Eric Longenhagen's pick for the Cardinals at seventh overall.

7. St. Louis Cardinals
Pick: Bryce Rainer, SS, Harvard Westlake (CA)
In this scenario, JJ Wetherholt is just sitting there, which might be too tempting for the Cardinals to pass up. Names people have put with St. Louis include Nick Kurtz, Chase Burns (does he have a home between pick no. 3 and here?), and Rainer. Recall that Masyn Winn was also a two-way prospect with a huge arm and that has worked out. I don’t think Konnor Griffin is in play here at all.

Ah Ok. The way the bullpen is going right now it wouldn't have mattered anyway.

Why would they draft a SS when we have a rookie of the year contender already in that spot and batting lead off? That doesnt seem to be a good pick for us.

You take Rainer hoping the power plays and you worry about the position if it becomes a factor when he's ready. A shortstop has the athleticism to play anywhere else.

Look at San Diego's Jackson Merrill. He came up as a shortstop. He got moved to center fielder for his MLB debut. He's on the all-star team as a rookie CF.

Because you never ever ever draft for need in the MLB draft.

A premier player with plus tools plays anywhere. No such thing as too many good hitters.

I'd still take Wetherholt in that scenario, though.

Higher risk, but more star potential. You CANNOT come out of this draft, your first time in the top 10 in years, with someone that can't potentially be a cornerstone player.

If you're looking at floor, defensive versatility or your internal depth charts when you're making this pick, you're doing it wrong.

You take the guy that has the best chance of being a superstar and hang any other considerations.

I agree. Wetherholt compares favorably to Travis Bazzana with his hit tool. One can argue that Wetherholt is better than Bazzana because I can see Wetherholt as a difference maker with the glove at 3B, whereas Bazzana looks locked in as a 2B.

Thanks gentlemen!:thumb:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We talked about this a lot today. I am willing to buy everyone’s Jordan Walker stock they’re selling. I’m still a believer.<br><br>I also think the Cardinals are getting far too much criticism on this. <a href="https://t.co/OdlUtNiutT">https://t.co/OdlUtNiutT</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Kiley (@BKSportsTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/BKSportsTalk/status/1811494350888542578?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 11, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Age is definitely still on Walker's side. The worrisome part is that he has subpar numbers in Triple-A and Triple-A pitching is considered around baseball circles a considerable step down from MLB pitching. Like the pitching quality has never been further apart than the majors.

Barring a hitting tear from Walker, I don't see him coming back up until September.

Jordan Walker is one of the few things the Cardinals have gotten right.

He’s not a big leaguer right now. At all. And letting him continue to hit 50% of his balls into the dirt would’ve been an insane waste.

They’ve done all they can do. The rest is on Walker. He can grow up and earn his way to St. Louis (or out of St. Louis through reviving his trade value) or he can languish away in Memphis and then ride the bench for 4 years.

The Cardinals aren’t remotely to blame for Walker. His failings are on him.

the Cardinals will still have 5 years of control when he gets to the show, right?

Can we blame them anyway?

MLB Pipeline's final draft predictions for the Cardinals at 7.

7. Cardinals
Callis: Hagen Smith, LHP, Arkansas (No. 5)
If the Guardians pass on Wetherholt, he could get all the way to No. 7 and be the best-case scenario for the Cardinals. Smith and Burns both would be attractive to St. Louis, which also has interest in Rainer and maybe Kurtz.

Mayo: Jac Caglianone, 1B,/LHP, Florida (No. 3)
It didn’t seem possible that Caglianone would get to this part of the top 10, but here we are. The Cardinals could go with Hagen Smith if they opt for an arm instead.

With as long as he spent in Memphis last year, they might still have 6.

They forced a guy who wasn’t ready for big league pitching to play AND make a position change.

Yet you still lick this organization's taint

I think Mozeliak and DeWitt suck ass, but some of the criticism they have gotten has been unjustified.

18 months ago.

And he had a solid august/September last season afterward. I don’t think that’s something you can still hold against the team. 2023 was rocky but with the way it ended, 2024 was a clean slate for both sides.

The Cardinals learned from 2023 (at least as it relates to Walker) and Walker didn’t.

Bullshit

it makes up for the criticisms they've dodged for a decade by being in a soft media market and riding the coattails of Luhnow and Shildt.

