Passing is the strength of the Chiefs. #1 passing offense vs. #13 passing defense. Old Rivers put up 300 on that defense

It will be a tough game but the Chiefs have waited all year for these moments

Again, if he plays, it's because he's healthy and there's no risk. Andy Reid isn't going to hold anything back with the Super Bowl on the line.

And as far as the "teeth" of that defense, it doesn't really matter. The Chiefs passed the ball just fine against pretty much everybody, including a couple of teams with top 5 pass defenses.

Kelce's a beast, no doubt about it.

I can't speak for the Bills coaching staff,

Stop Kelce you stop K C in my humble opinion.

I tried to give you rep for this ( good )

I once was conned then I cussed.

Was that a fully body concussion?

His worst game this season KC won by 27. Every other game nobody has “stopped” him. 70 yards, he still gets at least one TD.

My guess is that if you find a way to actually stop him, Hill will have about 200 yards and a couple of TDs. Best chance is the offense comes out flat like the Atlanta game. That or winning a shootout.

Lol

Wouldnt count on run heavy. Bills will change the game plan from 1st game.

Kelce had 5 or more catches in 14 games this season.

The two games he didn't, the Chiefs won by 16 and 27 points, respectively.

If you think they're going to stop Kelce, good luck with that.

Not enough

Tennessee held Kelce in check (30 yards) during the AFC Championship Game last year. Didn’t stop KC

Assuming Mahomes plays I think this is gonna be a 38-35 game one way or another. I don’t see a lot of rushing. You’re right, the Bills are gonna change things up.

If Mahomes plays it's gonna get ugly

I think KC wins regardless though

Kelce is a very big problem for Buffalo

A shootout is what the whole football world wants to see in the AFC Championship.

I'm game...

Just PM Bob Dole and ask him for positive rep.

Maybe. I'd bet against Buffalo scoring 35 points though.

The Chiefs have only given up 35 or more TWICE in the last two seasons.

In fact, they've given up 30 or more only 8 times in their last 35 games.

I predict shootout. It’s gonna be fun...and bad for my blood pressure.

Everybody thought last week would be a shootout. They held Cleveland to 17 points.

Keep ****ing doubting the Chiefs defense. ;)

I’m a consummate pessimist when it comes to the Chiefs defense so I’m likely undervaluing it. I think the Bills had their flat game last week and think they’ll come out firing. But I see us moving the ball pretty much at will as well. I’m of the opinion that Reid has been playing games at arm’s length all season until last week. I expect the kitchen sink.

Should be fun.

You and me both, (shootout or not)

There's no stopping Kelce. Everyone has tried it. The best that any team ever did was NE a coupl- three years ago. Belichick used two players to jam Kelce at the LoS on every snap. Then the year after they changed the rules and no one's ever managed to stop Kelce since. Short of expending ridiculous resources, you're not stopping Travis. BUF will either put a LB/S or CB/S on Kelce, and hope to contain him. Maybe he only catches 5-6 for 50-70 yds, and a TD. If you're lucky.

Have to double Hill with a CB/S. There's no going 1v1 with him, I don't care how good you think T. White is. No DC that wants to keep his job would do that. So doubling Hill.

That's four players to cover two guys.

Now you still have to cover Watkins, Drob/Hardman. And CEH. That's singling up on those three guys. At least one if not two of them will get open on every passing snap.

So no bringing 6 rushers. Forget about that. At most you're bringing 5. Otherwise, you're only rushing 3-4. Which means letting Mahomes stand in the pocket and survey the field.

This is not a good situation for BUF, period.

And we haven't even talked about the rushing attack with CEH.

Or the fact that in week 6 we held Allen to just 122 yards passing.

And this isn't about BUF being a good or bad team. I think offensively BUF is a pretty good team. But defensively, they're running into the same problem the rest of the league has run into, which is that there simply aren't enough defenders for the task. And BUF's passing defense might be good, but KC has already faced and beaten the top 5 passing defenses in the league. Some of them more than once in the last two seasons.

