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Hammock Parties 03-19-2023 12:55 AM

Chiefs trade their 1st for for Tunsil, 4th for Hopkins. It all goes down on draft day.

You heard it here first, folks.

jd1020 03-19-2023 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16864171)
I have significant doubt that "Taylor to LT" is anything but a well-crafted illusion. If KC doesn't trade for Tunsil, they are probably moving up in the first. There's no way on Earth that the Chiefs do something like that IMO.

There's no way the Chiefs move a RT to LT? Interesting theory.

The Chiefs just gave more money to a RT than their previous LT signed for that they moved from RT.

ThyKingdomCome15 03-19-2023 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16864171)
I have significant doubt that "Taylor to LT" is anything but a well-crafted illusion. If KC doesn't trade for Tunsil, they are probably moving up in the first. There's no way on Earth that the Chiefs do something like that IMO.

They basically did do that with Orlando though. Taylor is a way better athlete than him seems fully comfortable with the switch. They are paying him LT money.

kccrow 03-19-2023 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16864181)
There's no way the Chiefs move a RT to LT? Interesting theory.

The Chiefs just gave more money to a RT than their previous LT signed for that they moved from RT.

Money is irrelevant. Top-tier RT salaries are approaching LT money. Is what it is.

The Chiefs didn't move Orlando from RT to LT, the Ravens did that. The Chiefs were clearly not satisfied with Orlando's performance this year and they rightly shouldn't have been. It's exclusive from the other situation where Wylie was an even bigger bag of dicks, he just so happened to cost substantially less.

Taylor has played a whopping 2 career collegiate games at LT. Him playing LT is a fallback plan, not THE plan. I'm confident of that. Taylor made that abundantly clear in his presser.

jd1020 03-19-2023 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16864183)
The Chiefs didn't move Orlando from RT to LT, the Ravens did that.

Give me a ****ing break. He subbed in for half a season after their starting LT went down with a season ending injury and then they traded him. The Ravens actually moved him to RT after he played LT in college.

Balto 03-19-2023 01:50 AM

Another crazy thought! We all expect Veach to get us Hopkins or OBJ which for example, Hopkins will cost about $19M. So getting Tunsil + Hopkins is just not gonna happen.

How about:

Texans get:
#31
2024 1st
2025 1st
CEH

Chiefs get:
#12
Tunsil


With the #12 pick we take 1 of the top two WRs, Quentin Johnston or Jaxon.

So now we have the best OL in the NFL plus a young stud and cheap WR to pair with our other guys.

Value is actually spot on if you look at the numbers!

kccrow 03-19-2023 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16864185)
Give me a ****ing break. He subbed in for half a season after their starting LT went down with a season ending injury and then they traded him. The Ravens actually moved him to RT after he played LT in college.

And after playing LT he didn't want to move back to RT, thus prompting the trade. I wasn't wrong, man. KC kept him at LT. That doesn't mean Taylor is coming here to play LT. He might play LT, but it was clear that wasn't guaranteed to him. He's LT in the event they don't secure a better option at LT.

AussieChiefsFan 03-19-2023 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balto (Post 16864187)
Another crazy thought! We all expect Veach to get us Hopkins or OBJ which for example, Hopkins will cost about $19M. So getting Tunsil + Hopkins is just not gonna happen.

How about:

Texans get:
#31
2024 1st
2025 1st
CEH

Chiefs get:
#12
Tunsil


With the #12 pick we take 1 of the top two WRs, Quentin Johnston or Jaxon.

So now we have the best OL in the NFL plus a young stud and cheap WR to pair with our other guys.

Value is actually spot on if you look at the numbers!

As nice as that would be I don't think CEH adds much to the trade.

Couch-Potato 03-19-2023 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balto (Post 16864187)
Another crazy thought! We all expect Veach to get us Hopkins or OBJ which for example, Hopkins will cost about $19M. So getting Tunsil + Hopkins is just not gonna happen.

How about:

Texans get:
#31
2024 1st
2025 1st
CEH

Chiefs get:
#12
Tunsil


With the #12 pick we take 1 of the top two WRs, Quentin Johnston or Jaxon.

So now we have the best OL in the NFL plus a young stud and cheap WR to pair with our other guys.

Value is actually spot on if you look at the numbers!

I think #12 is too high for any of these WR's, I'd say let's pray that DT J. Carter, DE M. Murphy, or DE. T. Wilson falls to #12.

Then move this year's 3rd + MVS for D. Hopkins, and restructure CJ to make the money work.

OT Tunsil
WR Hopkins
DL J Carter, T Wilson, or M. Murphy
+
7 Draft picks between rounds 4-7

lol now there's a draft plan!

