That's not good. I don't appreciate this.

SO!! If Jones becomes our 2024 version of Tyreek do we keep Sneed?

Probably best not to try to interpret a Twitter troll through his trolling tweets.

Keep Sneed, let his dumbass agents send him to Carolina. Use $ to fill out the rest of the positions.

the Ravens DT got like 75% of his entire salary guaranteed. Dont be fooled by average yearly contract. it is guarantees that tell the true story.

Translation: I know teams will overpay me and you’re running out of time to match it.

Chris might **** around and find out Veach doesn’t need you. Team isn’t gonna collapse without you bud

What will happen is what I said would happen. Jones walks, Sneed plays on the tag.

and as I said before, Wayna was the 3rd tackle taken after pick 27 and one of the 3 was drafted as a guard. If we traded up we probably don't have Rice.

yea for Jones to sniff the SuperBowl again...

No more “watching” this… if he returns, great… and if not the Chiefs will be fine.

The watch is over.

Most epic of troll jobs.

Yep, when you are winning Superbowls it becomes less about individual players, except for Mahomes, and more about the team. I hope Chris looks at Tyreek and stays for a good contract, instead of leaving for a ridiculous contract.

The Chiefs countered Tyreek leaving by loading up on defense. They could pretty easily flip table and load up on offense. The defense should still be top 10 assuming Sneed is coming back.

Veach could also go full nuclear and trade Sneed after letting Jones walk and totally rely on his high level drafting ability.

Veach is right in his element...

I'm all for going all out wizard. Let these guys be greedy on another team. This in truth is the Patriot way. Hate to say it.

Maybe but again he’s got a HOF resume already.

5X all pro
5X pro bowler
3 time champ
Regarded as top 2 DT for last 5 years

His legacy is set. His odds of getting in Canton at some point are high. Wouldn’t be surprised to see him get a major cash out as the end starts coming

Difference is Tyreek has one ring to Jones' three rings. Would you rather have a chance at a fourth ring or $11 million dollars?

This is brutal.

Well...yeah, he's not as good as Chris Jones lol.

$5.5m after taxes and some of the commercial money and exposure he gets now would decrease. I would rather play for a team that would compete every year, and truly set my legacy. If Jones leaves to a competitor, or even an NFC team, his legacy won't be the same as if he stayed. If he finishes his career in KC, their will be 95 Jerseys being worn for the next 25 years.

LMAO Legacy for who? He'll still be a top contributor on 4 Superbowl teams with 3 wins and be a hall of famer and be one of the best DTs of his generation. His legacy will be just fine.

This is just a guilt trip into getting guys to take millions of dollars less than they are worth.

And people still wear Jamaal Charles jerseys and he finished his career with the Broncos and Jaguars. They'll still wear a superbowl winning players jersey 25 years from now.

I agree completely but when these agents are in these guys' ears every day things can change. It's pretty rare a guy like TJ Watt walks into the office himself and works it out with the owner.

Jones is going to let the phones ring on Monday. You can bet that much.

Seems to me that Chris Jones just wants the most money possible. In the end, these dudes are mostly all the same in that regard. The Chiefs aren’t going to pay him what he wants is my guess and he’ll get some crazy deal from some shit team. Have fun, Chris!

So you are saying his legacy would be the same if he left as if he finished his career out in KC? You are saying that he most likely won't have more opportunity for additional income with commercials/exposure playing for the Chiefs? It's not a ****ing guilt trip. I could care less if he goes or stays as Veach is going to do what's best for the Chiefs. My point is for $5 or $6 million less after taxes, and the likelihood of having more additional income playing for the Chiefs, it's not much different.

I go to every ****ing home game and do you know how many Jamaal Charles jerseys I see? LMAO

Raiders will be dumb enough to give him 32-35 million till he’s 34 just to torque us and help with the Mahomes Rules. It’ll work out about as well as Sapp did.

If Monday comes and no deal, it's probably over. Veach isn't going to be left holding the bag and will jump on his alternatives on Monday and has most likely shared that with the Jersey boys.

He can have commercials anywhere. Unless you think the commercials he's done in KC can offset the money he'll make elsewhere in contract. Do you think directv is paying millions of dollars for that one as spot he has LMAO?

