I don't hate Mayfield. I only hate QB's who pose a legitimate threat, and I'm NOT seeing that here. ****, let the NFL put the Tardland Turds on the schedule every year instead of ****ing Buffalo.
I get many yuk-yuks AND a freebie for the 'W' column EVERY SEASON.

Ha ha Baker threatening to beat up a fan for trash talking him


<samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Baker can’t wait to go home and not even think about football for the next 8 months (ig/brennanburnss) <a href="https://t.co/y4kKg1xYy8">pic.twitter.com/y4kKg1xYy8</a></p>&mdash; Barstool Sports (@barstoolsports) <a href="https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1211399090875043840?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 29, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> </code></samp>

Fiery leader. Just a competitor. Totally not a douche.

You're all wrong about him, you'll see.

This guy is going to be a career coach-killer. Any qualified, desirable coach with a brain in his head should avoid Mayfield like the plague. I'd rather take over a team with Tannehill or Fitzpatrick.

Baker isn’t just an average QB, he’s an idiot that doesn’t understand how his dumbass behavior looks at all.

I think a portion of Baker's problems could be solved if he would just shut the **** up.

Is there a coach out there who can successfully get him to do that after Kitchens let him do and say whatever the hell he wants? I don't know if there is. Sure, you could bring in a dipshit hardass like Haley, but Baker might just rebel against that. You could bring in a coach who puts him in positions to succeed on offense, but is that going to get him to behave himself?

I just don't know if there's anybody out there. At least anybody who would actually want the Browns job.

Bastard child of Gunther Cunningham? (RIP Gunny)

I am still laughing at the guy saying "I'm not allowed to"

He probably would beat bAkerz ass.

insurance company needs to drop him for this shit. That is the only way it may (field) wake him up

kitchens fired ROFL

It's funny to think about the preseason when the Browns and Mayfield were being hyped.

I'm STILL jazzed for "watching Baker and Mahomes battle it out for years to come".

LMAO

Browns vs Bears was one of the highest bet SB predictions.

Fans can be obnoxious ***holes to the players, but they was a pitch perfect comeback.

Also - Mayfield is showing real “Ryan Leaf” esque burnout potential. You hope Mayfield is doing alright on a personal level, because this season was brutal. The Browns are in desperate need to find someone with the patience and firmness who can work with him - and oddly, that may have been Gregg Williams.

From The Athletic:

ROFL

Everything is fine, just fine - Zilla

They need a strong head coach to go in there and grab the bull by the horns.

I think they could compete right away with the right head coach and staff.

I would think it would be an attractive job just based in existing players. But it is Cleveland......

I was one of the most critical here on the Freddie kitchens hire and said he would ruin Mayfield. Can the horseshit. Nothing is happening there that I didn't see coming a mile away.

Ruin an already trash QB?

He's still the best QB the browns have seen for decades by a mile. I don't know that you can fix baker. I don't see much of a ceiling for him. But the worst possible thing you can do is bring in a guy who enables his attitude and has no idea how to coach and scheme him.

Sounds like Cleveland wants to hire Josh McDaniels. He could be the right guy to save Baker from being a mega bust.

Might actually be the best spot for him to take his second shot as HC.

Can he cheat in Cleveland?

Seems his run-in with the vendor wasn't the only dust-up Baker had this weekend. From the Athletic...


After throwing his third interception of the afternoon and 21st of the season, Baker Mayfield walked slowly toward the sideline and into the grasp of Freddie Kitchens, who said from the start of spring practice he just wanted his brash young quarterback to be himself.

Mayfield and his coach briefly embraced. Then, in a fit of frustration, the quarterback slammed his helmet to the turf.

He stewed for the final seconds of a dreadful season-ending 33-23 loss to the hapless Bengals before exchanging pleasantries with several Cincinnati players, including Joe Mixon. Upon filing into the locker room with teammates, the face of the franchise took issue with an overzealous stadium vendor who momentarily had been stopped by security to let the Browns players pass.

