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Coochie liquor 01-20-2025 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17924763)
I still struggle to hate Buffalo.

I like Josh Allen. I even like Sean McDermott and his weird terrorist sympathizing. I kinda like Cooper getting away from Oakland and then Cleveland. I've always like Samuel. I like most of their defense (Von Miller excluded).

Cook getting out of Dalvin's shadow is a fun story.

Their fans are no different than we are -- they just haven't had the recent titles. Historically it's hard not to like Kelly/Thomas/Reed/Bruce/Levy.

I can't bring myself to hate the Bills.

But I absolutely think we're a better football team.

**** their reeruned fans in the ass. They deserve nothing. And I hope they get the same treatment at Arrowhead as they gave that child cancer survivor they bullied and heckled.

The family of a cancer survivor says her first-ever NFL game was spoiled when a Buffalo Bills fan "purposely" pushed the young girl because she was cheering for the opposing team.

Mia DeCamilla's parents told CBS affiliate WIVB that their 8-year-old daughter, who became a San Francisco 49ers fan because of her dad, was shoved by a "drunk" Bills fan at the game featuring the two teams on Sunday, Dec. 1 at Highmark Stadium in Orchard Park, N.Y.

While she was not injured in the incident, DeCamilla fell from her seat, and was so shook up that she wanted to leave the game early.

“The guy purposely walked through and was pushing through people,” Mia's father Mike DeCamilla told WIVB about the fan who claimed that he was going to "push through all these Niner fans" while walking down a snow-covered part of the stairs. “I get that it’s busy and hectic, but he had to be six-foot and she is less than 100 lbs.”

Mike added, "He actually bumped me and my son a little bit and then got past me and pushed her, almost slid off the stairs, and hit her side on the chairs."

staylor26 01-20-2025 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by crayzkirk (Post 17924843)
Evidently, I don't see it. What i saw in those situations was using plays that took advantage of the defensive alignment. Or in the case of the Texans game, blitzing against their offensive line because their prior drive consumed most of the 3rd quarter and the defense didn't have an answer. I didn't seem any efficiency on the first two drives against the Texans. Wouldn't have made sense to get TDs instead of FGs in that situation?

I find the narrative that the Chiefs are going to turn into Acme and break out all of these amazing plays to dazzle the opponent dumb.

You're being obtuse.

htismaqe 01-20-2025 10:05 AM

OK, **** Buffalo fans.

I checked out socials this morning and there's a new trend.

"If the refs are going to call it anyway, make it count. Hit him in the head and neck over and over. Take him out of the game."

Yep, they're so jealous and insecure that they are advocating injuring an opposing player on purpose.

TEX 01-20-2025 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by crayzkirk (Post 17924843)
Evidently, I don't see it. What i saw in those situations was using plays that took advantage of the defensive alignment. Or in the case of the Texans game, blitzing against their offensive line because their prior drive consumed most of the 3rd quarter and the defense didn't have an answer. I didn't seem any efficiency on the first two drives against the Texans. Wouldn't have made sense to get TDs instead of FGs in that situation?

I find the narrative that the Chiefs are going to turn into Acme and break out all of these amazing plays to dazzle the opponent dumb.

Yeah, I think you're right. It's not going to be any big change. They're just going to have to win like they've done all year. The good thing is, they've been playing this way all year so they're used to it.

staylor26 01-20-2025 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 17924964)
Yeah, I think you're right. It's not going to be any big change. They're just going to have to win like they've done all year. The good thing is, they've been playing this way all year so they're used to it.

Of course this ****ing dumbass doesn't get it either.

It is absolutely hilarious how people in the media have even figured out how Andy/Spags keep things up their sleeves for the playoffs, but you all are ****ing Chiefs fans thst have been watching the team all this time, and STILL don't get it.

LMAO

Jerm 01-20-2025 10:18 AM

**** Josh Allen
**** Osama bin McDermott
**** Bills Mafia
**** the Buffalo Bills

Wallcrawler 01-20-2025 10:22 AM

This is the best possible outcome for KC.

Andy had his big thumb up his ass moment against this team, calling plays that had much lower chance to work over just feeding Hunt the ball.

Spags got absolutely embarrassed on the 4th and 2 td play where he was the only guy on the planet that didn't know Josh was keeping the ball.

Mahomes had two turnovers last time.

The only actual loss the team received was from this team.