No matter how much you dislike John Mozeliak, you don't dislike him enough. He's a completely incompetent piece of shit.

I'm disinclined to weep for him too much. He should've been fired 5 years ago.

He had 149 days of service time coming into 2024, according to fangraphs. Its 172 days for a full year, so he needs 23 days this year to break a full year. Cardinals opened on April 4 and sent him down on the 24th. So he still needs 3 days, if I'm not missing something.

I have to imagine he'll be traded long before he reaches 6 years of service time, probably before he even reaches 1 year. If he continues to suck in AAA he's going to start the year there next year and thats going to trigger his final option. Then his trade value will plummet, because if he still doesnt get it he'll have to either be on the MLB roster or waived and you arent going to waive a prospect with that potential before you trade him. We aren't talking about Estevan Florial here.

That's by fair and away the biggest mistake the organization made in bringing him north in 2023 - they started burning through his option years.

It was just so dumb. But developmentally, it shouldn't STILL matter. Because again - he got to even footing by the last half of the season last year. He'd found some form to build on.

And instead regressed. Badly. To the point that he's not even really an asset in AAA right now. And the organization isn't rewarding that with a call-up (and are only getting criticized for it).

They'll probably end up forcing him into the lineup sometime in 2025 and into 2026 to either sink or swim. And ultimately that's going to be after more than 2 seasons worth of ABs in AAA to establish who he is.

So the options thing will likely sort itself out to some extent. But he needs to start developing.

One thing that baffles me about Jordan Walker is they have exit velo readings at Memphis and I swear I always see people post about how hard he's hitting the ball. He still has a lot of supporters in his camp. And then I'm flabbergasted when I see his .244/.313/.376 slash line.

DJ's left nut

What's your take on Quinn Mathews?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">LHP Quinn Mathews pitched a scoreless inning in today&#39;s <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FuturesGame?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#FuturesGame</a>.<br><br>He struck out two batters and allowed one hit and a weak comebacker to the mound in the NL&#39;s 6-1 win.<br><br>The 23-year-old is the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/STLCards?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#STLCards</a> No. 2 prospect and was selected in the 4th round of the 2023 MLB Draft. <a href="https://t.co/3Bson4dJG4">pic.twitter.com/3Bson4dJG4</a></p>&mdash; Cardinals Player Development (@CardsPlayerDev) <a href="https://twitter.com/CardsPlayerDev/status/1812250308770148666?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 13, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Because he doesn't hit the ball in the air. You can smash a ground ball 110mph and its still an out or a single at best.

Just get the ball in the air. That's it. You dont even have to hit it hard. Look at Isaac Paredes. The guy is the finesse pitcher version of a hitter and he's consistently 130+ wRC+ because he gets the ball in the air.

Dunno much about him. Seems to be a fast riser; similar to Tink Hence in that he came from nowhere to explode up the prospect ranks.

Looks to me like the results are better than the stuff. Guessing he's a lefty that hides the ball really well. We won't know much about him until he gets to AAA. Or at least gets around 75 innings under his belt in AA. I just wanna see how his stuff works against more advanced hitters.

In the low minors, deception will get you a long way. By the time you get to AA and AAA, you have to actually be able to beat these guys to get those kinds of results. I just don't think you can scout stat lines in the low minors (at least not with pitchers; I think it works a little better for hitters). I mean he punched a guy out on a hung breaker in that clip and then threw an okay fastball to get the next guy but a big leaguer's going to spit on that pitch 9 times out of 10 (it wasn't a very competitive pitch; looked like a waste pitch that the guy swung at).

I like the delivery, though. Linear, fairly quiet, good finish. Maybe a little violent but nothing extreme. Looks like a nice foundation. I mean the guys getting outs and performing and there's nothing not to like about that. I just caution against putting too much stock in his numbers just yet.

Exactly.

A 110 mph grounder is still a nothingburger but it'll help those exit velocity figures a lot.

With his hands as quick as they are and the insane raw power he has, if he'd just work on using his hips it would take him a long way. For right now he needs to focus on opening up and destroying anything on the inner-half. Make guys inside-conscious. Then they'll start pitching you away and you can use that incredible reach and raw power to start driving balls into RC field. And with that raw power, plenty of those will go out.