Chief3188 03-19-2023 07:54 AM

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1637450940067332103

TRR 03-19-2023 07:55 AM

Tunsil just signed a 3 year, $75 million dollar deal with the Texans. They also offloaded Cooks to Dallas…

nychief 03-19-2023 07:55 AM

He signed an extension 3 years 70 millions... highest paid LT in the game again.


Texans also traded cooks to the Boys for 6 and 5.

MahomesMagic 03-19-2023 07:56 AM

I'll embed.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Per Saint Omni, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Texans</a> star LT Laremy Tunsil is once again the highest-paid tackle in NFL history, securing a 3-year deal worth $75M with $50M fully guaranteed and $60M in total guarantees. The blindside protector does a true reset on the market. Tunsil represented himself. <a href="https://t.co/pEC68BRPSu">pic.twitter.com/pEC68BRPSu</a></p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1637450940067332103?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 19, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

AussieChiefsFan 03-19-2023 07:57 AM

Anticlimactic but not surprising. Texans would've been crazy to let him go.

Sure-Oz 03-19-2023 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nychief (Post 16864242)
He signed an extension 3 years 70 millions... highest paid LT in the game again.





Texans also traded cooks to the Boys for 6 and 5.

Gotta think it has to be Dhop or Beckham coming soon to the Chiefs

smithandrew051 03-19-2023 07:58 AM

Never wanted him anyway.

Take my word for it. No need to check my previous posts on the subject.

Dude sucks anyway.

jd1020 03-19-2023 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 16864247)
Gotta think it has to be Dhop or Beckham coming soon to the Chiefs

Or the Chiefs with their $14M in cap space are done looking at guys with $30M cap hits.

smithandrew051 03-19-2023 08:00 AM

I assume that means Dallas is out on OBJ now?

BigRedChief 03-19-2023 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16864178)
Chiefs trade their 1st for for Tunsil, 4th for Hopkins. It all goes down on draft day.

You heard it here first, folks.

:doh!:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balto (Post 16864187)
Another crazy thought! We all expect Veach to get us Hopkins or OBJ which for example, Hopkins will cost about $19M. So getting Tunsil + Hopkins is just not gonna happen.

How about:

Texans get:
#31
2024 1st
2025 1st
CEH

Chiefs get:
#12
Tunsil


With the #12 pick we take 1 of the top two WRs, Quentin Johnston or Jaxon.

So now we have the best OL in the NFL plus a young stud and cheap WR to pair with our other guys.

Value is actually spot on if you look at the numbers!

I'm glad you are not our GM. Mortgaged our future like no other GM ever has. Wasted Mahomes prime years. Good plan. :rolleyes:

MahomesMagic 03-19-2023 08:07 AM

I'd rather get Mahomes another weapon.

We have elite G-C-G which is perfect match to awareness, mobility of Mahomes.

Just don't be dog shit.

BryanBusby 03-19-2023 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan (Post 16864246)
Anticlimactic but not surprising. Texans would've been crazy to let him go.

If you aak that dipshit TW, the Texans were just gonna wheel and deal him because they somehow didn't just know Watson would eventually start raping.

FlaChief58 03-19-2023 08:56 AM

He resigned with the texans 3 for 75

Balto 03-19-2023 08:56 AM

I wonder if Veach had been trying to get both Tunsil and Cooks.

Chief Roundup 03-19-2023 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16864178)
Chiefs trade their 1st for for Tunsil, 4th for Hopkins. It all goes down on draft day.



You heard it here first, folks.

The 4th for Hopkins happen first and they package him with our pick for Tunsil sending Hopkins back to the Texans. ROFL

staylor26 03-19-2023 09:46 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Per Saint Omni, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Texans</a> star LT Laremy Tunsil is once again the highest-paid tackle in NFL history, securing a 3-year deal worth $75M with $50M fully guaranteed and $60M in total guarantees. The blindside protector does a true reset on the market. Tunsil represented himself. <a href="https://t.co/pEC68BRPSu">pic.twitter.com/pEC68BRPSu</a></p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1637450940067332103?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 19, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

mlyonsd 03-19-2023 10:25 AM

I knew it was a pipe dream but was hoping varch would pull a rabbit out of his butt

Marcellus 03-19-2023 10:29 AM

Tunsil got the deal OBJ thought he was going to get......................

Dunerdr 03-19-2023 10:31 AM

I can’t imagine paying this bum that kind of money! You couldn’t give me picks to make him the left tackle of my favorite team, the Kansas City Chiefs!

smithandrew051 03-19-2023 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 16864408)
I can’t imagine paying this bum that kind of money! You couldn’t give me picks to make him the left tackle of my favorite team, the Kansas City Chiefs!