There will be zero overlooking them, looking ahead, thus is a pure payback opportunity and revenge is a dish best served cold, and no better revenge than taking their Superbowl hopes and crushing them for a fourth straight time.

Can't wait for this game, and assuming two potatoes don't hit the sidelines dressed like Andy and Spags, it's going to be spectacular.

SAGA45 01-20-2025 10:23 AM

The Chiefs defense is the difference in this one.

DJ's left nut 01-20-2025 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17924971)
Of course this ****ing dumbass doesn't get it either.

It is absolutely hilarious how people in the media have even figured out how Andy/Spags keep things up their sleeves for the playoffs, but you all are ****ing Chiefs fans thst have been watching the team all this time, and STILL don't get it.

LMAO

I've said for a couple years that I think the Chiefs do weird shit just to throw off the math on the tendency breakers.

Nobody's sitting there watching every single down/distance scenario to come up with their tendency figures. They use math. And then they find the scenarios within the math and dig a little deeper.

But if you can 'throw' plays here and there to screw with the math and the spreadsheets these teams are using to try to identify a tendency, it never even gets that kind of deeper dive from coaching staffs.

I still don't know that I think the Chiefs 'save the good plays' but I do think they fudge the tendencies and I think they avoid spamming the shit that works (i.e. Kelce murdering Cover 4).

But all of that still requires execution to take advantage of. And it's been the execution on this offense that has worried me all season. The coaching staff may start to say "damn the torpedoes" and start calling their 'gotta have it' plays more often -- I still just don't know how much I trust this offense to execute.

The execution has just been really really spotty on offense this year. And it seems to coming from different areas in any given game.

Execute and we'll win. But the next game I see from this team where they execute at a high level for 60 minutes will be the first since last year's Super Bowl.

That's where I get nervous.

staylor26 01-20-2025 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SAGA45 (Post 17924991)
The Chiefs defense is the difference in this one.

It absolutely should be. The difference between our defense and theirs should absolutely keep us from going 0-2 to the Bills this year.

Mecca 01-20-2025 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SD15 (Post 17924802)
Hollywood Brown & Deandre Hopkins had 0 catches against the Texans. Andy will turn them loose against Buffaloes. Success!!!

It was a microcosm of what Houston was doing, they played a ton of zone coverage. In the first game they got owned by mesh and crossers over and over in man and decided they wouldn't let that happen again, so they got beat by the best zone better in the history of the league.

ChiTown 01-20-2025 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by PatMahomesIsGod (Post 17924901)
Cool.

Go drink an antifreeze smoothie.

LMAOLMAOLMAO
I love this place!o:-)

crayzkirk 01-20-2025 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17924876)
If that's how you read it, of course it's ridiculous... and nobody has ever said that.

For starters, they still have to execute... there might be subtleties/wrinkles to a play that aren't noticeable because they aren't merry go round huddle crazy, but they might still get blown up by the defense. The other team still shows up, even if the play is something they haven't run all year.

Sometimes it does completely fool a team, like corndog multiple times in the SB, then it looks like magic.

Of course if you take all the nuance and football out of the argument, it's a silly argument.

Yeah, I tend to get rather extreme at times. This year has been really odd, IMO. The Chiefs won a few (or more) games that they likely would have lost. They have been outgained and, in some instances outplayed yet managed to pull victory from the jaws of defeat. My take on the Chiefs is that Patrick makes a lot of what happens on offense happen because of his ability to just be great. Andy isn't drawing up plays that say run around for a while and then throw a no look pass to Worthy for a TD. Yet, this is what we see and maybe unfortunately, have come to expect.

Okay, enough of that. The Bills... I believe present a unique problem because Josh, while he is no Patrick, has the physical skills to make plays others simply can't. This game is almost like a divisional game because the two team play each other that often. Both teams are very familiar with each other. I believe the Chiefs will win because the coaching staff is better and Patrick is just better than Josh. Kelce knows how to get open and will be key again.

Bearcat 01-20-2025 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17924971)
Of course this ****ing dumbass doesn't get it either.

It is absolutely hilarious how people in the media have even figured out how Andy/Spags keep things up their sleeves for the playoffs, but you all are ****ing Chiefs fans thst have been watching the team all this time, and STILL don't get it.

LMAO

The funny thing is the Bills did exactly the same thing last postseason against the Chiefs... their offensive play calling was quite a bit different than what I've seen from them in past Chiefs games, at least until they abandoned it for hero ball late.