He has so much offensive potential and he's just not using any of it. Reminds me so much of Heyward. Heyward was his own worst enemy his whole career. Everything he did seemed to be with the intent of cutting down strikouts and destroying his natural power. He did all this weird shit to shorten his swing and make himself an inside out hitter that it just gutted all his tools.

Walker's doing the same thing. G'damn man, let the bat eat.

Heyward had a .393 OBP at age 20. His most similar batter by age on Baseball Reference was Willie Mays at 20 LOL

The rest of his career was a lot of frustration and meh.

That's a great point. College arms typically have their way with the lower minors.

I've never leaned harder into the idea that "once you demonstrate a skill, you own it until age or injury takes it from you..."

Heyward was the most obvious candidate in the world for that axiom. After his age 22 season, the sky was the limit for him. He showed power and patience and everything you'd want from a perpetual 30/30 candidate who should be getting MVP votes annually. He was a 22 year old superstar in waiting.

And then...wasn't. He got hit by that pitch (broke his jaw, right?) and was just never the same. The argument would be, I guess, that 'injury' took it away from him by making him tentative. But damn man, he was 23 when that happened; I just don't buy it 2 or 3 years later.

From a pure technique standpoint, he was getting in his own way. He just wouldn't open up his shoulders/hips and drive the damn ball. He was so closed off trying to reduce his K-Rate that he jammed himself on anything from the middle in.

The only pitches he drove were pitches down and away that FORCED him to extend his arms. He ruined himself. Age didn't do it, injury didn't do it. He did to himself. I can't think of many guys like it.

He’s a baller. Good get. I’m not sure they can screw this guy up. He’s going to hit.

Not a lot of ceiling, IMO. But he’s going to be a quality player. The hope is a Pedroia sort.

The W Boys up the middle of the Cardinals with Wynn and Weatherholt. Solid pick for Cardinals. Weatherholt can hit.

Hit is the biggest deal. It's crazy to me that a team like the Nationals would take a player in the top 10 like Seaver King that has hit concerns.

From the Athletic Cardinals draft JJ Wetherholt with No. 7 pick:

‘They’re getting a baller’

By Katie Woo and Chad Jennings
Jul 14, 2024
St. Louis Cardinals scouting director Randy Flores couldn’t help but smile when asked if he was surprised JJ Wetherholt was still available as the Cardinals prepared to make their first pick of the MLB Draft.

The consensus inside the draft room: “We were very, very excited,” Flores said.

With the seventh pick and their first top-10 selection since 1998, the Cardinals landed a player they were on high from the start. Wetherholt, a 21-year-old infielder out of West Virginia, was expected to go anywhere in the first 10 selections, even as high as No. 1. When it became clear to St. Louis that Wetherholt would still be there at No. 7, the pick was a no-brainer.

“If you were to look back and see our draft room discussions, from our baseball development group, to our mental skills group who was present at our combine interviews, to our scouts who saw him as an underclassman, or area scouts who have known him for years, if you get any chance to listen to how JJ presents himself and his journey, you realize that this is a special young man,” Flores said.

Wetherholt traveled with his family to Fort Worth, Texas, and was on-site when his name was called. On stage, MLB Draft analyst Xavier Scruggs, a former Cardinal, asked Wetherholt what kind of player the Cardinals were getting, and he shot straight.

“They’re getting a baller, man,” Wetherholt answered. “I can do it all. I can do a little bit of everything. And I’m a learner. I’m super excited to see what the Cardinals can do to make me a better player.”


Wetherholt grew up in Pittsburgh and was quite familiar with the Cardinals as a kid. He wasn’t necessarily a Pirates fan, quipping instead that he often attended games at PNC Park to see the visiting team.

“Surprisingly, we’re not the craziest Pittsburgh family, but I know a lot of friends back home texted me and they did not want me to go to the Cardinals,” Wetherholt said coyly. “But now they’ll become Cardinals fans.”

Wetherholt knew coming into the draft that St. Louis was a possible landing spot for him, and even dreamed last month that the Cardinals would take him.

“I had just woken up from a nap,” he laughed. “I woke up and I was saying Cardinals.”

Now that it’s a reality, Wetherholt is thrilled.

