Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13939971)

Thank god

They’re terrible

Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 13939981)

It doesn't mean we don't like you. This board is kind of like a Bills tailgate party.

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 13939966)

Has Mahomes thrown even one fade this season?

Alex obviously never threw any.. I don't think Reid likes them.

Originally Posted by Gobills12 (Post 13939857)

Hey Guys!!
Bills fan here.
Congrats on having an awesome year! You guys have an excellent team and have been fun to watch.
Just wanted to offer some 1st hand perspective.
First and foremost, i want to make clear - this isnt a salty post.
I hope KB has success with you and he finds what he has been lacking.
That said, you guys have a good thing going. You dont need this dude.
I cant even explain how excited we were to get this cat last year. We have poop at WR, and KB wanted to be a #1 so it seemed like a good fit. Ive seen the rationale about not having good qbs etc and honestly there might be a bit of truth to that.... but in the end, that wasnt KBs issue.

After almost 2 seasons, im not sure what he is. We hoped hed be a guy who would gobble up jump balls and help the qb look better. The sad fact of the matter was, when a pass was thrown it got to the point where you hoped it wasnt going his way. His game SHOULD be going up and making a play for his qb. Time after time after time he was out muscled by someone half his size.

Think about that. This dude is 2x the db, but that little guy just got done having his way with him. They kept trying and trying and trying. I can think of 3 times his entire tenure here where he jumped and outplayed his defender to make a play. Not a big deal for a Watkins type - but thats HIS game!!!
Hope that when you need a big play the ball goes nowhere near him. Honestly, ive never seen a WR drop more balls that litterally hit him in the hands. Thats an issue, when you see a ball going towards him in space and you have to worry about him catching it. It got to the point where the only ball he caught was a body catch.

The weird thing was, its a contract year. Ive never seen a player act like they had ALREADY signed that big deal before it happened. Even if he went somewhere else, ya still wanna look good - right? Maybe he got in his own head as he alluded to... maybe not. I dont know, but that brings the next issue..

Alligator arms. Look no further than a play at the goal line last week in MIA. Allen tosses a dime to KB at the goal line. A defender was closing in but still 5 yards away. Instead of making a catch by extending his arms 3/4 of the way, he lets the ball hit him in the hands and just drops it. His last big catch the week before in JAX, he caught it, but still almost dropped it and juggled it. Time and time again, if there was someone closing in the ball went right to the turf. It was almost as if he didnt want to catch it bc that meant contact was coming

The fact of the matter is BUF has a bunch of young speedy no name guys. They could use a big tall posession receiver to make plays, be the guy, and be counted on when ya needed an important catch. He wasnt that. Their young guys are coming along, but you would look at those names and say they are deprived...but yet it was addition by subtraction.

He quits on routes, runs poor routes, refuses to adjust to balls and when its not on the money he just quits and makes no attempt to break up a play. Hes slow to begin with, but if he knew it wasnt coming his way - hed jog.

The final nail in the coffin was last week he and Zay Jones ran the same route across the middle. Zay was 10 deep and KB was 20. Zay got the ball and scored. KB didnt even turn around to see if he caught the ball and instead of turning to celebrate he never turned around and just kept walking around the wall.

We will never know what went on, but his attitude became poor and he was hurting more than helping. That might be ok if you are an asset on the field but he became a hindrance. 5 games in rather than being our #1, fans wanted him cut. When it actually happened, it was in the top 5 highlights of the season. No joke

If i was a Chiefs fan, i wouldnt want this guy anywhere near my team.
You guys have a great thing going and i hope KB ends up helping rather than hurting. I really do. For your sake, if the game is on the line and ya need a big play, i hope its not going his way. Only bad things happen.

As i said, ive really enjoyed your team and your year and am rootimg for you to go places. I loved Mahomes coming out and was excited when we picked Allen as there are a lot of similarities. Seeing KB signed in KC, as a fan who loves the NFL and what you guys are doing was dissappinting and made me sad. Hopefully he is just a low end guy who has no importance placed on him. Im not sure if his ego or head will allow that, but now that its happened i hope it can.