“Let’s go, Bengals!” the vendor yelled. “Bengals! Whoo!”

The man repeated the chant at least 40 times, but only one player bothered to acknowledge the taunts. Mayfield stuck his head out and shouted, “You better ****ing relax, man.”

Team staffers quickly shepherded the agitated quarterback into the room while a security guard told the vendor to chill: “You’ve had your fun.”

That is how a season of great expectation ended for Mayfield: his rabbit ears on high alert.

Baker is such a little bitch. He has to know that he’s going to get heckled mercilessly when he acts the way he does. Being a brash shit talker is fine, but you have to go back it up. When your team AND YOU ****ing suck, this is what happens.

Mahomes never gives any team bulletin board material. He’s about as gracious as they come. He handles interviews EXACTLY as a franchise QB should.

Mayfield is a total chode and deserves all of the hate he receives.

Can't imagine a worse option for baker. They don't need an arrogant egomaniac managing baker. He'd be better at disciplining baker but would also bring the worst out of him. My sense is that the Haslams want McDaniels. I don't think anyone else does.

After reading the story someone posted here (or on another thread on CP) about the Haslam's from a couple weeks ago I could totally see them being the puppets behind the whole Kitchens fiasco and whatever comes next. I could also see Dorsey not wanting to ever get into another pissing match with a coach and aiming low in their search for a coach.

I didn't realize this, but depodesta pushed for McDermott while Dee haslem insisted on keeping hue Jackson. Over and over and over again. Then depodesta wanted Stefanski instead of kitchens (the Haslams wanted McDaniels). Putting two and two together... If the Browns go with McDaniels, it's because the Haslams are again in control. And that has to be bad news for the entire browns front office.

Baker with McDaniels plus patriot way staff are the ingredients for a voltron mega douche. A gigantic robot couche like this world has never seen before.

Great point -- the lack of talent and eventual implosion will be glorious to watch...

LOL ... Mayfield as a leader ...

I mean, who in the living hell wants to follow a guy into a rumble with a few thousand drunken, pissed-off fans and a squad of stadium vendors?

"Okay, guys! Here's the deal. We attack at dawn. I call it Operation Market Garden!! Who's with me?"

FAX

Not an issue - Chris Meck (and only Chris Meck)

Chris Meck with literally one of the worst takes of the season.

Johnny Manziel 2.0

We'll see if he develops a coke habit here soon and pisses it all away.

That would hurt I'd imagine.

You’d be surprised, cocaine is a great numbing agent. Not that I’d know, but that’s what I hear.

I don’t think most of us are that surprised.

This is who he has been his whole life. This is the same dude that tried to run from the police back at OU, grabbed his crotch on the sideline, etc etc.

A real John Dorsey guy.

Makes me very grateful to have a class act in Mahomes to cheer for.

His little tantrums and skirmishes with fans make me laugh but would be embarrassing if I were a Browns fan.

It'll be interesting to see who his next HC is and how that relationship either helps him to mature or allows him to wallow in his insecurities.

As an OU fan, I hope he gets a good HC that can help him turn the corner.

I think arrogance arrived before success did with him.

Mahomes definitely is a class act and is a fellow East Texas guy. I've just recently signed on here and he's a big reason why.

Welcome.

Let’s ****ing go Chiefs!!!

His only hope is if his wife puts him in his place. She's become accustomed to a certain lifestyle and his mouth is jeopardizing it.

I'm not making a prediction on Mayfield, but as a general proposition, I just can't wrap my head around attitude problems being an unfixable impediment, particularly compared to not having pocket presence or not having touch on your passes.

Maybe move it completely away from the NFL, I firmly believe Phil Jackson could handle all manner of head cases if the talent was there. He was blessed with Jordan and Pippen, but he could have made magic with an Iverson, or a Lambier, or even a Shawn Kemp. Look at how he handled Rodman for Christ's sake.

