guess we are all ravens fans this weekend

Meh. If the Chiefs have to pay the consequences of ****ing around and finding out against the Colts, so be it.

I mean, let's say they wake him up and he's not ok. God forbid that happens... but, we have to speculate that is a real possibility.

Then what?

They could keep the same date for the SB and still move back all the playoff weeks (cancelling the Pro Bowl week instead). Seems like it would be a logistical nightmare though.

I highly doubt the Super Bowl would be in any question but everything leading up to that is probably in play. There's no easy solution but it's going to have to be something that creates a situation we've never seen before and makes things unfair for someone.

I assume Lamar comes back for that one given it could mean the division. It's winnable if he does.

Do they just move the NFC games as well.

Personally I think with tv and scheduling the ship of playing the game has sailed. Guessing Buffalo and Cincey would prefer not to have a physical game a week prior to the playoffs starting. They did get 3 quarters of less wear and tear and injury risk. The only question is who getting messed over with seeding.

But the Bills don't have to pay the consequences of ****ing around with teams they shoulda beat? Same goes for the Bengals.

Chiefs getting hosed is not "so be it". But we'll have to let it go and deal with it anyway.

Imagine if the Chiefs lose to the Raiders...then what, we drop to the 3rd seed? Because those two ****ing teams don't wanna play their game?

"The show must go on."
-Vince McMahon

I think that postponing and possibly abandoning last night's game is just about the most everyone can do for them. The Bills need to play this weekend, they can't expect the world to stand still and sit out indefinitely.

Oh I agree. They are wanting to wait for an update so they don't take the pr hit. I think they know what they want to do but can't yet.

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This is really the question related to playing the game. If they want to move everything back a week to accommodate finishing this game that’s okay by me. I’m also okay with them cancelling the game and going by winning percentage but would like it if they come up with a way to get the game in which is not perfect but probably the most fair way to proceed.

Moving back a week could give the Chiefs two weeks off if they ended up with the one seed, but outside of that and the lack of a week off for Bills and Bengals (and possibly not having an extra week ahead of the Super Bowl — unless they moved that too which I doubt they would) that would be the extent of it.

Bills and Bengals should have the opportunity to play the game if they want.

Could also see them moving the AFC title game to a neutral site. But the first round bye is the hard one

Mike Reiss thinks the Bills want their game vs Patriots pushed back..

That would ruin the wildcard last spot drama and effect many teams...

I’d like to again point out that the old 6-team playoff format with the top 2 getting byes was the perfect system.

LMAO The game not being played is best case scenario for us. If these chuckle****s lose to the Raiders when they control their own destiny then **** them.

ok wait a minute

the bengals should STILL play their starters in a replay, because then they could get the two seed by virtue of tiebreaker over buffalo

Ravens can't win the division right now with a win if the Buffalo/Cincy game is canceled. But a win moves the Ravens to the #5 seed and sends the Chargers to #6 and a game with the Bengals.

The Bills ruined the season.

If that's true, the Bills can **** off. I doubt it's true. Or is should say, they may want it, but it aint happening.

Yeah, I think it's dumber for them to commit to not playing the game this week with no other details on a plan, than simply saying they're still working it all out.

I don't think it's necessarily a terrible thing to have no clue right now if the game will be played tomorrow or whatever, but like you said, most likely there's no situation where Hamlin is immediately fine or that players just flip a switch and want to go back to focusing on football.

I think the opportunity to play would have been today or tomorrow. When the Bill's left town that ship sailed. Playing it after week 18 would be a joke.

JFC this is bullshit.

The NFL cannot disrupt the entire season as Buffalo continues to deal with their mental state over one player.

Either they play or they forfeit.

If the Bengals beat the Ravens, they win the division and have a chance at the 2 seed by winning at home against Buffalo, which also guarantees they wouldn’t have to travel to Buffalo in the divisional round.

ESPN reporter at Bills facility who spoke with team rep said team is not surprised game called off this week and team would be surprised if it gets played at all.

Way too much thought being put into this over one guy, who is still alive btw.

Treating the cardiac event like it has never happened before is pure sensationalism from the media. Which is partly driving the NFL's lack of a decision to get back to business even more troubling to an already troubling event.

There's talk thar the Bills could forfeit which would really **** the league as they'd just hand the last WC to NE screwing over several teams.

Correct, but if the Ravens win, it puts significant pressure on the Bills/Bengals game to be played because it will decide a division winner/home playoff game for Baltimore. The Ravens would be livid if it didn't.

if you're the bengals, you're definitely playing for the two seed in a potential week 19 replay

why would you want to go to buffalo at any point?

I don’t agree with this. Cincy would still have a shot at the 2 seed if they beat Buffalo. Do you think they’re just going to roll over and say, “We don’t care. We’d rather go to KC than host Buffalo at home in the divisional round” if all the favorites win out?

Assuming it doesn't get played at all. Which is not exactly what's been said yet.

If the Bills beat the Bengals fair and square, then sure. Chiefs don't deserve the #1 seed in that situation, but the Bengals would lose, thus keeping the Chiefs in the driver seat for #2 even with a loss to the Raiders.