“I had a really great meeting with them,” he said. “They brought a lot of people in to talk. Great conversations. I really wasn’t too sure at the end of the day where I would go, but we found out it was the Cardinals, and I couldn’t be happier.”

“It’s a baseball city. They’re winners, and I’m super excited to join the family,” he added.

Regarded as arguably the top contact hitter in his class, Wetherholt had a second hamstring strain in the last 12 months that may have initially dampened his projections. But he rebounded firmly in his junior season, leaving scouts and evaluators marveling at his bat-to-ball skills, specifically on pitches in the zone. He hit .336 with a 1.061 OPS in 36 games for West Virginia this year and walked (30) more times than he struck out (17). He’s a scrappy infielder who played most of last season at shortstop but also has ample experience at third and second base. He’ll begin in the Cardinals system as a shortstop, though Flores mentioned Wetherholt’s defensive versatility being a strength, highlighting how the organization uses players like Tommy Edman and Brendan Donovan as examples.


The Cardinals are not overly concerned about Wetherholt’s hamstring injury. To the contrary, how Wetherholt rebounded from his latest injury — a Grade-3 strain suffered in February — was a selling point for Flores and his team.

“Hearing him go over his program and the steps that he’s taken to ensure that physically, he’s able to meet the rigors of the game … the fact that he showed he could get back on the field and excel is something we do anticipate him 100 percent moving forward and having this in his rearview mirror,” Flores said.

Another underlying trait the Cardinals valued, Flores said, was Wetherholt’s commitment to West Virginia, where he played all three of his collegiate seasons.

“Knowing that he has that type of grit, knowing also that he has that type of loyalty in this day and age, with the (transfer) portal and NILs and the opportunities these ballplayers are afforded,” Flores explained. “For him to ascend to a spot where he was the top position player on many boards going into this spring and the loyalty he had for West Virginia who liked him before anyone else, I think that is another trait that is maybe understated.”

The Cardinals have a slot value of $6,823,700 with their No. 7 pick this year. They forfeited their second-round pick when they signed pitcher Sonny Gray, a qualified free agent, meaning they will not pick again until the 80th overall section in Round 3. The organization expects to sign Wetherholt and will look to assign him to an affiliate. Already, the Cardinals are excited about Wetherholt’s future.

“He’s hit, and he’s always hit,” Flores said. “What was really impressive to our scouting group this summer was that he did it against the best competition and he did it while nursing some soreness. Oftentimes in this day and age, it’s natural, players only want to play when they’re 100 percent. But he was someone who knew that even though he was limited a little bit physically, he was taking at-bats.

“He’s athletic, he has good hands, he has speed, good contact and he knows how to damage when the pitch warrants it. … All indications are that he is ready to go and start playing. We can’t wait to begin that onboarding process.”

Shocked that he fell to the Cards at number 7. Hope the positive momentum continues for the rest of the draft. Thanks for sharing that article!

He was my first "Noot". A player every one sucked off at first that i saw through. Then act all shocked when he turns out a turd.Two for two on those 2 players. Boom...

You saw through the "turd" Nootbaar who holds a career 3.4 fWAR over a 162 game span. Wow. You are so good at this.

Just stop. You're pathetic. Empty ****ing stat. End of the order/platoon guy. That hobo Brandon Marsh is what you think Noot is.

You aren't winning this

Literally everyone here disagrees with you on this point.

Gimp that can't stay healthy in an every day role/ .230 career hitter...superstar! I can bump the same people like jd that used WAR for Heyward too. He also was forced into a spot at the top of the order for far too long and propped up by subjective defensive metrics.

Ya no one is winning this...

That is par for the course in our fan life these days. Besides those idiots that fill Bush. we are all losing since 2013 and the front office isnt doing shit right. We just have to deal with this shit and say thank you sir, may I have another.

For the record, the Cardinals pretty much mailed in day 2 of the draft. A couple of reaches and a few more guys with no ceiling whatsoever. A ton of college guys who profile as backups and organizational depth.

So they made the one pick that anyone in this thread could've made and then proceeded to take the rest of the draft off.

This organization is going nowhere until they fire every single person in it.

Even Chaim Bloom?

They were trying to save money because they're afraid JJ will be an overslot signing. Why have they decided to never draft anyone out of high school?

