked up the slack. Who did that for Smith?
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So just so we're clear, 129 yards and 4 picks in 4 quarters is okay with you?

And you don't see that the only reason he even had a hope of winning is because Lynch had 157 yards and a touchdown and the defense shut down Aaron Rodgers?

I mean what the ****? If Ware has 157 in our playoff game we win easily. Instead Ware had 35 yards and we lose.
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How about if Alex makes the Pittsburgh defense pay for leaving our WRs wide open on several plays? Maybe they play tighter coverage. Maybe this opens up Ware to run for 157. Maybe we score a lot more points and force the Pittsburgh offense to play into our defense's turnover-hungry style.

And maybe your aunt grows balls and becomes your uncle.

You don't think Andy's play calling had anything to do with going into a shell?

You don't think 44 points should be enough to win any game?

You don't think the defensive collapse in the 3rd and 4th quarters had anything to do with it?

Are you that ****ing blinded by your hatred of Alex Smith?

No, they kept passing.

So you're trying to tell me the reason Lynch ran for 157 yards is because of Wilson and his 129 passing yards opening up running Lanes ROFL



Want to know the difference between me and you guys? I admit Smith had a bad game.... You guys are doing mental gymnastics trying to justify a QB throwing for 129 yards and 4 interceptions in 4 quarters and averaging 174 yards in a playoff run.
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GSoT put up a mighty 12 against the Bucs back in 99/00.

Fortunately their D knew what kind of game they were in and onlu gave up 10.

I can't believe we still have posters that defend a qb that threw for 15 touchdowns, 8 interceptions this year and scored 16 points in a playoff game.

He also has a dismal playoff record as a Chief.

Morons

After all the times and corrections, this kind of stupidity has to be deliberate.

I think Wilson is one of the most over rated players in the league.

Listen up because my opinion is not important, this next part is what is important.

The Seahawks had so much success because Wilson was good enough, AND he was playing on his rookie deal.

That's what we are set up for right now.

Nah they won because of his elite play. Imagine the Superbowl the chiefs could have won with a QB who could average 174 yards and 1 TD a game.
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Yep. They weren't paying a broke dick 17 mil to throw for less than 1 td per game.

Justin Houston wants to know why you guys gotsta bring money per yr into this! :deevee:

Houston had more sacks than Alex had touchdown passes in 14. How sad is that?

Ass is just Ass

FYP

and if you will watch 2017 KC football... you will suck on that Ass for at least one more year... too bad for you. Could be too bad for all of us.. but at least some can expect to enjoy winning/competitive football for much of the year.

Look, I don't think Alex is great, and am coming around to him never stepping up enough to make up for other KC deficiencies. That would take a very special QB. That said, the decisions are out of our hands.. and I for one refuse to be a sniveling bitch about the team all year long, as I wait for this QBotF.

It's your call on how you deal with it. Shrug, watch, and take whatever good comes from it.. or pout in the corner all year.. like a sniveling bitch.

Facts, not fiction.

I said "maybe" to all of that. I didn't say it would or should happen.

What to claim that's a cop out? It's just as valid as you saying Alex Smith is just as good as Ben Roethlisberger in the playoffs (and possibly better), but then claiming you're not defending Alex's putrid performances for us as a QB.

It goes back to style of play. You're the one using stats to justify this bullshit, when it reality it simply comes down to the fact that Alex plays scared and always has plays scared. The only thing that's going to change is he's going to play even more scared as he ages. Unless the opposing QB is a piece of flaming AIDS shit or he gets a nice soft D to dink and dunk on like the Saints, he will always be a terrible playoff QB. The Chiefs haven't been getting the job done like they should in the playoffs mostly because of him.

Russell Wilson and Ben Roethlisberger are gamers. You put them in that Andy Reid offense with all of the other same factors, and they would both win that Pittsburgh game. Alex lost it. They would win it. Because they're not ****ing afraid.

If Alex had even 1/4 of the balls that his stupid cult possesses, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

How would they have won it? It takes Lynch having great games for the Seahawks to win so how would that translate here?