Good luck the rest of the way! Im excited to see where the season takes you guys and i hope this is your year. Cheers!!

Originally Posted by srvy (Post 13939990)

I think your right and Andy should like them. It seems they are either a TD or DPI.

Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 13939981)

It doesn't mean we don't like you. This board is kind of like a Bills tailgate party.

Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 13939979)

Maybe he likes KC bbq more? Word on the street is that Benjamin saw a pic of Andy in the Chiefs' locker room w/o a shirt and said: "I want what he's having!" :D

Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 13939995)

**** OFF!!!!!

Originally Posted by Gobills12 (Post 13939857)

Hey Guys!!
Bills fan here.
Congrats on having an awesome year! You guys have an excellent team and have been fun to watch.
Just wanted to offer some 1st hand perspective.
First and foremost, i want to make clear - this isnt a salty post.
I hope KB has success with you and he finds what he has been lacking.
That said, you guys have a good thing going. You dont need this dude.
I cant even explain how excited we were to get this cat last year. We have poop at WR, and KB wanted to be a #1 so it seemed like a good fit. Ive seen the rationale about not having good qbs etc and honestly there might be a bit of truth to that.... but in the end, that wasnt KBs issue.

After almost 2 seasons, im not sure what he is. We hoped hed be a guy who would gobble up jump balls and help the qb look better. The sad fact of the matter was, when a pass was thrown it got to the point where you hoped it wasnt going his way. His game SHOULD be going up and making a play for his qb. Time after time after time he was out muscled by someone half his size.

Think about that. This dude is 2x the db, but that little guy just got done having his way with him. They kept trying and trying and trying. I can think of 3 times his entire tenure here where he jumped and outplayed his defender to make a play. Not a big deal for a Watkins type - but thats HIS game!!!
Hope that when you need a big play the ball goes nowhere near him. Honestly, ive never seen a WR drop more balls that litterally hit him in the hands. Thats an issue, when you see a ball going towards him in space and you have to worry about him catching it. It got to the point where the only ball he caught was a body catch.

The weird thing was, its a contract year. Ive never seen a player act like they had ALREADY signed that big deal before it happened. Even if he went somewhere else, ya still wanna look good - right? Maybe he got in his own head as he alluded to... maybe not. I dont know, but that brings the next issue..

Alligator arms. Look no further than a play at the goal line last week in MIA. Allen tosses a dime to KB at the goal line. A defender was closing in but still 5 yards away. Instead of making a catch by extending his arms 3/4 of the way, he lets the ball hit him in the hands and just drops it. His last big catch the week before in JAX, he caught it, but still almost dropped it and juggled it. Time and time again, if there was someone closing in the ball went right to the turf. It was almost as if he didnt want to catch it bc that meant contact was coming

The fact of the matter is BUF has a bunch of young speedy no name guys. They could use a big tall posession receiver to make plays, be the guy, and be counted on when ya needed an important catch. He wasnt that. Their young guys are coming along, but you would look at those names and say they are deprived...but yet it was addition by subtraction.

He quits on routes, runs poor routes, refuses to adjust to balls and when its not on the money he just quits and makes no attempt to break up a play. Hes slow to begin with, but if he knew it wasnt coming his way - hed jog.

The final nail in the coffin was last week he and Zay Jones ran the same route across the middle. Zay was 10 deep and KB was 20. Zay got the ball and scored. KB didnt even turn around to see if he caught the ball and instead of turning to celebrate he never turned around and just kept walking around the wall.

We will never know what went on, but his attitude became poor and he was hurting more than helping. That might be ok if you are an asset on the field but he became a hindrance. 5 games in rather than being our #1, fans wanted him cut. When it actually happened, it was in the top 5 highlights of the season. No joke

If i was a Chiefs fan, i wouldnt want this guy anywhere near my team.
You guys have a great thing going and i hope KB ends up helping rather than hurting. I really do. For your sake, if the game is on the line and ya need a big play, i hope its not going his way. Only bad things happen.

