Is that what I said?

Pretty sure it’s not. At all.

We need DLine depth always. And they made the trade knowing Omenihu was coming back soon anyways so that still doesn't make sense.

I get it, but the guy has a higher pass rush ceiling than all but probably 3 guys on this entire roster. Don’t think he ever really got a shot to show what he can do. it is what it is, just seems like they could find a spot for a guy who has a unique skill set compared to the rest of the unit. Especially considering the fact our pass rush has been god awful.

On the team? Sure. Active for a specific game? Nah.

This guy has done absolutely nothing

Tough to make an impact getting 2-3 reps a game

37 snaps in 5 games, most of which came his first week here and he was around the QB a ton that game.

We know how these guys operate, though. You don’t fit the system perfectly, you’re not going to play. This one specifically never made a lot of sense scheme wise, guessing the price was just so good they figured why not give it a shot.

Or MaYbE hE's a SecREt weAPoN FoR tHE PlAYoFfs ...

Kind of joking, but shoot, it wouldn't surprise me if they're trying to get by without using him much until the playoffs so they can spring their top uses of him on unsuspecting opponents.

really dont understand why this guy isnt even getting snaps on obvious pss rush downs. We cannot get pressure right now. Why not see what we have?

He wasn't on the active roster last night.

I may be imagining this but I swear in the last couple of weeks I saw a 3rd down snap where he came into the game to speed rush from the edge and CJ moved him inside because he wanted the edge match up, and Uche looked at him like "I'm rushing from the interior???"

Yeah if they're hellbent on never using this guy in the only way you can, it's kind of a waste of time and a pick, even a late one. Honestly, our pass rush is so God damn slow it's a bummer not seeing him given a chance

We can only hope that Duncan is right, and we're kinda saving him as a surprise x factor for the playoffs

Save him for the playoffs.

Tbh, I haven't noticed him except a couple snaps, and that was a couple weeks ago. It seems odd that we're not utilizing him more in obvious passing downs, considering he's literally the only speed rusher on the defense.

Our usage of players is pretty frustrating. I just have to remind myself that Andy Reid has learned he can win games while using a regular season as a test kitchen. Much as we may bitch about rotations and starters early in the season, he generally gets it right by the postseason. So we may give more reps to guys like Nazeeh and FAU and Danna, less reps to DHop and uche. We may hold off on overloading Pacheco too soon after the injury. Unfortunately we try to squeeze every drop out of lemons like skyy Moore.

I’m hopeful that’s all this is.

Hopkins only in on 55% of the offensive snaps last night, Uche inactive… these guys need to be getting more snaps (especially Hopkins).

The Chiefs are struggling to rush the passer, and they have a pass rusher they traded for inactive.

Makes no sense.

My thought has been that Uche wouldn't get a lot of snaps right off the bat because the defense is so complicated. Spags has 20 different plays for just C-Zero, fcs.

So it hasn't surprised me that much that Uche wasn't getting a lot of snaps right off the bat. But it's been a few weeks now, and his snaps haven't seemed to increase at all, which feels like Uche isn't absorbing the playbook nearly as quickly as hoped? But then last night he isn't even active? Feels not good to me.

If all he's doing is come into rush the passer, then it doesn't matter if he doesn't know the playbook. All he has to do is lineup across from the OT and then beat him.

Come on, you have to know by now that just isn't how Spags operates. He wants this guy to fit into the defense, which means he has to learn at least some small portion of the playbook.

And even on pure passing downs, there's a lot of communication going on, all lot of moving players and parts before the snap. He can't just line up and rush any way he wants. That's simply not how things work in Spags world.

That's....not close to true.

ROFLROFL

How about this -

We cut this guy then go sign literally any left tackle that's interested to come play here?

Not gonna judge the guy yet. We all know Spags can be a stubborn sob and we just saw that with his obsession with playing Nazeeh over Williams. Hopefully Josh keeps learning the playbook and gets his chance soon because lord knows he's way more proven at getting sacks than Danna, FAU and Herring are.