But again, even after you point out all the really obvious examples that occur each season, it doesn’t have to look like magic or even be noticeable... they sent Kelce this way with this look for weeks, well do this now. They've only passed out of this formation for weeks, so we'll run it and pick up 8 yards.

People who still don't get it have turned it into a Statue of Liberty play where Bobby Sippio runs out of the stands and throws it to Joe Thuney who laterals it to Kelce who throws it to Mahomes for a touchdown... just so the argument sounds silly to them.

Bearcat 01-20-2025 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by crayzkirk (Post 17925005)
Yeah, I tend to get rather extreme at times. This year has been really odd, IMO. The Chiefs won a few (or more) games that they likely would have lost. They have been outgained and, in some instances outplayed yet managed to pull victory from the jaws of defeat. My take on the Chiefs is that Patrick makes a lot of what happens on offense happen because of his ability to just be great. Andy isn't drawing up plays that say run around for a while and then throw a no look pass to Worthy for a TD. Yet, this is what we see and maybe unfortunately, have come to expect.

Yeah, I feel like he struggles when he's supposed to be doing something specific, pigeonholed into progressions and so forth, specific if your line sucks or receivers aren't getting open, etc.... and then the playoffs start and he just plays ball, him and Kelce are magically on the same page again, etc.

Just a theory, but seems like some of the bombs and what not this season were really forced, throw it no matter what kind of plays, and sometimes he's just way too much in his head about it.

Hammock Parties 01-20-2025 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 17924986)
Spags got absolutely embarrassed on the 4th and 2 td play where he was the only guy on the planet that didn't know Josh was keeping the ball.

Holy shit you don't know ball.

Chiefs D-line didn't execute on that play. It was a perfect play call.

Jones and Karlaftis got too wide and gave up a rushing lane. Nothing Spags can do about that.

smithandrew051 01-20-2025 10:36 AM

No one noticed that Mahomes actually played left handed all year.

Bills are ****ed.

Bl00dyBizkitz 01-20-2025 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17924993)
I've said for a couple years that I think the Chiefs do weird shit just to throw off the math on the tendency breakers.

Nobody's sitting there watching every single down/distance scenario to come up with their tendency figures. They use math. And then they find the scenarios within the math and dig a little deeper.

But if you can 'throw' plays here and there to screw with the math and the spreadsheets these teams are using to try to identify a tendency, it never even gets that kind of deeper dive from coaching staffs.

I still don't know that I think the Chiefs 'save the good plays' but I do think they fudge the tendencies and I think they avoid spamming the shit that works (i.e. Kelce murdering Cover 4).

But all of that still requires execution to take advantage of. And it's been the execution on this offense that has worried me all season. The coaching staff may start to say "damn the torpedoes" and start calling their 'gotta have it' plays more often -- I still just don't know how much I trust this offense to execute.

The execution has just been really really spotty on offense this year. And it seems to coming from different areas in any given game.

Execute and we'll win. But the next game I see from this team where they execute at a high level for 60 minutes will be the first since last year's Super Bowl.

That's where I get nervous.

For what it's worth, Mahomes plays exceptionally well against the Bills in the playoffs. I know, small sample size, but he does seem to up his game and focus against the Bills. Maybe knowing that Josh Allen is on the other side.

Of course on the flip side, Allen also brings his A-Game against the Chiefs in the postseason.

I just can't envision a blowout either way. Even with a depleted secondary that we "should" be able to exploit, they always seem to keep it close. It's genuinely like they're our 4th division rival.

Peace Frog 01-20-2025 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by PatMahomesIsGod (Post 17924901)
Cool.

Go drink an antifreeze smoothie.

Stay classy.

RollChiefsRoll 01-20-2025 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Peace Frog (Post 17925056)
Stay classy.

Stay on Two Bills Drive.

IowaHawkeyeChief 01-20-2025 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 17924463)
No, the Bills - the reason we went conservative against the Texans, we were winning and no need to open the entire playbook

Yep, that was my point.

crayzkirk 01-20-2025 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17924938)
You're being obtuse.

Edzackary! Thank you for making my point.

Dante84 01-20-2025 10:47 AM

So who spies Allen? Chenal? Conner?

UChieffyBugger 01-20-2025 10:51 AM

I distinctly remember everyone moaning about Spags NOT putting a spy on Allen in that game. Hopefully the great man has something up his sleeve. Josh got lauded for that performance but the reality is he was 27/40 passing for 262 yards, 1 TD and 1 int. Pat got criticisized but he did throw three TD's. What's interesting is Pat never had ANY rushing yards in that game which is shocking. Expect that to change next sunday. Jackson, Nix and even Maye have ran on that defense in recent games. And so did Stroud and Murray among others.