As i said, ive really enjoyed your team and your year and am rootimg for you to go places. I loved Mahomes coming out and was excited when we picked Allen as there are a lot of similarities. Seeing KB signed in KC, as a fan who loves the NFL and what you guys are doing was dissappinting and made me sad. Hopefully he is just a low end guy who has no importance placed on him. Im not sure if his ego or head will allow that, but now that its happened i hope it can.

Good luck the rest of the way! Im excited to see where the season takes you guys and i hope this is your year. Cheers!!

Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 13939981)

It doesn't mean we don't like you. This board is kind of like a Bills tailgate party.

Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 13940006)

If he's replacing stone hands I'm all for it.

Originally Posted by Gobills12 (Post 13940008)

Well, hell - i can get down with that!
Best always to be on the best behavior on foreign grass .
You guys seem to know whats up, and its not like you expect him to come and save a season that doesnt need saving.
But thats the dangerous part IMO. Ya got a good thing going. Things seem to be headed up in Buffalo finally - but roles are ripe for the taking. Who wouldnt want to start working for a new company and be viewed as the man who can help and be the guy. He had that, all he had to do was take it. He seemed preoccupied with throwing salt at his old team but didnt back up the talk.
As you said, if he doesnt fall in Andy will cut him.
Dudes get cut from KC and its ok bc KC is 'it' at the moment.
Getting cut from Buff however bc theyd rather roll w Zay Jones, Thompson, Foster, McCloud, and McKenzie however....
If that's not a wake the F up moment - i dunno what is

Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 13940006)

If he's replacing stone hands I'm all for it.

Originally Posted by Gobills12 (Post 13939928)

Shame you guys feel that way.
We appreciate when folks respectfully come to our board and offer a first hand view about the new player and what went right and what went wrong. I tought id take a few min and do the same. Considering you have 25 discussion pages dedicated to it, it seems there is quite a bit of thought being given to your '6th wr'.
Thanks for affirming it was time well spent...

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 13939997)

No they are usually incomplete.

Originally Posted by Gobills12 (Post 13939928)

Shame you guys feel that way.
We appreciate when folks respectfully come to our board and offer a first hand view about the new player and what went right and what went wrong. I tought id take a few min and do the same. Considering you have 25 discussion pages dedicated to it, it seems there is quite a bit of thought being given to your '6th wr'.
Thanks for affirming it was time well spent...

Originally Posted by Gobills12 (Post 13940008)

Well, hell - i can get down with that!
Best always to be on the best behavior on foreign grass .
You guys seem to know whats up, and its not like you expect him to come and save a season that doesnt need saving.
But thats the dangerous part IMO. Ya got a good thing going. Things seem to be headed up in Buffalo finally - but roles are ripe for the taking. Who wouldnt want to start working for a new company and be viewed as the man who can help and be the guy. He had that, all he had to do was take it. He seemed preoccupied with throwing salt at his old team but didnt back up the talk.
As you said, if he doesnt fall in Andy will cut him.
Dudes get cut from KC and its ok bc KC is 'it' at the moment.
Getting cut from Buff however bc theyd rather roll w Zay Jones, Thompson, Foster, McCloud, and McKenzie however....
If that's not a wake the F up moment - i dunno what is

Originally Posted by digger (Post 13940009)

Hope he doesn't take up too much room on the bench, PMII and Andy need the space...

Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 13940019)

Not your fault. There's some bad history here involving usernames with "Go" preceding a team's name. That and some of us are still a little salty from losing K. Hunt. Appreciate you sharing your perspective as a Bills' fan. Nice contribution. Would be nice if Andy & co could turn Benjamin into a reliable possession receiver and red zone weapon before the playoffs start.