BUF doesn't have a top 5 passing defense, so they're behind the 8-ball before the game even begins.

KC's defense held CLE to 9 points below their season average.

And, if anyone cared to look, KC's defense has held almost every playoff team that they've faced this season to nearly a TD (or more) below their average.

But, and it won't take a minute, one of these trolls will pop up and say, "KC's defense is ranked in the bottom half of the league!" Because they won't even take a second to look and understand that that 'ranking' is based off total yards/season. No context at all.

Which is actually how I like it now. I love it when some goob says that shit. Just proves their ignorance right off the bat. And it's just beautiful when our D proves them wrong whenthe game is actually played.

Bills fans get it. Same boat, lots of teams playing catch up. Points and yardage in garbage time.

I was confident going into last weeks game until Pat got hurt. If Pat starts we win. The Chiefs are battle tested against better opponents and we simply have too many weapons for the Bills to keep up.

Also I’d like to point out that good barbecue is an art form that takes years to perfect whereas buffalo wings are overrated bar food that anyone can make.

ROFL

For a few minutes I was very concerned after Mahomes got hurt. But then everyone stepped up. Hill, Kelce, Williams . . . and basically the entire defense after that 18 play drive. And I don't even fault them for that drive. Let's give credit where credit is due.

CLE as an offensive unit balled out on that drive. They didn't get a bunch of cheese from the refs; they drove down the field and made a bunch of great plays. Some of those pass-and-catches were as good as they could be.

But on the next drive, KC stoned them. 6 plays, 12 yards, 4 minutes and change. PUNT.

And then our offense ran out the last 4 minutes of the game. Like they've done a dozen times before this season. just 4 years ago we probably lose that game. Now, it's just what we do.

You mean better opponents like the Raiders? A team K C struggled against. Buffalo, not so much IMO.

Keep clinging to that Raiders loss. You of all people should know that division games are a whole different beast. You play them twice a years, every year.

Meanwhile, the Chiefs beat the ****ing BILLS, head to head. They beat the Buccaneers, the Saints, the Ravens, and finally the Browns. They beat 3 of the top 5 DVOA teams, all 3 ON THE ROAD.

Moron.

When did KC struggle against LVR? Check the boxscores. KC scored plenty. 67 points between the two games this season? How is that struggling?

Spags made two bad calls in the first meeting, which he owned in the post-game presser. He made two mistakes, and it ended up giving LVR 2 TDs.

In the second game, he didn't make those mistakes, and we won.

We swept our Division so theres that...

Don't bother.

It was fun while it lasted but he's going down the rathole now. Just like the other trolls.

Every year? Dumbass.

Ummm, losing

I was worried that they had Kareem Hunt with fresh legs running the ball down the stretch. I think our last defensive series doesn’t get enough credit for that three and out they forced.

Can you guys even form a post without the insults?

Seriously...

Meh. He hasn't tried to tick me off, so until then, he's at zero. He's not a negative or a positive. Yet.

Besides, I'm bored. I need to talk football with someone. Not picky right now.

Chiefs 26, Bill 17.

End of argument.

Absolutely we can. But after 100 posts of the same stupid bullshit from you trolls, there's not much left. Don't sit here and pretend this conversation STARTED with insults.

You won't listen to reason. After a while, it gets boring trying to talk football with someone who doesn't want to actually talk football.

No, where not done, not on the field we're not.

You will be after this weekend.

You won't want to watch football again after Sunday

Probably because you were talking about who was sexier between Allen and Mahomes.

:facepalm:

Doesn't make me Gay

You have probably insulted me the most and its posters like you that give this forum a bad reputation IMO.

It certainly makes you either gay, female, or just plain weird.

No straight male football fan on the face of the earth even thinks about what a QB looks like, let alone how he compares to the other team's starting QB.

Seriously, it's ****ing creepy.

that's standard CP-ese for "Hi fan for another team!"