Lastly this might not matter much but do ya'll know the last time Buffalo's starters played on the road? DECEMBER 15TH!!. Do ya'll know the last time they played on the road that wasn't in a dome? OCTOBER 27TH in Seattle. So they've either played at home or in a dome for the last two months. It will be a different story on Sunday.

TLO 01-20-2025 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17925068)
So who spies Allen? Chenal? Conner?

As long as it isn't Bolton.

rfaulk34 01-20-2025 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by irafreak (Post 17924766)
Looks like we got another rfaulk here. Acts cordial but really us just waiting to rub it in our faces if the bills ever win a playoff game against us. ...note the passive aggressive jab about the narrative that he supposes...

I'm hurt.

https://i.makeagif.com/media/8-10-2015/jneiJM.gif

Red Dawg 01-20-2025 10:55 AM

Refs will not let us lose.

Mecca 01-20-2025 10:58 AM

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DJ's left nut 01-20-2025 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by TLO (Post 17925083)
As long as it isn't Bolton.

Yeah, after watching Stroud blow past him like a traffic cone, I'm not sure how we can even occasionally as Bolton to spy Allen.

I still say that I wouldn't spy Allen, at least not in the 1st half. The spy gives him too much time to think and survey.

Make him tuck and run. Send a genuine gap rush rather than the mush rush and play more zone on the back end so your DBs can come downhill if he breaks out and blast him.

Just make him earn every yard he goes for. And in the process you'll be able to stop Cook before he can get his legs moving because you have your DL coming downhill.

Now maybe in the 2nd half you look to mix things up and put a spy on him.

But in the 1st half, I wouldn't spy him.

RollChiefsRoll 01-20-2025 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17925100)
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Hearts and minds.

KSCHIEF 01-20-2025 11:04 AM

At some point Allen & the Bills are going to knock of Pat + Andy. I believe Allen is that talented and has historically stepped up in the playoffs and played some of his best football.

It's obviously possible that is Sunday... but I'm not sure it's very likely. Sunday is the Super Bowl, IMO. I can't see either NFC team hanging with the Bills or Chiefs. I'm ready for an Andy/Spags kitchen sink game and Patrick to play his cleanest game of the season. That and the home crowd are enough. Chiefs come out hot offensively and Buffalo keeps pace early, but fizzles in the end as the defense dials it up late.

Chiefs 30 Bills 23

IowaHawkeyeChief 01-20-2025 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Peace Frog (Post 17925056)
Stay classy.

do some research... It's tradition... so yes, go drink antifreeze. Consider it a term of endearment if you actually are not an insufferable prick.

Chiefspants 01-20-2025 11:10 AM

It’s likely Tranquill if they put a spy on Allen, which is honestly something that makes me miss Willie Gay more than anything else.

DJ's left nut 01-20-2025 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 17925160)
It’s likely Tranquill if they put a spy on Allen, which is honestly something that makes me miss Willie Gay more than anything else.

Yeah - Tranquill's every bit the problem trying to spy Allen as Bolton is. He's not explosive at this stage of his career and can very easily be run over anyway. Chenal won't be a ton better because he doesn't have the lateral agility. Allen can pretty easily throw the brakes on and get around Leo.

The only guy we've had over the years with the size, speed, agility and aggression to really be a good matchup for Allen was Gay.

Everyone else is missing something.

Kiimo 01-20-2025 11:14 AM

Bills fans registering, posting twice then running back to TBD



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smithandrew051 01-20-2025 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17925167)
Yeah - Tranquill's every bit the problem trying to spy Allen as Bolton is. He's not explosive at this stage of his career and can very easily be run over anyway. Chenal won't be a ton better because he doesn't have the lateral agility. Allen can pretty easily throw the brakes on and get around Leo.

The only guy we've had over the years with the size, speed, agility and aggression to really be a good matchup for Allen was Gay.

Everyone else is missing something.

When you spy, you’re sacrificing something somewhere else.

If you don’t have a guy that can do it well, then you aren’t generating enough of a benefit to overcome the negative.

I’m with you. I wouldn’t spy right away at least.

mr. tegu 01-20-2025 11:15 AM

I’m pretty convinced that in the first matchup they went to Worthy early and often to see what would work and once they saw the results they just completely shut down plays to him to reduce future tape for the matchup. It’s the only explanation for going away from something that was working so well.