Ever since we didn’t get him, I’ve noticed that he ****ing sucks

smithandrew051 03-19-2023 10:33 AM

The film study that I’ve put in over the last two and a half hours has been eye opening to day the least

BigRedChief 03-19-2023 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 16864408)
I can’t imagine paying this bum that kind of money! You couldn’t give me picks to make him the left tackle of my favorite team, the Kansas City Chiefs!

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16864409)
Ever since we didn’t get him, I’ve noticed that he ****ing sucks

I know right. :)

Reerun_KC 03-19-2023 10:39 AM

So a whole lot of drama for nothing?

The Franchise 03-19-2023 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 16864422)
So a whole lot of drama for nothing?

What is….what your Mom said when you were born.

Skyy God 03-19-2023 10:49 AM

I’m glad this stupid pipe dream is over.

Now all we need is for Nuk to get traded to wherever.

FloridaMan88 03-19-2023 10:51 AM

Tunsil is going to give guys like OBJ and Lamar false optimism with serving as their own agent.

PHOG 03-19-2023 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16864364)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Per Saint Omni, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Texans</a> star LT Laremy Tunsil is once again the highest-paid tackle in NFL history, securing a 3-year deal worth $75M with $50M fully guaranteed and $60M in total guarantees. The blindside protector does a true reset on the market. Tunsil represented himself. <a href="https://t.co/pEC68BRPSu">pic.twitter.com/pEC68BRPSu</a></p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1637450940067332103?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 19, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That should've been me!

https://media3.giphy.com/media/1xonT...200w.webp&ct=g

RunKC 03-19-2023 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16864364)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Per Saint Omni, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Texans</a> star LT Laremy Tunsil is once again the highest-paid tackle in NFL history, securing a 3-year deal worth $75M with $50M fully guaranteed and $60M in total guarantees. The blindside protector does a true reset on the market. Tunsil represented himself. <a href="https://t.co/pEC68BRPSu">pic.twitter.com/pEC68BRPSu</a></p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1637450940067332103?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 19, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Orlando Brown Jr demanded this type of deal per Pro Football Talk and Veach told him to **** off.

Then he gets a young capable Tackle with the right traits for 80% of the cost of the highest paid guy.

Goddam I love Brett Veach

Megatron96 03-19-2023 11:48 AM

Never seemed very likely that Tunsil would be traded, but it was interesting to think about for a while. Glad Veach didn't get sucked into overpaying for Tunsil at the end of the day. Too bad Tunsil will never win a SB.

Skyy God 03-19-2023 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16864440)
Orlando Brown Jr demanded this type of deal per Pro Football Talk and Veach told him to **** off.

Then he gets a young capable Tackle with the right traits for 80% of the cost of the highest paid guy.

Goddam I love Brett Veach

He’s clearly learned his lesson about trading high picks for players demanding top of market contracts.

BossChief 03-19-2023 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 16864493)
He’s clearly learned his lesson about trading high picks for players demanding top of market contracts.

Possibly. There were multiple reports that Veach was actively trying to trade for him this offseason snd that Veach was actively trying to trade for AJ Brown last offseason.

I think he learned that he needs to go into negotiations with a firm line that he won’t cross.

We saw it with Silverback, AJ and now Tunsil.

Pitt Gorilla 03-19-2023 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 16864422)
So a whole lot of drama for nothing?

Nobody in their right mind thought he was coming to KC.

Chief Pagan 03-19-2023 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 16864558)
Nobody in their right mind thought he was coming to KC.

True, but a lot of people were very convinced that KC was resigning Brown and not too many saw Taylor...

Pitt Gorilla 03-19-2023 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 16864562)
True, but a lot of people were very convinced that KC was resigning Brown and not too many saw Taylor...

Neither Brown nor Taylor required giving up premium picks.

Megatron96 03-19-2023 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 16864565)
Neither Brown nor Taylor required giving up premium picks.

Yeah, he likely would've required a 1st just to ante up then who knows? But probably multiple picks to close the deal, and no way Veach would've gone there.

chiefforlife 03-19-2023 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16864171)
I have significant doubt that "Taylor to LT" is anything but a well-crafted illusion. If KC doesn't trade for Tunsil, they are probably moving up in the first. There's no way on Earth that the Chiefs do something like that IMO.

Im kind of hoping that this is the plan, to be honest. It is the best way to put the BEST O line in front of Patrick.

You can have the highest paid RT if your LT is on a rookie deal.

Yeah we have a rookie at LT but the rest of the line is amazing, leaving us with only one questionable spot, LT.

I think Taylor can make the switch if necessary but then we have two questionable spots, both Tackles. Not ideal, basically what we had last year but with more upside.

I dont like that we dont get a 1st round edge in this scenario but given it solves the O line for years, Id take it and be happy.