You can say gamer all you want but that doesn't mean it means anything. You're not a gamer because you throw 4 interceptions but because of your all time defense and running back, you get a chance to redeem yourself in overtime. That's not how it works.

Wilson only has a superbowl because he can throw for 103 ****ing yards and still win because marshawn Lynch rushes for 140 yards and 2 touchdowns and the defense holds Drew ****ing Brees to 15 points.

Do the chiefs stand a chance winning any game much less a playoff game if Alex Smith only throws for 103 yards? Guess that doesn't make him a gamer.
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Seahawks won because of a great run game, a very smart game manager, and a world class elite defense. Saying otherwise is just stupid.

Guys like Wilson, Prescott, Elway, and Aikman are going to be winning more rings at their rate playing on teams with a well-balanced offense compared to the other guys like Rodgers/Brees/Peyton/Young/Marino/Favre who usually have just a strong passing game.

Matt Ryan couldn't take his game to the next level until he had a 2 headed monster at RB with Coleman and Freeman. Just look at how his productivity skyrocketed by throwing dump off passes.

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2017/4...in-kansas-city

What? Mahomes at the KC airport. I will say this much for this draft talk. I can't remember the last time the media really thought the we would take a qb early. It's been a very long time.

Mahomes is a two year project at the minimum

And that's two years we could continue developing Alex Smith.

I agree but Smith may as well be over. Mahomes could throw more than 15 tds with the players we have. No to mention getting the ball handed to him with takeaways.

Which is why I don't want him. I don't get why people hate Smith but yet are okay with drafting a 2 year project QB. That's the exact reason I don't want him. I don't want Smith past this upcoming season. I want a QB that will be ready to start the 2018 season.
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Getting a young cheap QB to throw 15 TD's isn't hard. We are paying Alex top 10 caliber $$ and are getting bottom 10 caliber production.

At least this would free up $$ to keep and add talent to the roster, regardless of where we pick. Even drafting a 4th rd pick like Kaaya/Dobbs and playing him a year or two before finding your QB in rd 1 is a good idea.

The biggest problem is Alex's salary in comparison to production. It's crippling this team.

And you're finding one of those where?

Alex apologists won't admit t but he's declining badly. 15 passing TD's is his worst production per game since 2007. He also threw more INT's than any other season dating back to 2010.

He plays scared and doesn't run near as much as he did before.

Time to move on.

Supposedly Dak was a project too. We know Jack and Shit about QBs. There are 100s of thousands of posts that prove it. Mahomes could come in and light it up. Won't know till we try.

Looking at your QB evaluation skills.....you don't know dick.

Oh he knows Uncle Dick quite well

So they select him or they don't.

You said it yourself. "We know Jack and Shit about QBs."

So embrace the freedom of ignorance and responsibility on this. Peacefully, let those that make the decisions make them. Just roll on as a fan with whatever they choose.. and hope it works.

Better than the alternative of impotently crying about it on a daily basis.

:shrug:

Cool. Let's shut down Chiefs Planet....because a couple 49er fans (posing as Chief fans) are butthurt.

FIFY

So this is your concession that CP is nothing more than a group of impotent crybabies that know Jack and Shit about QBs?

Well, that's all you had to say then.

Trading away a 3rd round comp to get WR Corey Smith is a safer way to save money going into 2018. Corey is the ideal freak athlete for a Reid WCO. Dump Maclin if he's still in a funk. Trade him if he has a good year.

BOTH of my posts are true. The board (NFL FANS IN GENERAL) knows zip about evaluating QBs and you 49ers butt nuggets just can't stomach Smith's replacement being drafted this year. You can't improve if you don't try.

Not only can I stomach it... I endorse it, you stupid putz. Get your head out of your ass and actually learn to comprehend the things you read.

Yet he threw more yards, won five games where the other team scored 21 or more points. Had 5 rushing TDs. In a way this was one of his better seasons. I still say this thinking this should be his last season as the starting QB.

So, Mahomes is a two year project at minimum then? Do you agree with Tiggers completely pulled out of his ass statement?

How many kids at his age have succeeded in the nfl from the get go? Mechanics are far from ideal. Decision making reflects his arrogance.

NOES GIGABYTES!!