Chargem 01-20-2025 11:19 AM

Jaylen Watson, Hollywood Brown, Charles Omenihu all missing from the first match up, feels like the Chiefs got a lot better since that meeting

RealSNR 01-20-2025 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Peace Frog (Post 17925056)
Stay classy.

You've been perusing our board for a few years but you don't seem to understand our culture and ways.

This may not be a good place for you to be.

duncan_idaho 01-20-2025 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 17925184)
I’m pretty convinced that in the first matchup they went to Worthy early and often to see what would work and once they saw the results they just completely shut down plays to him to reduce future tape for the matchup. It’s the only explanation for going away from something that was working so well.


This is the type of thing I’m talking about. They could have spammed stuff to Worthy, and worked the ball to the backs in the flats, a LOT more than they did against Buffalo in November. But they didn’t.

They didn’t roll out anything designed to take advantage of the power rush DL left, spy shades to right thing.

They didn’t spy Allen at all, let alone with one of the safeties who seems like a good matchup for that (Conner/Reid/Hicks).

And KC didn’t have Brown at receiver or Watson at corner. Both allow those units to play differently and attack differently.

UChieffyBugger 01-20-2025 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17925182)
When you spy, you’re sacrificing something somewhere else.

If you don’t have a guy that can do it well, then you aren’t generating enough of a benefit to overcome the negative.

I’m with you. I wouldn’t spy right away at least.

But what would we be sacrificing? Have to spy Allen so he can't keep scrambling for first downs and keeping the ball out of Pat's hands. Everything they do is built around the run game and Allen's legs. Yes he can throw the ball but look at his passing stats last night? They aren't using Coleman or Cooper. It's pretty much like playing the Ravens at this point.

Chiefspants 01-20-2025 11:34 AM

Reid is interesting as a potential spy, but then you’re taking him off from covering Allen’s favorite targets (his TE’s). I’m almost thinking it’d be more beneficial if we didn’t have a designated spy but instead rolled the dice and rotated one to spy in high leverage moments.

DJ's left nut 01-20-2025 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17925245)
This is the type of thing I’m talking about. They could have spammed stuff to Worthy, and worked the ball to the backs in the flats, a LOT more than they did against Buffalo in November. But they didn’t.

They didn’t roll out anything designed to take advantage of the power rush DL left, spy shades to right thing.

They didn’t spy Allen at all, let alone with one of the safeties who seems like a good matchup for that (Conner/Reid/Hicks).

And KC didn’t have Brown at receiver or Watson at corner. Both allow those units to play differently and attack differently.

Now you might be onto something.

Hicks.

Hicks COULD spy Allen, couldn't he? Hadn't really thought about him.

Rainbarrel 01-20-2025 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17925100)
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They produce Tesla superchargers

Rainbarrel 01-20-2025 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Peace Frog (Post 17925056)
Stay classy.

A tree frog avy complete with suction cups on toes

Straight, No Chaser 01-20-2025 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 17925184)
I’m pretty convinced that in the first matchup they went to Worthy early and often to see what would work and once they saw the results they just completely shut down plays to him to reduce future tape for the matchup. It’s the only explanation for going away from something that was working so well.

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Iconic 01-20-2025 11:40 AM

what lost us the game in the regular season was self-inflicted. mahomes int came off an accidental over throw as he fell face first in the ground. td bomb to worthy was mahomes just leading him too far out to the sideline. and in the most important play of that game, spags decided to run a vanilla shell with no spy to stop allen when they only needed 3 yards for a first.

these are things we just simply never do in the playoffs. the gear will be put into overdrive. on paper we are more talented. our coaches are better. our qb is better. far more experience. there's no excuses man - get the job done. we should and will clock these ****ers in the mouth at arrowhead and punch our ticket to a 3-peat.

RealSNR 01-20-2025 11:42 AM

LMAO LMAO LMAO

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Mr. Plow 01-20-2025 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17924826)
We’re going to knuckle **** their taints

LMAOLMAOLMAO

TEX 01-20-2025 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 17925308)
what lost us the game in the regular season was self-inflicted. mahomes int came off an accidental over throw as he fell face first in the ground. td bomb to worthy was mahomes just leading him too far out to the sideline. and in the most important play of that game, spags decided to run a vanilla shell with no spy to stop allen when they only needed 3 years for a first.

these are things we just simply never do in the playoffs. the gear will be put into overdrive. on paper we are more talented. our coaches are better. our qb is better. far more experienced. there's no excuses man - get the job done. we should and will clock these ****ers in the mouth at arrowhead and punch our ticket to a 3-peat.