Originally Posted by tooge (Post 13940032)

I suppose it can’t hurt to have a 6’5 guy in the redzone

Originally Posted by Gobills12 (Post 13940049)

Honestly, a role (roll lol) might be what he needs. I dogged his ability to get up and make a contested catch, but thats gotta be his game. He seems like hed be insulted by having a bit role, but if he can be engaged as a situational guy (thats the trick) then maybe he can get up for it and be the guy for that role. An easy joke would be that you need to posses the ball to be a posession WR - but BUF wanted him to be a #1 and do it all. As a result, he wasnt anything. Last yr he had flashes of a red zone guy. Id say having him on the outside for jump balls was oddly a bit of a miscast bc an inside TE type role could work well - but he needs to be able to come to terms w getting hit. If that happens, it could be a great signing

Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 13940070)

Nah man this is a fat, even more washed, version of Boogie Cousins to the Warriors.

Coming here he knows that our shit is on fire and hes gonna only get a chance to fit in where he fits in.

Originally Posted by Gobills12 (Post 13939928)

Shame you guys feel that way.
We appreciate when folks respectfully come to our board and offer a first hand view about the new player and what went right and what went wrong. I tought id take a few min and do the same. Considering you have 25 discussion pages dedicated to it, it seems there is quite a bit of thought being given to your '6th wr'.
Thanks for affirming it was time well spent...

Originally Posted by Gobills12 (Post 13940061)

If PMII can throw it hard enough to sitck it in his facemask hes golden. Anything else assumes he catches it

Sorry, weve been making jokes like this for months so theres a ton of material. That one was easy bc its one of the few times you can just replace mahomes with Allen and it still works:)

Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 13940070)

Nah man this is a fat, even more washed, version of Boogie Cousins to the Warriors.

Coming here he knows that our shit is on fire and hes gonna only get a chance to fit in where he fits in.

Originally Posted by nychief (Post 13940104)

Dude, Boogie hasn't played for the Warriors yet... he is still recovering from the achilles injury...and he is great player when healthy...

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 13940099)

Actually, Patrick Mahomes II can throw it hard enough to stick it in his face mask.

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 13940099)

Actually, Patrick Mahomes II can throw it hard enough to stick it in his face mask.

Originally Posted by Gobills12 (Post 13939857)

Hey Guys!!
Bills fan here.
Congrats on having an awesome year! You guys have an excellent team and have been fun to watch.
Just wanted to offer some 1st hand perspective.
First and foremost, i want to make clear - this isnt a salty post.
I hope KB has success with you and he finds what he has been lacking.
That said, you guys have a good thing going. You dont need this dude.
I cant even explain how excited we were to get this cat last year. We have poop at WR, and KB wanted to be a #1 so it seemed like a good fit. Ive seen the rationale about not having good qbs etc and honestly there might be a bit of truth to that.... but in the end, that wasnt KBs issue.

After almost 2 seasons, im not sure what he is. We hoped hed be a guy who would gobble up jump balls and help the qb look better. The sad fact of the matter was, when a pass was thrown it got to the point where you hoped it wasnt going his way. His game SHOULD be going up and making a play for his qb. Time after time after time he was out muscled by someone half his size.

Think about that. This dude is 2x the db, but that little guy just got done having his way with him. They kept trying and trying and trying. I can think of 3 times his entire tenure here where he jumped and outplayed his defender to make a play. Not a big deal for a Watkins type - but thats HIS game!!!
Hope that when you need a big play the ball goes nowhere near him. Honestly, ive never seen a WR drop more balls that litterally hit him in the hands. Thats an issue, when you see a ball going towards him in space and you have to worry about him catching it. It got to the point where the only ball he caught was a body catch.

The weird thing was, its a contract year. Ive never seen a player act like they had ALREADY signed that big deal before it happened. Even if he went somewhere else, ya still wanna look good - right? Maybe he got in his own head as he alluded to... maybe not. I dont know, but that brings the next issue..