Sorry. Actualy it's supposed to be "Hi gay fan for another team! Are you a pussy or can you hang?"

Something like that. There's a dictionary or whatever somewhere around here.

you either have thick skin and can put up with the hazing, or you can't. 99% can't. They all either disappear in a huff well before gameday, or they never return once their team loses.

But as a fan for another team, to get any respect around here, you have to show that you can take shit.

I'm a lifelong Chiefs fan, and I took shit for months at first in here.

There's plenty of people in here that still give me shit, and I've been on here three years.

Grow a pair of big balls, or go home. That's CP for Darwin's Law.

Or kiss allot of ass

Never seen that work. But i've only been on the forum for 3 years. So maybe that would work.

But my gut says probably not.:thumb:

Your guy is losing the poll badly on our forum. Comments like kermit the frog. I thought it would be a good idea to invite some of you over to vote. Make it fair. Bad idea.

My originally intention was to get the poll going on twitter. All in good fun. Our forum enjoyed it. Simple poll, who's sexier on the field. Allen or Mahomes. No reason for all the animosity.

Comment wasn't meant for me.

Honestly, If you beat us I'll still be watching.

Big fan of Mahomes, and the excitement he brings to the league.

so I'll be rooting for him to kick some old farts ass.

Get some thicker skin jesus, my first year on here I posted some dumbass thread and had my name changed to dingleberry. I was pissed for like 10 seconds then embraced it because of my own stupidity it made it funny.

If this happens Hill gets 200 yards receiving as well as Hardman.

Is there a specific brand of dildo that #BillsMafia prefer?

Allen is a good QB he is just not PMII. I am sorry but Allen does not have the resume of Mahomes. When Allen Wins a league MVP, SB mvp, throws for 50 TDs and 5k yards come back.

With that said, we are not saying Allen sucks or at least I am not. Allen is a good qb and is getting better he is just no PMII

We swept your division too, and the NFCS.

Well we should have swept the NFCW too if not for the hail Murray...so there is that too.

As for playoff games...indy got 14 points in the fourth when we switched to our prevent. We suck in prevent. But thru 3 quarters they had 10 points and ravens only managed 3 thru the game. You can claim we got diced by rivers but they got almost 200 yards in 4th...just like KC gives up a bunch of yards late in garbage time.

I don't think any of the bills fans think this won't require our best game of the season to win but you guys are also a little delusional on the delta between the 2 teams.

Check the strength of schedule and other metrics. This team beat a lot of good teams and a lot of good defenses. Good luck.

Not looking to change anyone's mind. Just bringing a different perspective.

In case you didn't realize Josh Allen's 2nd year he had 23 td's and 7 interpretations.with no number 1 wide receiver on the roster.

Not often but we will. We will then drop a lineman back in the passing lanes.

Again. Not saying what will or won't work. Saying what we will do.

Our D has the pieces to compete. Will they. Guess we will see. But we have 2 fast LBs that can cover. 2 great safties and are deep at CB.

I think how their defence sets up will be really interesting. Last time they were seemingly petrified of our deep passing and as a result let us get a ton of rushing yards.

What will they do this time?

Re: creating pressure on Mahomes:

I’ll say this: if the Bills come out with a game plan that involves sending a lot of blitz-based pressure, especially from the secondary, it isn’t going to end well for them.

The Ravens have tried that type of stuff against Mahomes. They’re 0-3 against him, and the only matchup that was particularly close was the first one... when he hadn’t seen that type of approach yet as a first-year starter.

If you watch the game tape from the Chiefs’ drubbing of the Ravens earlier this year, you’ll see what happens.

The Bills just don’t match up defensively with KC. They can hope his mobility is actually limited, but all indications are that’s just hope. He was moving fine before the injury Sunday and was hurt on a play that requires him to sprint and cut quickly. If his toe was that bad, that’s not in the playbook.

He’ll run selectively, as usual in the playoffs.