And i see Charles jerseys at Arrowhead. I've even worn mine to games. I've also seen Derrick Johnson jerseys. Tony Gonzalez jerseys. Vast majority of people don't just throw away their jerseys just because a player goes on another team. I'm guessing it will be just like that for the player who was a key part in three Superbowl wins.

There's an old saying and I'm not sure where it comes from but it goes like this...

It's better to part with a player a year early than a year late. That's where we are with Chris.

Historically Veach sets a number and sticks to it. I think that's where we are here. It's just time.

Jones is 100% about money or he wouldn’t have risked it all against the Chargers for a sack. He has his rings and cares about proving a point and that’s fine. Prove it somewhere else. The Chiefs aren’t a team that can afford to do it.

Stick to the plan for the longterm window. Let him walk and trade Sneed.

LMAO... We agree, Jones is probably about the money, but to say he won't be treated differently if he goes to a competitor for 3-4 years is ridiculous. He will always be appreciated, but it won't be the same as if he stayed, not even close.
If he stays and they win even 1 more Superbowl over his tenure, he would be on the Chiefs Mt. Rushmore. I get it, that may not be important to him if it's all about the bag. We will find out in the next 48-72 hours.

Meh. Good for him. He should get his final pay day.

The Chiefs will be fine.

Say hi to Tyreek in Cancun.

At this point…I’m in the mindset to let Jones walk and trade Sneed.

The smart long term play assuming decent comp for Sneed

Agreed.

Just don’t let Chris Jones hold up another offseason like last year.

It honestly needs to be the plan. Free up money to fill some holes and maybe lock up a guy 2 and gain draft capital. I have faith in Williams, Watson, and Spags’ ability to scheme a defense up without both of them.

100% agree. I'm just tired of all the drama that comes with Jones and I don't want to be left cash-strapped by giving him a massive contract. I would actually be excited to see how Veach uses the money and possible draft pick(s) from Sneed to rebuild the Chiefs for next season. Whatever happens Veach has a plan I'm sure.

Jones will walk, but will end up back in KC when nobody pays him what he is demanding.

I dont think veach waits around with 30 million bucks available.

I think if we make it to Monday without an extension, he gone.


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What? He’ll walk AND end up in KC?

I don’t share your optimism on that. Once he hits the market someone like the Raiders, Bengals, or Texans will pay him more than the Chiefs want to.

He will test FA and if nobody gets stupid with a 33m aav type deal mostly guaranteed, Veach will match a deal and structure it to where it makes sense for both sides.

Similar to how the negotiations went with Silverback and the 49ers.

This is all part of the process of CJ95 maxing his earning potential while wanting to stay in KC.

The Chris Jones Watch:
His Right Hand is the Hours
His Left Hand is the Minutes
His Dick is the Seconds

He doesn’t need to sit on anything. KC isn’t going to be making a big first wave of FA type signing and the deal would structure with a low first year cap hit.

Now of Sneed signs a long extension…Jones is gone…but I see us trading Sneed and getting a deal done with CJ once he knows his true open market value.

Veach did just that last year with Taylor. If Veach thinks Jones is gone he is not going to want to wait to secure his targets because the team is not likely to be able to address DT in the draft.

At present, all things considered, would it be easier to tag-and-trade Jones or Snead? Also, which player nets the bigger return in a trade? (Don’t forget to consider things like possible health concerns, age, current market for player position, required salary to sign, etc.)

I think the window to tag players is closed

Nonsense.

See:
Honey badger


Went to the market, and was replaced instantly, long before he found a landing spot.

Extra money was spent elsewhere in the meantime.


Chris isn’t going to neuter two off seasons in a row.


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After dancing this dance for 2 years, both sides knowing where they stand, and let’s not be naive both sides know the offers that await on the market. I think that’s optimistic to put it mildly.

Jones will have his new team about 5 minutes after the tampering period starts

I don’t see any way Veach waits around for Chris. This has been going on for the better part of a year.

Chris knows what Veach’s line in. Chris and Veach both know what offers are out there through talk at the combine.

Waiting on Chris and missing out on other quality players would be foolish, especially if Chris ends up not working out and Veach doesn’t sign anybody he wants bc he waited for Chris

Yeah, and of course the agents have already been talking to other teams. They know what other teams will pay.

