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Chris Meck 03-09-2025 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17993469)
When did Veach "hint" at this?

If anything, he hinted at a defense heavy draft.

This is CP. We see what we want to see, and read what we want to be true into any and everything.

JPH83 03-09-2025 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by nychief (Post 17993471)
Honestly... i'd be happiest with Jaylon Moore of the three available FA LTs. He has the most upside and is acceding and is a good pass blocker. I think it would be a shrewd Veach move...

That being said, I have no f'n idea what is going to happen over there.

I'm the same, he's been my preference throughout. Although sounds like he'll cost a fair wedge now. But honestly, if they end up just getting DJ back...I can live with it, if it gives us flexibility in the draft.

JPH83 03-09-2025 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17993489)
The KCSN guys seem to be dreading the idea of the Chiefs signing a LT and prefer to draft one at 31.

I don't get it at all.

Why would you prefer to put yourself in a position that forces you to take a LT at 31? This draft class is just like the free agency class. There are more options than people think, but not a lot of value.

The best way to get value is overpay for a little at LT and then get value in the draft on the DL and at RB.

I think I agree, vet insurance at LT is absolutely necessary - to allow BPA in a draft where we REALLY need to hit, to enable a LT prospect to redshirt if necessary, and to provide a higher floor than last year. I don't think I want Cam Robinson on an expensive multi-year contract unless we can bail after, say, 2, but we need someone, even if that's DJ back.

Rausch 03-09-2025 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 17993561)
I think I agree, vet insurance at LT is absolutely necessary - to allow BPA in a draft where we REALLY need to hit, to enable a LT prospect to redshirt if necessary, and to provide a higher floor than last year. I don't think I want Cam Robinson on an expensive multi-year contract unless we can bail after, say, 2, but we need someone, even if that's DJ back.

DJ has already indicated he signed last season for this year. He fully expects to be back.

In a perfect world he's got plenty of competition and is a vet swing/BU.

TRR 03-09-2025 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17993522)
I'd guess Dan Moore signing is announced at the start of FA.

I find it amazingly hard to believe that KC watched Mike Danna and FAU blow past Turnstile Dan in week 17, and said…that’s our guy.

Titty Meat 03-09-2025 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by nychief (Post 17993490)
"gauge" is doing somw heavy lifting here.

You posted the same comment in the chiefs reddit

Titty Meat 03-09-2025 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17993522)
I'd guess Dan Moore signing is announced at the start of FA.

Wrong Moore

Hoover 03-09-2025 06:23 PM

Veach is going to agree to a contract for a LT tomorrow, which then allows him to go to the Bank of Mahomes for the exact amount. Wonder if Mahomes would be like, hey Bart, here's a little extra for my my boy Justin Reed.

nychief 03-09-2025 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 17993755)
You posted the same comment in the chiefs reddit

Oddly, not on chiefs Reddit. But whoever is…is a genius.

DJ's left nut 03-10-2025 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17993489)
The KCSN guys seem to be dreading the idea of the Chiefs signing a LT and prefer to draft one at 31.

I don't get it at all.

Why would you prefer to put yourself in a position that forces you to take a LT at 31? This draft class is just like the free agency class. There are more options than people think, but not a lot of value.

The best way to get value is overpay for a little at LT and then get value in the draft on the DL and at RB.

Those guys had a hard-on for taking Donovan Jackson in the 1st round.

They've lost the plot.

DJ's left nut 03-10-2025 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 17993457)
Christ. I like the idea of Jaylon Moore, but for a guy who's barely had 250 snaps a year that price sounds absurd.

Structure would mean a TON.

I mean if you get Moore on a deal that essentially pays him, say, $20 million over the first 2 seasons and then $40 million over the following 2 seasons, you're essentially signing him for a 2 year deal with team options if he proves to be a credible LT.

You take a little bit of risk in those first 2 seasons at $10 million/season, but it's not horrifying.

And in the end, the numbers settle out as "mid-teens" over the 4 years. But if he plays out those 4 years, that mid-teen figure will be a steal.

You're risking a bit in the first couple seasons for a lot of value baked into the deal in the last 2.

Now maybe he does much much better than that. But that's a way that sort of contract could be structured to hit figures that are insane on their face but not too bad when you drill them down.

smithandrew051 03-10-2025 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17994276)
Structure would mean a TON.

I mean if you get Moore on a deal that essentially pays him, say, $20 million over the first 2 seasons and then $40 million over the following 2 seasons, you're essentially signing him for a 2 year deal with team options if he proves to be a credible LT.

You take a little bit of risk in those first 2 seasons at $10 million/season, but it's not horrifying.

And in the end, the numbers settle out as "mid-teens" over the 4 years. But if he plays out those 4 years, that mid-teen figure will be a steal.

You're risking a bit in the first couple seasons for a lot of value baked into the deal in the last 2.

Now maybe he does much much better than that. But that's a way that sort of contract could be structured to hit figures that are insane on their face but not too bad when you drill them down.

Jaylon Moore seems like the only guy available who has any chance of outplaying his contract. Almost every other option has a ceiling of “expensive but good enough to get by”.

saphojunkie 03-10-2025 09:51 AM

ESPN nextgen stats has Dan Moore as the #11 tackle in the league in terms of pass block win rate at 93%.

That's one spot higher than Ronnie Stanley, FWIW.


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