Alligator arms. Look no further than a play at the goal line last week in MIA. Allen tosses a dime to KB at the goal line. A defender was closing in but still 5 yards away. Instead of making a catch by extending his arms 3/4 of the way, he lets the ball hit him in the hands and just drops it. His last big catch the week before in JAX, he caught it, but still almost dropped it and juggled it. Time and time again, if there was someone closing in the ball went right to the turf. It was almost as if he didnt want to catch it bc that meant contact was coming

The fact of the matter is BUF has a bunch of young speedy no name guys. They could use a big tall posession receiver to make plays, be the guy, and be counted on when ya needed an important catch. He wasnt that. Their young guys are coming along, but you would look at those names and say they are deprived...but yet it was addition by subtraction.

He quits on routes, runs poor routes, refuses to adjust to balls and when its not on the money he just quits and makes no attempt to break up a play. Hes slow to begin with, but if he knew it wasnt coming his way - hed jog.

The final nail in the coffin was last week he and Zay Jones ran the same route across the middle. Zay was 10 deep and KB was 20. Zay got the ball and scored. KB didnt even turn around to see if he caught the ball and instead of turning to celebrate he never turned around and just kept walking around the wall.

We will never know what went on, but his attitude became poor and he was hurting more than helping. That might be ok if you are an asset on the field but he became a hindrance. 5 games in rather than being our #1, fans wanted him cut. When it actually happened, it was in the top 5 highlights of the season. No joke

If i was a Chiefs fan, i wouldnt want this guy anywhere near my team.
You guys have a great thing going and i hope KB ends up helping rather than hurting. I really do. For your sake, if the game is on the line and ya need a big play, i hope its not going his way. Only bad things happen.

As i said, ive really enjoyed your team and your year and am rootimg for you to go places. I loved Mahomes coming out and was excited when we picked Allen as there are a lot of similarities. Seeing KB signed in KC, as a fan who loves the NFL and what you guys are doing was dissappinting and made me sad. Hopefully he is just a low end guy who has no importance placed on him. Im not sure if his ego or head will allow that, but now that its happened i hope it can.

Good luck the rest of the way! Im excited to see where the season takes you guys and i hope this is your year. Cheers!!

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 13940132)

Excellent observation. I also like it when the Bills fans throw Eli Manning bobble heads at Tom Brady.


Maybe next time they will throw the Bernard Pollard dildo at him pregame.

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13940130)

I like it when you guys throw dildos at the Patriots!!!!

Originally Posted by tooge (Post 13940172)

Try that shit with PM2 satch

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 13940175)

ROFL

I almost forgot about that

one of my favorite things ROFL

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 13940177)

Interesting breaking news on that still frame....

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 13940213)

I never noticed that, must have been playoffs maybe? But they don’t run playoff games at the same time :hmmm:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13940035)

Being honest about this, because he can be versatile where he can lineup this may simply be nothing more than a red zone target to offset not having Kareem Hunt.

Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 13940218)

That famous Patriots-Bills playoff game

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 13940258)

I'm very excited about the possibilities of this lazy, lard-assed pickup, and see nothing but great things ahead!

Originally Posted by arrowheadnation (Post 13940264)

Stop hating on the guy's appearance/diet and be happy that top end free agents now WANT to make KC their first choice of a destination.

Originally Posted by GeorgeZimZam (Post 13940283)

If the Chargers had signed him, I doubt we'd see these same platitudes and Patriots analogies. Still, will hope for a turnaround from an otherwise apparent malcontent.

Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 13940176)

Cam put himself in a bad situation in that conversation. He approached Benjamin. He had the look of someone that wanted to instigate something. That's a bad look for a starting QB right before a game.

Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 13940314)

I wonder if he'll get on the field at all against the Ravens? Obviously he won't know the playbook yet, but theoretically he's in football shape...

Originally Posted by Gobills12 (Post 13939857)

Hey Guys!!
Bills fan here.
Congrats on having an awesome year! You guys have an excellent team and have been fun to watch.
Just wanted to offer some 1st hand perspective.
First and foremost, i want to make clear - this isnt a salty post.
I hope KB has success with you and he finds what he has been lacking.
That said, you guys have a good thing going. You dont need this dude.
I cant even explain how excited we were to get this cat last year. We have poop at WR, and KB wanted to be a #1 so it seemed like a good fit. Ive seen the rationale about not having good qbs etc and honestly there might be a bit of truth to that.... but in the end, that wasnt KBs issue.