JJ was said to be an under slot possibility prior to the draft through the first 4 picks.

Slot at 7 is $6.8 million (and there's no penalty for going 10% over, IIRC). So the Cardinals could realistically paid him about $7.5 million without endangering the rest of their bonus pool. Almost exactly what he'd get at the 5 spot. And really, they could've offered him about 7.8 million without worrying since their overall bonus pool is about $10.2 million.

No, there's no justification for tanking your draft to sign Wetherholt. He's not going back to college and leaving as a 4-yr SR with no draft leverage and an injury history. He might get a little bit over slot, but not enough to worry about.

The Cardinals have half-assed the last 3-4 drafts. Nothing but high floor, low ceiling guys after their first pick. And honestly, I think it's because they realize how bad they are at this. They're just going to throw numbers at the problem and hope a couple of these high floor guys turn into 2-3 WAR players.

Because they know they can't scout or develop raw talent. This is just another example of a bad organization playing its slice.

Why not?

If Mozeliak hired him, he said SOMETHING that Mozeliak liked. And if Mozeliak is in favor of it, I'm opposed.

Mozeliak is completely ****ing inept. If he hired Bloom then Bloom is also going to be bad at his job.

I just feel Bloom got a raw deal in Boston where his hands were tied by John Henry not wanting to be an all-out superpower like the Red Sox were in the Theo Epstein days, but Bloom was still being held to the same standard as the superpower Red Sox. The Red Sox have been somewhat of a surprise this year and Bloom's homegrown talent is a big part of it. Bloom was probably hoping for an Andrew Friedman in LA situation in Boston and instead, he got a situation similar to the Cubs right now with Tom Ricketts where they're trying to half-ass it and win.

I looked at the guy they picked at 80, and just stopped there. They have nearly no one to project from the last few drafts. For pitchers itslike they still think it is the 1980s. Soft tossing lefties with no swing and miss stuff.

They drafted a college midget at 80 whose best ceiling is a middle reliever strike thrower. They basically drafted a modern day Brad Thompson.

I said Seth Maness. Potayto, Potahto.

The last couple drafts have been nothing but chasing 'fast risers' but lose sight of the fact that it's CEILING that determines if you make the bigs quickly, not floor and not polish.

Because it's not a race to AAA. Some of these 'low risk' picks may make it to AA sooner than the other guys, but they're going to stall there.

You get fast risers by taking someone like Gavin Williams instead of Mike McGreevy. McGreevy was taken because he was 'polished' and would get to the bigs quickly. But then he hit the high minors and got smoked because he just isn't very good.

Meanwhile Gavin Williams is a 6'6" planet of a human being taken a few spots after McGreevy who was HUGELY projectable and is already a guy who looks like a #2 starter for a good ballclub.

This team just has everything wrong.

Sure.

Bloom got screwed. If the Dodgers or Rays had hired him - Hell if the Pirates or Reds had hired him - I'd presume they'd made a good pick.

Mozeliak hired him. So **** him.

I'm just happy to see your not holding on to any bias.

Chaim? **** yes you fire some one with that name

Cardinals finally took their first Prep player...in round 19.

Putting them in the same company as the Colorado Rockies.

Lovely.

These guys are just ****ing lazy. If you don't draft any high school players, that's a whole bunch of games you don't have to bother scouting. And a fair bit of money ol' Dollar Bill can save on travel and scout salaries.

It would mesh well with their unbelievably stupid decision to close down their Latin Academy several years back...

It just seems like they don't even have information on all of the prospects. Follow a few they like and then craft their board accordingly. I'm not saying you should always go off of ratings, but when you are taking a guy at 80 that no one else has rated before 230, you are doing something wrong.

Helsley was the only all star?

It's sooooo over.

I'm kind of shocked that Hall of Fame scout Bill Schmidt drafted only one prep player for the Rockies.