Absent head trauma or some shit, and unless they are just a plain bad seed like Hernandez or Carruth, it's the essence of a HC job to get the personnel in the right mindset, to be prepared, to be poised, to be alert, to be focused.

If someone can't throw 50 yards on a rope, there isn't a coach on earth who can teach you to. If someone can't stand in the pocket without shitting their skivvies, there isn't a coach on earth who can instill that in you. But if you have physical skills, there HAS TO BE a coach who can get your mind right. Appeal to ego, appeal to competitiveness. Appeal to vanity. Appeal to fear. Show trust if it helps. Show parental love if it helps. Show stern monitoring if it's required . . . find the levers that bring out the best and yank them heartily. That's coaching.

For the most part, underachieving talent is a coaching failure above all other failures.

Bradshaw was a sensitive and emotional soul who hated Knoll with a passion that would bring him to tears, but Knoll handled him in a particular way that led to the league's first dynasty, while leaning on Bradshaw's mental and emotional state a good deal.

Not everyone can be a self-starter in all facets like Mahomes, or Farve and Manning and Starr and on and on before him. But talent can be corraled. It can't be bestowed, but if it's there it can be corraled.

Big Ben and cam are pretty good examples. I agree. It's not like manziel with off field distractions. It's not like TO with on field distractions. The dude is offputtingly arrogant. You can harness some of that confidence into good and minimize the negatives that comes with. Not get rid of, just limit it.

An Alpha dog coach needs to come in and put a foot in his ass.

Teach him to harness his “**** you” in the right direction.

I think he can be decent, but needs a man at coach. An offensive line that doesn’t completely suck will help, too.

I've said it already, but Bienemy would be a really great hire for the Browns.

This is how I knew Baker wouldn't be great. He couldn't even outrun a couple of cops. ****ing weak.

I'm still kind of intrigued by Jameis in TB. He seems to have a great attitude from a competitiveness and willingness to work standpoint, but he has massive mental deficits in decision making.

The NFLs first 30-30 QB and an ostensible QB guru is a fascinating experiment. Glad it's not on my dime, but it remains intriguing to monitor.

I doubt Andy would let EB destroy his career like that. I guarantee you he’s telling EB to avoid Cleveland at all costs. I think NY would be a good spot for him. They have a young QB who had a surprisingly good rookie season, a stud RB, and good weapons on the outside. If they can improve their offensive line EB would have a pretty good offense right off the bat to call plays for. And the Giants may be dysfunctional right now, but they’re not the Browns. They’re salvageable, they’re a respectable org even with their recent downfalls.

Father is to blame for that. Definitely anointed way way way too early. You wonder if he enjoys watching all of his commercials.;)

I agree with most of your post here but the downside of the Giants is that Gettleman is on the hot seat and any coach who comes in under a hot seat GM usually ends in disaster. Giants need defense and would make sense to hire a defensive minded coach but........

Why would he do that to himself?

You would think Bienemy would want to be pretty picky about a HC position. He has a pretty sweet gig here and there will always be opportunities for him as long as he’s Andy Reid’s OC with Patrick Mahomes at QB.

If he jumps for the wrong job and fails badly (like could be possible in Cleveland), he may kill his stock since he isn’t an established head coach.

Ive said before Jameis is a better version of Ryan Fitzpatrick. You could do a lot worse. But that type of decision making is barely going to make you a. 500 team. Especially with the $ James thinks he deeerves.

And this is why I still give even 1/8" of a **** about the NFL.
This is correct.