The most important key to winning the game, will be to protect Mahomes. If he has time to throw, the KC wins.

Hammock Parties 01-20-2025 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17924826)
We’re going to knuckle **** their taints

if Mahomes win this, let him be known as the taint knuckle ****er!!!!!!!!!

ljmhawk 01-20-2025 11:54 AM

Going to be a tough game…KC needs to take care of the ball and be ready to defend them for all 4 downs. Also, we need touchdowns in the redzone….the field goals aren’t gonna cut it.

RunKC 01-20-2025 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17925167)
Yeah - Tranquill's every bit the problem trying to spy Allen as Bolton is. He's not explosive at this stage of his career and can very easily be run over anyway. Chenal won't be a ton better because he doesn't have the lateral agility. Allen can pretty easily throw the brakes on and get around Leo.

The only guy we've had over the years with the size, speed, agility and aggression to really be a good matchup for Allen was Gay.

Everyone else is missing something.

Tranquill is far more athletic than we give hk credit for. Maybe it’s that or that he looks like Usain Bolt playing next to Nick Bolton. People forget that Spags played Tranquill at safety in week 1 vs Lamar on some looks.

Leo was a great spy last year in Buffalo. He was sharing that spy role with Willie Gay last year.

I think Spags is gonna maneuver that role a bit and use guys like Conner and Tranquill and sometimes Hicks to change the looks so the Bills can’t ID who the spy is.

One thing that terrifies me about this game is Bolton. He’s not the guy you want 1v1 against anyone in the open field and I fear they will be trying to scheme those exact scenarios.

ThyKingdomCome15 01-20-2025 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17924835)
The Bills defense isn’t in the same universe as the Texans. Not even close.

The Texans have the best pass rush duo in football as well as an All-pro CB and very good rookie CB.

There’s a reason we struggled last week. Those guys are ****ing monsters.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thuney won&#39;t ever beat himself... Gets out of stance on time, square, balanced... but there are &#39;dudes&#39; at DE in this league - and they will just use that 3-4yd runway (speed to power) to blast through you. You gotta just hold on &amp; absorb - which is hard when you&#39;re not 6&#39;6 330 <a href="https://t.co/OjbGz5eC0D">pic.twitter.com/OjbGz5eC0D</a></p>&mdash; Ben Fennell (@BenFennell_NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/BenFennell_NFL/status/1881030706970907009?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 19, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Buffalo isn’t doing this with Rousseau and 40 year old Von Miller. The Ravens OL has struggled a lot and even they gave Lamar tons of time.

Again. The Texans had the best defense of any playoff team by the numbers and it showed. The Bills are not the Texans. Not even close.

We knew the Texans were missing Tank Dell but Diggs didn't play either. They've come a long way since the day they drafted Stroud. They're a really good team when at full strength, blew out the Chargers regardless.

Going into the Bills game I'm not worried about our offense. We have to find that balance on defense that borders between containing Allen and still getting pressure. Spags must go mad scientist because we also have Dalton Kincaid to contend with this time around. We don't cover TE's very well.

The bend but don't break strategy may be our best option. Let them kick field goals while we're putting up TD's. Just don't give up the home run plays.

crispystl 01-20-2025 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17924515)
Sounds like Rapp is definitely out. You can't play safety with this.

I tore the labrum in my hip and it would get all caught up and jam the movement of my hip socket. It would get stuck sitting in my office chair and I'd have to psych myself up for 5 minutes to push through the pain to get up and grind my hip ball past the loose labrum. Eventually it would pop loose, but man that shit hurt like you wouldn't believe.

I can't imagine being able to play safety in an NFL game with that injury.

Peace Frog 01-20-2025 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17925218)
You've been perusing our board for a few years but you don't seem to understand our culture and ways.

This may not be a good place for you to be.

You may be right. Was worth a try.

ChiTown 01-20-2025 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 17925373)
We knew the Texans were missing Tank Dell but Diggs didn't play either. They've come a long way since the day they drafted Stroud. They're a really good team when at full strength, blew out the Chargers regardless.

Going into the Bills game I'm not worried about our offense. We have to find that balance on defense that borders between containing Allen and still getting pressure. Spags must go mad scientist because we also have Dalton Kincaid to contend with this time around. We don't cover TE's very well.