Cardinals prospects that made the Baseball Prospectus' Midseason 50

14. JJ Wetherholt, SS/2B, St. Louis Cardinals

Why He’ll Succeed: Our draft review isn’t coming out until later in the week, but suffice to say that we view getting Wetherholt—who we considered one of the clear three best players in the draft—at the seventh pick as a coup for the Cardinals. When healthy, Wetherholt picked up right where he left off his D1 batting title campaign, mashing all-fields contact at optimal angles, and continuing his excellent swing decisions. Although he lacks tons of high-end raw pop, Wetherholt hits the ball consistently close to his top range despite a lack of effort in his cut, projecting for at least average power at the next level. He employs a smooth, rhythmic hand load with a short, steep bat angle that keeps his launch distributions in a tight cone. He went left on the defensive spectrum this year, establishing himself as a viable shortstop with average defensive projection, although with Masyn Winn at short in St. Louis he’s probably ultimately headed back to second base.

Why He Might Fail: He’s suffered several hamstring injuries in the last calendar year; he missed a chunk of time in the 2024 college season and did not look fully recovered for several weeks after resuming play. The all-fields approach thing pops back up here; while his overall swing- and contact-level data is remarkably similar to Bazzana, he’s not going to pop as many homers with the present skill set because he doesn’t pull the ball in the air nearly as much.

43. Tink Hence, RHP, St. Louis Cardinals

Why He’ll Succeed: Hence has taken another step forward in 2024, emphasizing his plus slider to back his mid-90s fastball, leading to more strikeouts and fewer bombs back in the hitter’s haven of Springfield. The slide piece has been a real weapon, just disappearing under hitter’s bats, and he has a more than usable change and curve as well.

Why He Might Fail: Hence has had issues staying on the mound for a full season. He’s only at 54 innings on the season and hasn’t pitched in a Double-A game in nearly a month. Yep, he’s a pitcher.

46. Quinn Mathews, LHP, St. Louis Cardinals

Why He’ll Succeed: The 2023 fourth-rounder unexpectedly had a huge velocity jump this spring, jumping 3-4 ticks into the mid-90s, and he’s sustained it across the season to date; like Jobe and Chandler it’s coming from a low VAA with plus carry. He was already a changeup artist, and the extra oomph has also registered with a tight gyro slider playing as a very viable third offering. He’s struck out 120 batters in 85 innings and it is not an accident at all.

Why He Might Fail: This velocity is completely new to him and sometimes that doesn’t hold over the course of a career; reversing this glow up would turn him back into a change and command type. And this is the biggest “also, he’s a pitcher” on this list: he was used extremely heavily at Stanford, including a 156-pitch outing that caused a huge national debate on college pitcher usage.

"Tink" Seriously?

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Butters was sucking off a reliever the Cardinals just brought in. First pitch home run to tie the game.

Butters is Jim Edmonds?

The Pirates are gonna grind Skenes into dust.

No way do I trust Mo to make any trades. We could have had Soto for Dylan Carlson but Mo thought that was insane. **** making a trade. He’ll just **** up shit more.

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This thread is as dead as the season

Chip said just a bit ago its been an entertaining series LMAO

If you're a Nats fan, yeah.

Looks like Dewallet is closed for the foreseeable future.

Sell the team you greedy old codger.

Harper wanted here

Same old Dewitt’s. We are broke.

With the trade deadline almost here, the #STLCards front office may be handcuffed due to management

Per John Denton, Cardinals management has let the front office know that the club is ‘not positioned to take on significant salary in the coming years via trade.’

Could well be a trial balloon to see what kind of pushback they get from the fans.

Or an undersell and overperform thing.

Never trust anything that comes from this front office. It’s all PR bullshit. They’re just pathological liars.

It’s like having politicians run your baseball team. And they wonder why the fans don’t give a shit.

This would be a Cardinals type move.

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If they insist on wasting a GG caliber SS by playing him in CF (while hammering a DH into 2b) then they may as well trade him.

Edman's about half as valuable here as he would be in another organization since we're wasting his defensive value. If they can flip him for an asset they'll actually use - sure, why not?

Though I think we all know that they should be selling. Its an insane seller's market, the Cardinals continue to hover around .500 with no real path towards genuine post-season relevance (they don't have any arms to bring up in September that could steal them a playoff game or two) and they have assets like Helsley that will return some genuine prospect capital.

But the Cardinals, as is their custom, will do the stupid thing. Whatever options are available to them, they'll take the dumbest one.

Do nothing or acquire a random average reliever?

Bye bye, Edman.

I'm seeing reports the Cards got Fedde and also acquired Pham? Wild if true.

Edman to the Dodgers. Jesus I bet he becomes an all star.