The Bills’ chance to win comes with this: being able to score a lot of points and hoping to create a turnover that sets up a score.

That’s the only formula that really succeeds against Mahomes-led KC.

And if you really want that to happen, the best way to make it happen is to play those high-quality safeties deep, make KC make more plays, and hope that a tipped pass happens.

And I get that the Bills are excited to have Matt Milano back for this game. Chiefs fans are equally excited to have Sneed available.

The guy has quietly been the one of the best rookie DBs in the NFL. He’s good enough that the Chiefs have moved Mathieu out of the slot - and moving Mathieu into the slot CB role was the key to the team’s success down the stretch last year as it won the Super Bowl.

Sneed just took Jarvis Landry out of the game. He’s going to severely blunt Beasley’s impact.

If both Fenton and Breeland are ruled out for KC, that would change things and give Buffalo a lot better matchup... because then Sneed is playing outside and Mathieu is back in the slot instead of being used as a creative disruption. It takes away some of Spagnuolo’s options

That’s fine. We’ve been through it all. Lost the best quarterback on the planet for a few games last year and still went on to win the Super Bowl after trailing every playoff game by double digits. We’ve been through it all as a team and Fanbase. The problem is some random fan on the Internet saying they’re hungry or or their team is hungrier it’s really just words. Hungrier means nothing, this is the playoffs where experience coaching and elite players are going to make the difference. I give Kansas City the nod in all three areas as they’re more battle tested, they’re in the middle of running it back for a second straight title, and they have more elite players than the bills do. So we’ll see how it plays out on Sunday but if I was a bills fan I wouldn’t be holding my breath, Or you’ll likely be dead before you actually see your team won a Super Bowl.

The Chiefs wins over last few weeks vs same opponents.


4 pt win AT Las Vegas and a loss. Bills won by 7
6 pt win VS Denver Bills won by 29
6 pt win AT Miami Bills won by 30

Just saying

Ok. I guess that’s more relevant than our beating you head-to-head in a game that you were never really very competitive in. Keep hanging your hat on the transitive property of sports which has no actual bearing on what’s likely to happen on Sunday.

Fed up of hearing if it wasn't for the hail Murray. The hail Murray did happen, like it or not.

I think it is clear now that the NFCS is better than NFCW given how the teams have played in the playoffs.

The Bills also are more likely to choke given they have no AFC Championship experience. I was worried about the Bills towards the end of the regular season but I thought you were awful offensively against the Colts and Ravens.

Trying to sell the idea you dominated the Colts until the 4th quarter isn’t going to fly, man.

1) Most of us watched the game (because it was a boring playoff weekend if we didn’t).
2) Those who didn’t can still look at the game log. The Colts left a TD’s worth of points on the field, between the missed FG, foolishly going for a 4th and 4 in a 3-point game instead of kicking a FG, and then having to go for 2 late as a result of the FG situation.

That stuff all happened before the 4th quarter.

This is how you are getting yourself psyched for the Chiefs?!

Honestly, it really shows how large the gap between KC and Buffalo is.

We have been playing in big games for 3 years now. The regular season is all about winning our division and then securing the bye.

We did both. Running up the score on teams that quit like Denver and New England in December won't help you this week. While your backup QB was throwing bombs against Miami after the game was over we were resting our key players.

We are a defending Super Bowl Champion. Your team looks like it was grasping for relevancy.

Regular season is over. Playoffs are about elite talent/elite coaching and finding another gear.

Mahomes has averaged 35 points per game in his playoff appearances.

Josh Allen led Buffalo to only 1 TD in 2 out of your 3 playoff games. Last week your team looked awful on offense. Ravens D is good but was similar in points allowed to the Chiefs.

You guys are about to get bounced.

If they win, they get destroyed in the Super Bowl. Allen never recovers. Loss- win

Comparing scores? Ok...

Why not compare the score of the game they actually played each other?

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Or compare the most recent PLAYOFF game where Buffalo's offense looked pop gun against the Ravens while the Chiefs regularly destroy those same corners?