ForeverIowan 03-19-2023 01:29 PM

I'm fine with it. Would have taken a ton of high draft picks and would have killed our cap situation for the next several years. All in on grabbing OBJ or Hopkins and making a huge trade up in the draft for our franchise left tackle

ThyKingdomCome15 03-19-2023 01:59 PM

It was a fun conversation and one worth entertaining. The smoke was real, Veach scoped it out. After signing Taylor there was no way we were going to trade for Tunsil. I believe Taylor was Plan C after Orlando and Tunsil. Veach works fast.

In the end we saved a lot of money and draft capitol by not moving on Tunsil.

kccrow 03-19-2023 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 16864585)
Im kind of hoping that this is the plan, to be honest. It is the best way to put the BEST O line in front of Patrick.

You can have the highest paid RT if your LT is on a rookie deal.

Yeah we have a rookie at LT but the rest of the line is amazing, leaving us with only one questionable spot, LT.

I think Taylor can make the switch if necessary but then we have two questionable spots, both Tackles. Not ideal, basically what we had last year but with more upside.

I dont like that we dont get a 1st round edge in this scenario but given it solves the O line for years, Id take it and be happy.

After signing Omenihu, the need at ER is much less than it was. We need another player at least but not necessarily an immediate starter. I don't know that the Chiefs will go that way in the 1st even if they don't trade up for an OT or WR.

As for trading up, what I've been seeing is that people are enamored with "don't trade multiple 1s" but then the reality is we're 1 pick removed from saying we're giving up multiple 2's. It's not like we're giving up two top-15 picks anymore. If Veach wants it, he should go up and get it.

There has been communication with Houston, so I'm guessing they also discussed the cost to move to #12...

I'd guess it's:
#1-31, #2-63, #3-95, #6-207, 2024-1
for
#1-12, #3-73

I'd do that for Broderick Jones.

With 73, you could move back up into the 60's for a 4th and high 6th probably. So, if there's a guy you feel like you're missing out on then go back up and get him. We have a lot of picks, and not a lot of holes.

If you can fix LT for 5 years and have RT locked down with Taylor for 4... Man, that's pretty good.

I won't pound the table for it to happen, but it's something that would make some sense to me. If not, I have other thoughts at 31.

Balto 03-19-2023 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16864499)
Possibly. There were multiple reports that Veach was actively trying to trade for him this offseason snd that Veach was actively trying to trade for AJ Brown last offseason.

I think he learned that he needs to go into negotiations with a firm line that he won’t cross.

We saw it with Silverback, AJ and now Tunsil.

Reports are that Veach actually offered more than the 9ers did for Silverback but he picked to stay in the bay.

Pitt Gorilla 03-19-2023 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16864910)
After signing Omenihu, the need at ER is much less than it was. We need another player at least but not necessarily an immediate starter. I don't know that the Chiefs will go that way in the 1st even if they don't trade up for an OT or WR.

As for trading up, what I've been seeing is that people are enamored with "don't trade multiple 1s" but then the reality is we're 1 pick removed from saying we're giving up multiple 2's. It's not like we're giving up two top-15 picks anymore. If Veach wants it, he should go up and get it.

There has been communication with Houston, so I'm guessing they also discussed the cost to move to #12...

I'd guess it's:
#1-31, #2-63, #3-95, #6-207, 2024-1
for
#1-12, #3-73

I'd do that for Broderick Jones.

With 73, you could move back up into the 60's for a 4th and high 6th probably. So, if there's a guy you feel like you're missing out on then go back up and get him. We have a lot of picks, and not a lot of holes.

If you can fix LT for 5 years and have RT locked down with Taylor for 4... Man, that's pretty good.

I won't pound the table for it to happen, but it's something that would make some sense to me. If not, I have other thoughts at 31.

Yikes. Hard pass for me.

cripple creek 03-19-2023 04:31 PM

nfl.com has him having signed a 3 year extension w houston

IowaHawkeyeChief 03-19-2023 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balto (Post 16864920)
Reports are that Veach actually offered more than the 9ers did for Silverback but he picked to stay in the bay and not win a ring.

FYP

chiefzilla1501 03-19-2023 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 16864653)
It was a fun conversation and one worth entertaining. The smoke was real, Veach scoped it out. After signing Taylor there was no way we were going to trade for Tunsil. I believe Taylor was Plan C after Orlando and Tunsil. Veach works fast.

In the end we saved a lot of money and draft capitol by not moving on Tunsil.

I really think the plan with Taylor was to bring in a guy who could play left or right tackle, which gives you the flexibility to find a left or right tackle via free agency or draft. It means you still shoot for a tunsil but no need to panic. It also means you can draft a RT or LT… which ever feels like better value

dlphg9 03-19-2023 07:21 PM

Taylor is playing LT. They're not gonna put a rookie in at LT. Tunsil was literally never gonna happen. Plus the Chiefs aren't setting the ****ing market at RT. That's ridiculous.


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