I know the guy was obligated and probably cringed as he (or his social media team) hit the 'tweet' button but still...rough day for commercial releases, Baker.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The rumors are true. Hulu really does have live sports. And yes, I’m getting paid for this �� <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/HuluHasLiveSports?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#HuluHasLiveSports</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/HuluSellouts?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#HuluSellouts</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CancelCable?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CancelCable</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ThisIsDefinitelyAnAd?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ThisIsDefinitelyAnAd</a> <a href="https://t.co/9wUSNiYcjN">pic.twitter.com/9wUSNiYcjN</a></p>&mdash; Baker Mayfield (@bakermayfield) <a href="https://twitter.com/bakermayfield/status/1215682431807700992?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 10, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hulu probably should've considered this a sunk cost and waited until next season. Or at least until Cleveland had a coach and a GM after Baker got both of the previous ones fired.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is an important detail for today’s interview for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Patriots?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Patriots</a> OC Josh McDaniels with the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Browns?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Browns</a>: His wife Laura is on the trip. It is possible, if all goes well, Cleveland could close it out today. All the pieces are in place as a big decision looms for the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Browns?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Browns</a>.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1215650153295683585?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 10, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I hear a lot of jokes about Cleveland the city, but what is it really like?

Would a wife like it?

Will they accept cheating with open arms?

If baker mayfield is the guy walking into a parking lot soaked in lighter fluid, McDaniels is the match.

"Pack your bags honey, we are going to Cleveland, Hawaii!"

If I'm Bienimy, I stay put. I wouldn't take a HC gig simply for the sake of taking an HC gig. particularly if that gig is the Browns.

with the amount of turnover each year, there is bound to be a better opprotunity in the future; and depending on how this season shakes out, hell...he might be KC's head coach sooner than later. If Andy win's a SB....does he call it quits?

LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Watch Kacie Dingess&#39; Interview Where She Claims Baker Mayfield Had Burner Snapchat to Meet Women to Give Him Oral Sex Behind Cheesecake Factory After Getting Married; Other Woman Calls In to Confirm Story (Snaps-Pics-Vid-Cheesecakes) <a href="https://t.co/LZdmMDZPyp">https://t.co/LZdmMDZPyp</a> <a href="https://t.co/jQS3jyZZjP">pic.twitter.com/jQS3jyZZjP</a></p>&mdash; Robert Littal (@BSO) <a href="https://twitter.com/BSO/status/1227349630331031553?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 11, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Andy ain't retiring any time soon. Dude lives for his job.

I remember when Joel Klatt screeched about how you can't compare Baker to Johnny Manziel. Totally unfair!

Uhh... yeah, about that. In terms of the balance between "just a fiery competitor who loves winning" and Johnny Manziel, Baker Mayfield definitely leans heavy to the Johnny Manziel side

That’s why you don’t take head from frumpy gold diggers, Baker.

From the Mic'd Up's I've heard, both Garapalo and Lamar seemed pretty insecure.

What did you expect when dude got tilted by freaking Kansas when Kansas was the worst P5 team by far.

https://blacksportsonline.com/2020/0...ter-getting/2/

The interview video

What happened to give an NFL QB a few seasons to figure it all out?

This QB made his first pro bowl in his sixth season, he was benched a couple times. Ending up winning four SB's, yep.....Terry Bradshaw.

LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">here is the video of <a href="https://twitter.com/TonyGrossi?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TonyGrossi</a> not realizing he was on-air when he called <a href="https://twitter.com/bakermayfield?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@bakermayfield</a> a “f***ing midget”<br><br>Goldhammer and Rizzo immediately knew this was trouble. Jesus, Tony. <a href="https://t.co/I503raDLbT">pic.twitter.com/I503raDLbT</a></p>&mdash; Ohio’s Tate (@BarstoolTate) <a href="https://twitter.com/BarstoolTate/status/1232376205854347266?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 25, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Dude who said it has been suspended indefinitely

Baker has yet another enemy in the media LMAO

To figure what out? How to not be a total piece of shit? How to not engage with everyone that makes you cry yourself to sleep. Hell Baker is not only the most insecure QB of all time, hes the most insecure pro athlete of all time. ****ing whiny bitch is all he is.

So this guy is basically the Cleveland version of Kietzman?

if he had said f'ing little person he might have gotten away with it...LMAO

Big deal Jesus can’t say shit anymore

****in midgets

accidental thumbs down

It’s blatantly obvious that Mahomes was all Veach.