This.

The Bengals would much rather go to KC than BUF for a potential AFCCG.

This isn't even a question.

I wouldn't put it past this team.

It's happened before.

So is he dead and we just don't know it or what? If he's at least in stable condition this is nonsensical.

Can you imagine the atmosphere in Buffalo for a playoff game against the Bengals after this?

Does the NFL league office care? I seriously doubt it.

Have to rip the bandaid off at some point if you're the NFL. Not doing it today is only going to ramp up the pressure and continue the very negative discourse the next few days while waiting for news on Hamlin that likely never comes.

They got bad advice here.

That’s the talk on Buffalo radio right now. Bills forfeiting the Pats game. Merely speculation of course.

I can’t imagine any team is going to publicly voice their displeasure if they get screwed in this.

Stable condition while in a coma hooked up to machines keeping him alive is not great. Really hope he can pull a miracle when they attempt to wake him up, which might be in the next 12 hours or so. If he wakes up with normal brain function, that would be amazing.

Why do morons keep posting this "he's dead and they just won't say it" BS? Pretty clear that is not the case.

If Buffalo told the league "**** no, we aren't playing this week", there's nothing the league could do without it being a PR catastrophe.

Force Buffalo to commit to a Wednesday game with Hamlin's life still up in the air? Hell no.

Force Buffalo to forfeit with Hamlin's life still up in the air? Also a Hell no.

Schedule a Week 19 game and push back every other team for a week? Least PR disaster option, but comes at the expense of every other team and should only be the last possible option.

It’s even worse than that.

If they let Buffalo win, Buffalo gets the 1 and KC gets the 2. That means they’d draw at KC in the divisional round. And if the favorites win out, then they’d need to go to Buffalo.

If they win and get the 2 seed, they’d get Buffalo at home and then at KC or home against whatever in the AFCCG.

Plenty to play for.

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Mike Reiss: “Wouldn’t be shocked” if Patriots-Bills isn’t played Sunday
Tyler Milliken
January 3rd
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On Zolak & Bertrand, Mike Reiss of ESPN explained that he wouldn’t be shocked if Patriots-Bills isn’t played on Sunday.

Reiss' Theory On How Things Could Play Out...
Marc Bertrand: So what about Sunday?

Mike Reiss: I think it’s in question. And to me and again, I have no information. But to me, it’s in question until until you get more information. We want the answer now, obviously, and I think the answer we want is that he’s going to come out of this and be okay. But if we don’t have any information along those lines, I think anything’s in play.

Marc Bertrand: You would not be shocked if the Patriots game was not played this week?

Mike Reiss: Would not be shocked.

Scott Zolak: Wow.

Mike Reiss: So if you’re the Bills and I think Vic Carucci, and Vic Carucci for those who don’t know is a veteran reporter in Buffalo. It was something along the lines of look the Bills already have a playoff spot locked up. The idea that they say we’ll just take a forfeit on the Bengals game, take a forfeit on the Patriots game and give ourselves the space. Because I think the other thing and I don’t know how much you guys talked about it, I listened a little bit on the way in, is the mental health aspect of this. When you’re a player and you watch this on the field and Beetle, I don’t know, you might be going against me on this…

Marc Bertrand: No, I’m just I’m going through that scenario.

Scott Zolak: This is how it affects us, though. You say that then the Patriots are in the playoffs.

Marc Bertrand: Yeah, if that’s how it plays out, the Patriots are automatically in and those teams that are on the cusp, you know, fighting for that final spot all automatically get eliminated, without there being a sort of a fair play out of the season?

Mike Reiss: I think it would be very disappointing for them. But I think if there’s one circumstance that they would have to understand a player almost dying on the field and I hope that he comes through, I would hope that they understand.

Marc Bertrand: I think those guys would be pissed.

I doubt he's dead. My guess from everything we've heard so far about him is that he's stable but they're likely waiting to see what his brain function is (if any). That will all depend on how long he went without oxygen.

Only way they do that is if the Chiefs lose. They're not going to throw away the revenue that comes with hosting home playoff games.

Is that the best way to honor Damar Hamlin? To just quit and decide not to play these games?

No "Win one for the Gipper" spirit in Buffalo?

I would bet the NFC playoffs would begin on the current schedule and possibly the #5 versus AFC South if # 5 is decided without Bengals Bills being played.

I would guess Bengals Bills will not be played or if it is played after week 18, there will be 4 wildcard games played on time and 2 played a little later.

It's just a hard situation that is going to have to be overcome by someone.

If we have to play in Buffalo and lose or something like that, we're not going to be blaming the road game, we're going to be blaming the tackle play, the special teams play, the defense not showing up, the lack of a pass rush, etc...

You always have to win on the field despite outside factors, they are just different this time. And crying about it will net you the same thing it always does.

I understand not playing the game last night. But not playing the following week would be some real bitch shit.

If the Chargers host the AFCCG, that won't be a problem.

Only part of this entire exchange that matters:

“Mike Reiss: I think it’s in question. And to me and again, I have no information.”