No he isn’t . Throw out his high year and his low year and he averages two to three sacks a year as a one trick pony speed rusher. Stop make believing that his one outlier year is what he is . All of the other years show what he is

Nate Taylor says that he thinks Josh Uche will be inactive the rest of the year. Interesting trend. Spags definitely has his guys.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Josh Uche, Cam Thomas, and Neil Ferrell are the last three defensive players the Chiefs have traded for and none have worked out. Small assets were traded, but you won’t get me to believe that Uche can’t help one of the worst 4 man pass rushes in the NFL. <a href="https://t.co/5yGyoAeiXc">https://t.co/5yGyoAeiXc</a></p>&mdash; Daniel Harms🏈 (@InHarmsWay19) <a href="https://twitter.com/InHarmsWay19/status/1867724242441408619?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 14, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Good Lord

If Spags has a single flaw it's that he hates smaller, faster ends that you know......get to the quarterback.

Can you name a single one we'd had since he's been here?

He doesn't like them because they're so limited. He likes players that are multiple, that are Swiss Army knives.

Is he not consulted when making these moves or something?

Then why trade for them in the first place? Seems to be a disconnect between the FO and coaching staff.

I’m pretty sure josh was drafted to play literally outside backer.

He’s way too small to set the edge in spags defense and as a situational 3rd down rusher with no special teams benefit it’s easy to see why he won’t play

He’s not exactly a 240 pound pass rush specialist. He’s just an outside linebacker with good burst

And here we are with no pass rush.

Dee Ford light.

At first I thought Uche was the size of Frank Clark but Frank carried 25 more pounds of weight.

Whoa.

He didn’t do anything with the Patriots this year and he didn’t do anything here..

Your obsession with me is super weird, dude. Going through my post history to put on your sig is super weird. Must have struck a cord with the family beating stuff. Truth hurts huh?

I'm not the only person that had the same thought.

It’s extremely frustrating but at the same time Spags was the biggest reason we were able to even make and win the SB last year with the offensive struggles.

They’ve given up more than 27 points 1 time since the Eagles SB which is absolutely insane. It’s hard to be mad when those are the results his defense is producing

Amazing how you can go from 12 sacks to being a nothing player.

He's a better pass rusher than our other DEs and he should have been given a shot. Bizarre how little Spags cares for speed in the DL. Shame, a waste of resource

Spags tells Veach he could use some help on the DL. Veach gets him some DL. Spags doesn't play him. Doesn't Veach talk to Spags and ask if player "X" is available and Veach is interested in trading for him. Seems like a disconnect here somewhere.

Has he played for the Chiefs yet? Kind of premature to kick his arse to the curb so soon.

Right?

I mean even if you lucked into half of them that is still showing some pass rush juice. This guy is an odd case.


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They gave him one game, his first week here, and that was pretty much it. He’s barely seen the field since, and I thought he looked pretty good that week. Was getting to the QB.

Whatever, you can’t argue with these guys at this point. Seems like a waste, but Spags has more Super Bowl wins as a DC than me by a pretty wide margin, so I’ll just trust him to pick the players he likes.

I’m still using Uche on Madden though, damn it! They can’t stop me from doing that!

This is insane. I know Spags wants to crush the pocket as a group but ****. And the time that Chris Jones made him kick in to DT was kind of bullshit. I almost wonder if some egos aren’t involved. Maybe uchesaid **** that don’t ever kick me inside I’m better than you out there.

We don't know what we don't know. There are 3 practices per week that we don't see. The coaches know something about fit or like you suggested ego or attitude.

The last time he was on the field Omenihu and Chris lined up at DE and Uche was told by Bolton to line up inside. It certainly feels like Uche expected to line up at end and wasn’t happy that he didn’t.

Feels like he wants to play outside bc it’s his best shot to get paid but he’s not being a team player.

Well, it’s also our best shot to get to the QB. We create zero pressure right now because we lack speed. The Tackles don’t have to do much to stop our 3rd down pressure. That’s where we could desperately use Uche. It’s a ****ing head scratcher for sure

NE let go of him for next to nothing and the Chiefs aren't impressed.