Do the Katz brothers represent any other player in the NFL? Or are they like OBJ's idiot n00b agent who sucks at his job?

Let’s be honest with the reality here: the Katz brothers received verbal offers from other teams in Indy and Veach is trying to find a way to get close to them to keep him. If it doesn’t get done by Sunday night then he’s gone.

There is no waiting around for offers to match. They’ve known the offers for over a week.

Jones and a bunch of fodder

https://fanspo.com/nfl/agents/jason-katz/46867

Yeah, this is it.

If we don’t have an announcement by tomorrow night, it’s over … unless some team won’t pay him.

And there are enough teams with money and desperation to give Aaron Donald money or better if he gets to the market.

That’s fine. Thanks for best years of your career and the help winning Super Bowls, Chris. Enjoy the money and see you at the end of your career. And maybe when you’re walking out of Arrowhead after KC sends your team’s ass home in the playoffs.

Jones knows he will get what he wants in FA. He the biggest name in FA and he knows it's his last chance to get big money. He has 3 rings and that's a secondary goal. We cant throw the bank at him. My guess is Houston or Indy. They have cheap QBs and a lot of cap space.

Agreed. Would love to keep Jones, but I get it if he leaves to the highest bidder.

Chris Jones better hope that those verbal offers he’s using as leverage actually follow through.

I’m sure when Jones & Sneed move to other teams, the media will say the Chiefs are dead and buried without those guys. Hopefully the team can prove those doubters wrong.

He might get more commercials if he leaves and is outside the shadow of Mahomes and Kelce. Plus you are correct on the jerseys as I still have an old DJ jersey as well as a Berry one. Never gonna get rid of them as I paid good money for them. Plus the jerseys he doesn’t sell here will get sold for his new team.

Jones will get his bag, unfortunately he’s not coming back.
Sneed will be traded shortly thereafter.

I don't want him to go, but neither am I begging for him to stay.

You have your rings and you have your legacy, so go find your bag elsewhere if our offer isn't good enough. We'll always appreciate the time and play you gave us.

It’s for the best long term.

Can’t let the heart/emotions force you to overpay for a player… even of Chris Jones’-caliber.

Jones affected the shopping we were able to do last year. I doubt Veach allows that again.

I expect something will be reached and announced simultaneously with a Sneed trade. It would be consequential, but not the end of the dynasty, if he chose to move on, but the Chiefs organization will find a way to adapt. Veach will make sure he presents his best offer, and if that comes up short, so be it.

They will. Talking heads need to have something to talk about in the offseason. One and only one player is indispensable and deserves market rate and he is still on this team.

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This

Assuming this is how it goes, props to Veach for not blinking.

Excited to see what moves we make next week and in the draft.

I think he ends up in Florida. He spends his offseason in Miami every year and loves it there. Plus no income tax.

I’ll bet it’s the Dolphins, Bucs or Jags.

Really tired of this circus.

Chris has a chance to be a hall of famer and a legend. If he wants to throw that away over what will likely amount to a few million then goodbye.

I have full confidence that Veach will do whatever is best for the organization.

The Dolphins can't even afford Wilkins. How the **** do you expect them to afford I'm gonna reset the market CJ?

They worked under Drew Rosenhaus for several years and negotiated his last two deals with the Chiefs. Plenty more experience than the OBJ agent.

I think Dallas will take a run at him. Jones lined up next to Parsons??

Dallas, Houston, or Chicago.

I could see him going to the Lions.

Calm down Rita. He loves trolling on the socials and this is a great opportunity to do so. Isn't it funny how easy it is for you to tell someone to walk away from millions of dollars? (It's rhetorical, just in case that wasn't clear)

He’s gonna be a HOF player regardless of whether he plays here or for another team.

Cut every player left over from SB 54.

Oh....wait. Not that one guy.

I think he’s borderline at the moment.

Rings will play a huge role when examining his case. He’s not getting any more of those if he leaves here.

It’s going to be close for him. He’s not a slam dunk yet like Tyreek.

Becoming less and less optimistic every day.

I've been saying since last year, that's what this is really all about. This is probably Jones' last big contract, the Katz Bros need to make a splash here to attract more clients or they're going to go out of business.

Yeah totally, 3 rings might not cut it LMAO LMAO LMAO

What?

Why is Tyreek a slam dunk and Jones isn’t?