I think the NFL has highly overestimated the ability of rookies to come in and start at QB.

People wonder why there are so few good QB's in the NFL right now.

Well, no one is patient enough to groom one anymore.

He would sit a year anyway. Alex gets one more year from Andy. Besides, he isn't dumb as **** like that turd Lynch...who STILL can't grasp an offense and out of desperation may be forced to start.

If we are all to embrace your "none of us know Jack and Shit" premise... what difference does such an opinion make?

My Jack and Shit opinion is that Mahomes is a mess.. and probably would take longer than 1 year to become anything more than a wildly inconsistent QB.

I think many... including draft "experts"... will and probably have already agreed that Mahomes will take a long time to get right.. if at all.

He would backup gigabyte boy for a year. No reason to think that wouldn't be enough time to grasp the offense

You morons say that stuff about ALL the QBs though. It's ALWAYS... NEXT YEAR BOYS!!!!! Except for those "HEY so and so in the 6th out of Butt**** State may wet our whistle!"

From where? Draft a qb and give him season to sit and learn is the best we can do. We won't have a QB ready to take over from an experience stand point in 2018 unless we get another teams trash again. No way in hell should we try that for hundreth time.

Again. You are not standing by your own words.

What I may say..
what you may say..
in your own words..
means Jack and Shit...
about QBs...
because...
as you say...
we know Jack and Shit..
about QBs...


Seems kind of silly then to turn and stress over these opinions, no?

Dipshit wants Peterman.

Tell him the rest. THEN, a top QB from 2018.

Explain how that's going to happen.

there will be a draft in 2018. there will be QBs available in that draft..

do I need to go on?

Who's stressing? I just find opposing fans posing as Chief fans over an average QB to be really creepy.

Who is wondering that? I don't really see any difference in the number of good QBs.

The names you once recognized are just getting replaced by Carr, Mariota, Cousins, and possibly Prescott. There's still Brady, Brees, Rodgers, Roethlisberger, Ryan, Wilson, Luck. Then you have guys like Rivers, Stafford, and Newton who aren't having as great years as they've had in the past that I would still gladly take on the Chiefs over the comfortably mediocre bullshit they have been willing to back up the Brinks truck for.

You mean QB's will be available in '18 to draft like they are in every other year?

Nail in the coffin to my statement ROFL

And how are we drafting a Top 10 QB?

oh quit trying to redirect the subject with silly shit..

your own words... stand behind them and just shut your admittedly ignorant mouth about other opinions... all of which you label ignorant, your own included.

Yeah... you're not stressing. ROFL ... ****ing liar.

Let's get another good WR that Alex won't use bc he's scared. Great plan to double down on wasting a 3rd and 1st rd pick.

turn a pick into a future pick? trade up? Stay put in 2018 and select a QB in the 20's that would have been #1 overall in comparison to this 2017 slop?

Cheeks, you just pined for BOTH these things just MINUTES after I posted this ROFL

So you want us to take Peterman.....in what....the 2nd round this year? And then he'll sit for a year....and magically we'll take another QB in the 1st next year.

Trade up for a QB? So our entire draft....great. And this Top 10 QB is going to be passed on by one of those high teams for what reason?

And if he falls? Then apparently he's better than any of the QBs this year....because it's next year?

**** off with your stupid bullshit. Keep waiting for that perfect scenario to happen.

Wait til next year so the Chiefs can draft Dan Marino again. Oh wait.

The Chiefs haven't drafted a 1st round QB ONCE since I've been a fan.

Since 1989 not one 1st round draft pick.

If they swing and miss this year I'll forgive them...

Missing the point. I'm simply saying **** this next year is a better class bullshit.

We got Blackledge in the "best QB class of all time"

If and when Smith's replacement IS drafted, I will hope with all my heart he is the next . . . whatever it is we need.

That's different than the hoi polloi screaming for someone, anyone.

And the thing is, Alex is deep enough in the DNA of the franchise that, if he must go at all costs, . . . we might as well start ALL THE WAY over. Dorsey, Reid, staff, high priced veterans.

Every year has at least one franchise QB.

I don't want excuses.

I want a front office that finds that guy...

1983, FYI.