At some point a turd is just a turd.

The issue is why he can't get any snaps if the players above him are also turds. At least he adds an aspect they dont have. Hell he has .5 more sacks than Danna in 100+ less snaps and 50 less snaps than FAU.

Spags doesn't show much during the season. In the playoffs things get nasty.

He must not think that Uche will translate well to what he wants to do in the playoffs.

They just don't seem to want speed rushers. Ever. I don't get it.

Trading partners are like friends. You may need their pickup later for a move. Hopkins was a well used Humvee

He's there if we need him.

Maybe he complained about Mama Spags cooking?

The coaches are probably dumb.

Sounds like dude is just too fast and gets to the QB too often for what our coaches are looking for

Or, and hear me out on this, he sucks which is why he was available for a ham sandwich

they probably don't play him because it might hurt the run defense, which we are pretty good at

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Hear me out, the guys we're currently playing over him have less sacks than him in more snaps.


No one is even saying he should start or he should get the majority of snaps. But for him to get 1 snap in a game and then inactive the next when we have one of the worst pass rushes in the league. That makes no sense.


Maybe he doesn't set the edge as well as Mike Danna and FAU. You know how important it is to set that edge on 3rd and long.

Or maybe they haven’t liked what they’ve seen from him since he’s arrived

I seem to remember that that was the dig on him when he came over. That he isn't good at run D because he's up the arc and not trying to set an edge.

So I get not using him on first and second down, or third and short. But passing downs? Not even as a rotational body?

Sure. He still has more sacks and higher pressure rate than FAU. Again, no one is asking for him to start. But for a pass rush as bad as ours it should be all hands on deck.

And unlike FAU he can play special teams so even more reason to have him active.

The only reason FAU is playing is because we burned a first round pick on him. He's the defense's Skyy Moore as of now.

Omenihu had a near 16% pass rush win rate in his first game back. Not shocking that we have 6 sacks in 2 games since he’s been back.

Probably rolling with him a DE anyway

Outside of 2022 dude has been ass cheeks

Seems he’s returned to his mean

Sometimes it’s that simple

This is getting me excited! Thank you for an excellent post. Do you have a link to the numbers?

What don't you understand that I'm talking about this season? He has a higher pressure rate and more sacks and plays special teams THIS SEASON.

He’s been eating too many donuts

We desperately needed that. Hope he keeps it up and Karlaftis can start getting home on the other side

When I said he’s been booty outside of 2022 I was including THIS SEASON

Which is why I think he should get some snaps because the two players ahead of him have been even more booty. And he plays special teams while one of them doesn't.

So we agree he’s booty and just a brand you favor over coaches likely due to things neither of us have insights into

Bottom barrel AFC East competition probably hind tit fighting

Wow. This…doesn’t seem great

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This defintely reads like a GM trying to send a signal to the DC that there are some personnel changes in order...and the DC saying we will see about that.<br><br>Seems like the answer as to why Joshua Uche won&#39;t play is because Brett Veach acquired a pass rusher Spgas doesn&#39;t want. <a href="https://t.co/zRz1Ys7hoR">https://t.co/zRz1Ys7hoR</a></p>&mdash; DMac Wake (@DMacWake316) <a href="https://twitter.com/DMacWake316/status/1868657645395365913?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 16, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I don't understand the concern here. Unsurprisingly Matt Conner is reading way too much into it.

Yeah, it's an issue.

Omenihu coming back has really pushed the defense back to it's form.

And Williams being about 80% of Watson. Hopefully the D continues to build. But i'd still like to see Uche active. There were a few 3 and longs where Jameis just stood around back there for several seconds.

This guy should play this week so we don't risk injury to our starters!

Yeah, I get that Spags should weigh in on big contracts and such, but I don't necessarily think he needs to have input on signing a guy to the practice squad. If it works out, great. If it doesn't, we only committed a salary level that's close to a rounding error.