The bend but don't break strategy may be our best option. Let them kick field goals while we're putting up TD's. Just don't give up the home run plays.

One correction: The Chargers blew out the Chargers. That was pure self-immolation

irafreak 01-20-2025 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Peace Frog (Post 17925056)
Stay classy.

See there's no way you've been lurking on here as long as you claim and not understand that post...

TEX 01-20-2025 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by KSCHIEF (Post 17925133)
At some point Allen & the Bills are going to knock of Pat + Andy. I believe Allen is that talented and has historically stepped up in the playoffs and played some of his best football.

It's obviously possible that is Sunday... but I'm not sure it's very likely. Sunday is the Super Bowl, IMO. I can't see either NFC team hanging with the Bills or Chiefs. I'm ready for an Andy/Spags kitchen sink game and Patrick to play his cleanest game of the season. That and the home crowd are enough. Chiefs come out hot offensively and Buffalo keeps pace early, but fizzles in the end as the defense dials it up late.

Chiefs 30 Bills 23

Id like that also, but it's not who the Chiefs are this year. I just hope the Chiefs are close enough in the 4th quarter, to pull it out like they've done many times this season.

KCJake 01-20-2025 12:10 PM

The team that scores touchdowns in the redzone wins.

Hammock Parties 01-20-2025 12:15 PM

this is gonna slap hard if we win

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mr. tegu 01-20-2025 12:24 PM

I completely forgot about that botched deep ball to Worthy that should have been a walk in TD. They couldn’t cover him at all.

Gary Cooper 01-20-2025 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17925167)
Yeah - Tranquill's every bit the problem trying to spy Allen as Bolton is. He's not explosive at this stage of his career and can very easily be run over anyway. Chenal won't be a ton better because he doesn't have the lateral agility. Allen can pretty easily throw the brakes on and get around Leo.

The only guy we've had over the years with the size, speed, agility and aggression to really be a good matchup for Allen was Gay.

Everyone else is missing something.

Did Willie Gay spy Allen in prior meetings?

Chief Pagan 01-20-2025 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17925027)
No one noticed that Mahomes actually played left handed all year.

Bills are ****ed.

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Gary Cooper 01-20-2025 12:29 PM

I wish Mike Maslowski was still here. He would spy Allen and scare the shit out of him from running.

crispystl 01-20-2025 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 17924862)
I wouldn't say the Texans game was a bad offensive performance. They were a little rusty to start, but 23 points in 7 drives is pretty good. And like Chris Simms said, it kind of throws off the gameplan to start in the red zone.

3.3 points per drive. Scored on 5 of 7 drives vs a great defense that was built to exploit KC's weakness. The same effort probably translates to 30+ vs the Bills. Their defense isn't even close to Houston's level.


I was at the game and the weather was not conducive for throwing the ball all over the place and scoring a bunch of points. There were big huge gusts of Arctic winds every couple of minutes. I mean they would pierce through 8 layers of clothes like you were naked. I was much more cold at the Texans game than the dolphins playoff game last year. The dolphins game may have had a lower sustained consistent temp, but I don’t remember any wind gusts like that.


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ChiefsHawk 01-20-2025 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17925182)
When you spy, you’re sacrificing something somewhere else.

If you don’t have a guy that can do it well, then you aren’t generating enough of a benefit to overcome the negative.

I’m with you. I wouldn’t spy right away at least.

I'm sure I will get killed on this but I spy him with Hicks

mr. tegu 01-20-2025 12:39 PM

The Bills got luckier in that game than we have all year. On the final drive they literally did nothing to impact the Ravens or the favorable outcome they got. Absolutely nothing. Didn’t sack Lamar. Didn’t force third and longs or miracle completions. Didn’t pressure Lamar into bad throws. And didn’t guard Andrew’s or force a bad throw from Lamar on the conversion. They literally did nothing but repeatedly and relatively easily get beat but got a lucky break on a once a year drop at the worst time for the Ravens.

All of our “lucky” wins involved the Chiefs impacting the plays in some way and as such cannot simply be dismissed as luck.

Boxer_Chief 01-20-2025 12:41 PM

Third and 2 or 3 you have to know Allen is doing that stupid qb draw to the right side of the guard. Have to be ready for it. Killed us last time and killed the ravens yesterday.

Rainbarrel 01-20-2025 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Peace Frog (Post 17925392)
You may be right. Was worth a try.