The dude is throwing stuff against the wall. Utterly meaningless.

Fans are emotional, especially the guys that have the balls to call into a radio station.

My gut tells me Buffalo will officially play 16 games or they will play tomorrow. It's rough but there aren't many other options.

This is NOT how we want the 1 seed.

What do you want to happen, JDL?

I just got my tickets to Jack Murphy Stadium on Stubhub.

Oh of course not.

Chiefs/Ravens will say all the right things. Would expect nothing less.

Yeah, whatever happened to "he'd want us to play"?

Not sure if that qualifies as a neutral site with 70% opposing fans in attendance.

If Tarryon Johnson misses time from last night’s injury, Bills will be missing a lot of their best DBs.

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Cincinnati, if KC were to lose to LV could have a shot at the #1 seed. Too many implications if they don’t play it. Buffalo already has the AFCE wrapped up. A tie with Cincinnati benefits them most of all, especially if KC loses.

I don't think there's much likelyhood of brain death. He got CPR almost immediately, and that keeps oxygen going to brain.

https://www.verywellhealth.com/brain...arrest-1298429

Timeline
When cardiac arrest occurs, cardiopulmonary resuscitation (CPR) must be started within two minutes. Effective CPR, if started immediately with a witnessed arrest can have positive outcomes.

If CPR is delayed more than three minutes, global cerebral ischemia—the lack of blood flow to the entire brain—can lead to brain injury that gets progressively worse.3


By nine minutes, severe and permanent brain damage is likely. After 10 minutes, the chances of survival are low.

Even if a person is resuscitated, eight out of every 10 will be in a coma and sustain some level of brain damage. Simply put, the longer the brain is deprived of oxygen, the worse the damage will be.4

Hope this isn't the case but I think it's that if they announce a huge plan and schedule change and he dies they're going to have to start from step 1 again and that's just going to cause more drama. I bet they have some plans at this point depending on what happens. But you're right there's a chance this stays in limbo for a while too and then they're in a tough spot.

Would you be shocked if [made up scenario]

I guess not.

WOW... so what you're saying is.... [more made up stuff]

No.

WELL THERE YOU HAVE IT FOLKS!

:facepalm:

^Randos throwing BS at the wall when they freely admit they have no actual information to report. No need to repost it.

Not in the media anyway. The owners affected negatively will do it behind closed doors though.

I agree. We're 2-2 in AFCCG at home. Hardly a fortress. I'm more concerned with the BYE week. How about a compromise where we get the BYE but Buffalo gets the home field advantage. The Bengals get nothing because they're so infallible that they can win anywhere like in 2022. The Ravens were not winning the division anyway so **** them.

Imagine being a ref having to do that game. Regardless of what you believe about rigging, refs are human beings and remaining objective in that environment would be very challenging.

NFL just said that the game won't be resumed this week, per ESPN.

Yes, from the sounds of it, they got to him quickly but we just don't know yet.

My prediction: Give it a couple days. Either Hamlin recovers and the Bills play, or he doesn't and they take a team vote and decide that playing is what he would have wanted (which is true).

No way players want to just sit imo. They'd rather play and take their mind off it for a while.

Eh, I suspect we're overthinking this a lot. Would it suck if somehow we end up losing the 1 seed because of this? Sure. But the reality is that the Bills very well might have won the game last night anyway. Same for every other team with a rooting interest last night. No team would have definitively benefitted from the game last night - they all just had a CHANCE of benefitting from it. Or equally, a chance of being screwed by it.

Obviously, I would love for the Chiefs to get the 1 seed, and it would suck if we don't. But much like the refs, external shit sometimes happens. If we wanted to avoid this scenario, we shouldn't have laid down against the Colts.

Explain this. Why?

If the Bills aren't doing midweek team activities like they normally would, they're going to pressure the league not to have to play this weekend, and the situation just gets worse.

Even though we have/had nothing to do with any decisions, but it seems we are the biggest benefactor of this whole situation.

Obv everyone is rooting for Hamlin. But the Bills are going to have to move on from this. They can’t hold up an entire industry over this matter. If they don’t want to play that’s fine - forfeit you games and forfeit your paychecks for the missed time.

That’s how all of us have to deal with life. Our company gives 3 days bereavement. And that’s for death of a family member, not the hospitalization of a co worker

And honestly, it sucks.

So. Much. Virtue Signaling.

Jesus - why not just ask the Bengals and Patriots to both forfeit? And then we'll play one-handed to signify the mental handicaps the Bills are dealing with right now. Y'know, as a showing of solidarity.

The race to be the 'most compassionate' here is just cracking me up.

This has become like watching politicians argue over who hates child predators more. Girls - you're all pretty.

Nobody's really super stoked about Damar Hamlin collapsing on a football field. I think we're all in agreement on that. Can we, y'know, actually PLAY the games at some point instead of just trying to one-up each other's displays of concern? Lord.

It isn't just the Chiefs that could be negatively affected by such a decision. The Ravens are very much still in the AFC North division race. There's a guaranteed home playoff game (worth a ton to any owner) at stake with whatever decision is made here.