Josh Allen 1 TD where Daboll manufactured some easy throws and offense because his QB was struggling to complete passes against basic man coverage.

There is a reason for that, sparky.

I think I heard that no team has reached the Sb without the bye week for some time. I am not sure on the years but I did hear that.

Best defenses I've seen vs Patrick Mahomes are probably the Chargers & 49ers. That of course requires you to manufacture a pass rush using 4 down lineman named...Bosa, Ingram, Buckner & Bosa. Good Luck.

You have to get pressure by not sacrificing people in coverage. You bring a blitz & you are dead meat.

The combination of Mahomes, Andy Reid as a play designer and caller, and the Chiefs WR's makes the Chiefs nearly impossible to cover. This season, defenses have hoped to prevent the big passing play by using two deep safeties. It is the best way to slow down the Chiefs offense that I've seen. Buffalo kept two deep and a light box up front in order to dare the Chiefs to run. The Chiefs obliged but the Bills couldn’t stop them on the ground. The Chargers were able to use that deep coverage and add on with four-man pressures that allowed for more coverage on the second level. And just by keeping the game close, that still left a chance for the Chiefs to pull away at the end of the game for wins.

The coverage aren’t so much about if the Chiefs will beat the defense but more so how the Chiefs will beat the defense. That’s the problem with stopping the Chiefs offense, solving one problem creates another. This is incredibly oversimplified, but Tyreek Hill has been able to feast on single-high coverage and when the Chiefs face two-high safeties, it’s time for Travis Kelce. Pick your poison.

Even the best corners in the league haven’t been able to hold up and few safeties have the range to get from the middle of the field over to the sideline in order to catch Hill on the outside. Take the Tampa Bay game when the Buccaneers tried to run their typical defense, but even Carlton Davis, who had played like one of the better corners in the league, could only do so much in man coverage. He repeatedly got burned in the first quarter. Hill had six receptions on seven targets for 188 yards and three touchdowns against single-high coverages in that game.

Kelce’s ability to work the intermediate middle of the field when the safeties are playing deep has been a huge part of the Kansas City passing game this season and a big reason why he has had the greatest season by a TE in NFL history as teams have been employing the 2-high tactic. Between Reid's route concepts and Kelce’s run after the catch ability, he’s been one of the more productive receivers after the catch.

For as much as defenses have tried to vary game plans against the Chiefs, the best defense this year has been an offense able to keep up. That’s how the Raiders gave the Chiefs their lone loss with Mahomes.

Buffalo might still present the most interesting test as a team that figured out how to slow down the offense, but couldn’t stop the run when they dared the Chiefs to do it. But since that game, the Bills’ run defense has improved, which could limit the damage done on the ground, though it’s no guarantee the Chiefs would give in to the light boxes again. But the Bills’ pass defense has also improved after a rough start and on its best day, the Buffalo offense has the ability to put up points.

Still, we’re talking about everything breaking just right for a team to defend and hang with the Chiefs. It’s not impossible, but even without blowing teams away, Kansas City has made it as hard as possible to take them down.

Good Luck!

You don't want to talk about the Chiefs going into Buffalo and physically dominating your fraud team?

Josh Allen, 122 yards passing for the entire game?

Mahomes usually gets that yardage by the middle of the first quarter.

Any good promo vidoes for this game? To get the blood pumped

Probably not what you are looking for...

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This has always been the dumbest argument. "You beat X team by less points than we beat X team so that means we're better than you."

Especially when there was a head to head match-up this year when the Chiefs physically manhandled Buffalo and held Josh Allen to 122 yards passing.

No need for lame indirect comparisons.

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Why are the bills fans discounting this?

Yes it may have been in week 6 but a win is a win is a win.

No, don't pay attention to when we actually played to compare teams. You have to look at common opponents and then compare scores to see how things will actually go.

They find a way to discount everything - the wind, the rain, the Hail Murray blah blah blah