After almost 2 seasons, im not sure what he is. We hoped hed be a guy who would gobble up jump balls and help the qb look better. The sad fact of the matter was, when a pass was thrown it got to the point where you hoped it wasnt going his way. His game SHOULD be going up and making a play for his qb. Time after time after time he was out muscled by someone half his size.

Think about that. This dude is 2x the db, but that little guy just got done having his way with him. They kept trying and trying and trying. I can think of 3 times his entire tenure here where he jumped and outplayed his defender to make a play. Not a big deal for a Watkins type - but thats HIS game!!!
Hope that when you need a big play the ball goes nowhere near him. Honestly, ive never seen a WR drop more balls that litterally hit him in the hands. Thats an issue, when you see a ball going towards him in space and you have to worry about him catching it. It got to the point where the only ball he caught was a body catch.

The weird thing was, its a contract year. Ive never seen a player act like they had ALREADY signed that big deal before it happened. Even if he went somewhere else, ya still wanna look good - right? Maybe he got in his own head as he alluded to... maybe not. I dont know, but that brings the next issue..

Alligator arms. Look no further than a play at the goal line last week in MIA. Allen tosses a dime to KB at the goal line. A defender was closing in but still 5 yards away. Instead of making a catch by extending his arms 3/4 of the way, he lets the ball hit him in the hands and just drops it. His last big catch the week before in JAX, he caught it, but still almost dropped it and juggled it. Time and time again, if there was someone closing in the ball went right to the turf. It was almost as if he didnt want to catch it bc that meant contact was coming

The fact of the matter is BUF has a bunch of young speedy no name guys. They could use a big tall posession receiver to make plays, be the guy, and be counted on when ya needed an important catch. He wasnt that. Their young guys are coming along, but you would look at those names and say they are deprived...but yet it was addition by subtraction.

He quits on routes, runs poor routes, refuses to adjust to balls and when its not on the money he just quits and makes no attempt to break up a play. Hes slow to begin with, but if he knew it wasnt coming his way - hed jog.

The final nail in the coffin was last week he and Zay Jones ran the same route across the middle. Zay was 10 deep and KB was 20. Zay got the ball and scored. KB didnt even turn around to see if he caught the ball and instead of turning to celebrate he never turned around and just kept walking around the wall.

We will never know what went on, but his attitude became poor and he was hurting more than helping. That might be ok if you are an asset on the field but he became a hindrance. 5 games in rather than being our #1, fans wanted him cut. When it actually happened, it was in the top 5 highlights of the season. No joke

If i was a Chiefs fan, i wouldnt want this guy anywhere near my team.
You guys have a great thing going and i hope KB ends up helping rather than hurting. I really do. For your sake, if the game is on the line and ya need a big play, i hope its not going his way. Only bad things happen.

As i said, ive really enjoyed your team and your year and am rootimg for you to go places. I loved Mahomes coming out and was excited when we picked Allen as there are a lot of similarities. Seeing KB signed in KC, as a fan who loves the NFL and what you guys are doing was dissappinting and made me sad. Hopefully he is just a low end guy who has no importance placed on him. Im not sure if his ego or head will allow that, but now that its happened i hope it can.

Good luck the rest of the way! Im excited to see where the season takes you guys and i hope this is your year. Cheers!!

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 13940248)

Best playoff game never played.

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 13940379)

We lose nothing by doing this. He's never destroyed a locker room. Andy has earned our trust for gods sake with the offense. We are 10-2 so back off the ledge.

Originally Posted by Warpaint69 (Post 13940381)

Well the offensive coaching staff obviously has a plan in mind for Benjamin. It’s also quite possible Andy’s had some formations/plays drawn up already that the current personnel didn’t fit. Without Kareem it’s a perfect time down the stretch here leading up to the playoffs to throw out some new wrinkles within the offense to keep defenses on their heels.