Tree frogs change colors to blend in

Boxer_Chief 01-20-2025 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsHawk (Post 17925502)
I'm sure I will get killed on this but I spy him with Hicks

That’s what I told my dad last night discussing this game, spy with Hicks.

DRM08 01-20-2025 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 17925503)
The Bills got luckier in that game than we have all year. On the final drive they literally did nothing to impact the Ravens or the favorable outcome they got. Absolutely nothing. Didn’t sack Lamar. Didn’t force third and longs or miracle completions. Didn’t pressure Lamar into bad throws. And didn’t guard Andrew’s or force a bad throw from Lamar on the conversion. They literally did nothing but repeatedly and relatively easily get beat but got a lucky break on a once a year drop at the worst time for the Ravens.

All of our “lucky” wins involved the Chiefs impacting the plays in some way and as such cannot simply be dismissed as luck.

Buffalo win yesterday was similar to their win against New England last month. They had a 17 point swing on turnovers and won the Patriots game by 3 points. New England even gave them 7 points on the dumbest backwards pass mistake you will ever see. Buffalo defense is very good at taking advantage of mistakes by the opponents. Turnovers by the Buffalo Defense are a major part of Buffalo’s success this season, despite the claims that Josh Allen does everything by himself.

Wisconsin_Chief 01-20-2025 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsHawk (Post 17925502)
I'm sure I will get killed on this but I spy him with Hicks

Not sure why you'd get killed, he seems like as good of candidate as any.

6'2, 215, ran a 4.49 in the 40. Seems like a good idea, wonder if he's under consideration.

smithandrew051 01-20-2025 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsHawk (Post 17925502)
I'm sure I will get killed on this but I spy him with Hicks

I don’t hate it

Sofa King 01-20-2025 12:50 PM

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CaptainMorgan 01-20-2025 12:51 PM

The Bills D has lived on turnovers. Plus 24 and next closest is plus 16. Chiefs were plus 6 I believe? That’s a wild margin for the Bills to lead the whole league. Ravens never punted and if they simply take care of the ball they’re winning that game (same for Detroit). Have to imagine that Andy and Co. will be preaching ball security and that if you’re going for YAC, watch for the punch outs and get down if there isn’t much YAC there.

People have been critical of Mahomes and the passing offense this past weekend, but I think this team is understanding their matchups and playing on a higher level. Only way the Texans were winning that game was if there were turnovers by the Chiefs. How best for them to get turnovers? Their ends and their CB duo. So what did the Chiefs do? Heavily targeted TE, ran the ball. Didn’t really give the CBs or the ends a chance to wreck the game. Mahomes was taking the sack if it was risky. They knew the defense wouldn’t let up many points (which was true) and so just needed to not put them on short fields or give up points on offence. This was more important than running the score up by taking chances and opening the door to the turnovers.

Against Buffalo the risk assessment is different. They don’t have those ends or those corners and their offence is likely to have more success that the Texans, so I think we’ll see more aggressive offence because 1) we’re gonna need it and 2) we have the plus matchups to do it with less downside risk than was there against the Texans.

My one concern is that we overuse Pacheco instead of Kareem. Kareem’s vision as a runner is far superior. He rarely takes loses and usually gets more yards than he should. A 2nd and 10 with Pacheco is a 2nd and 7 with Hunt. 3rd and 7 with Pacheco is a 3rd and 3 with Hunt. That makes a big difference. I’d love to see 2 series Hunt, 1 for Pacheco type rotation. In the second half it’ll pay dividends and Pacheco can do what he does best which is to hit a big one.

ChiefsCountry 01-20-2025 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 17925534)
This is nuts

Nobody gives a shit about regular season games

PatMahomesIsGod 01-20-2025 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Peace Frog (Post 17925056)
Stay classy.

We haze each other here. Opposing fans get it worse.

If you’re looking for a kumbaya circle jerk, move on.

Mr. Plow 01-20-2025 01:33 PM

Mission Accomplished. Well done gentlemen.



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Logic
I have no doubt that that thread is full of delusional posts and laughable homer takes, but...

You could not pay me any amount of money to intentionally spend even a second of time on Chiefs Planet.

Truly the most toxic and miserable hellscape on earth.

Hammock Parties 01-20-2025 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17925417)

I am definitely buying this if we win.

It has the Bills on it.

It has '20.

It has '24.

It's a shirt for TWO AFC Championships. ROFL


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